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  1. Oeste

    Jesus is not God

    Hi DNB: "God sacrificing Himself, to Himself" would, was, and is an effective argument against Modalistic Monarchianism, such as Sebellianism or Oneness Pentecostalism. I don't see how such arguments would apply to the detriment of the Trinity doctrine, unless they're applied mistakenly. This...
  2. Oeste

    Jesus is not God

    I’ve missed you too, Soapy. I realize this is the highest form of praise you can muster for a Trinitarian, and I feel honored to receive it. I also understand why we might appear as Sauron to a believer in Adoptionist heresies. After all, early Christians were considered Godless atheists as...
  3. Oeste

    Thank you for the winner emoji, Jimb. I find your posts thoughtful, insightful and a pleasure to...

    Thank you for the winner emoji, Jimb. I find your posts thoughtful, insightful and a pleasure to read. Be blessed.
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  4. Oeste

    Jesus is not God

    Agreed. Soapy tries too hard to make a point sometime, apparently leading him to lump the eating of sausage and ignorance into a mashup that, in his mind, "leads to public embarrassment later on". So you say. What about the bible? What does it say?? God is Spirit, and His worshipers must...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Then there is no problem. Mary did not arrive by herself, as she had either 2 or 3 witnesses with her and an empty tomb. And while you don't believe Paul, at least believe Matthew, and others who write by the grace of the Holy Spirit. Your post sound like something taken directly from the...
  6. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Okay, let's read Genesis 2:1-3 in context, once again: 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it...
  7. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Sorry, but you are creating your own church history from whole cloth. Nothing about this is true. Any reading of from our early second and third century historians show otherwise. Sunday worship flowed directly from the first century Christians up to and including the present day. The only...
  8. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Well, there you have it, 2000 year in the making. Look at what it DOES say: The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark... Now look at what it DOESN'T say: The seventh day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene late, when it was yet dark... And just to confirm...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Nah. Christians met on the first day of the week long before Constantine. This can be confirmed by a simple study of scripture and church history, @2ndpillar. As Emperor and secular ruler, he would be perfectly within his right to declare anything he wanted. The fact is, Christians follow...
  10. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    No, no, NO! :facepalm: As @metis pointed out to you previously, the Roman Catholic Church was not in existence in the 1st or 2nd Century! The Roman Catholic Church, like many other churches, claims apostolic succession, so OF COURSE some will claim it was “they” who changed (not “abolished”)...
  11. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    1. Your assertion, that "...the 10 commandments has now been abolished..." is a premise without basis. No one has "abolished" the Sabbath commandment for you. As the Christians posting on this board have told you, time and time again, you are FREE to celebrate, at least in this country, ANY...
  12. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Quite right! They were to "REMEMBER" the Sabbath God gave them a few weeks earlier, at Exodus 16:23-30. However, they did not and could not "REMEMBER" a 7th Day Sabbath prior to this because they didn't have one. The reason the Jews received a 7th Day Sabbath was because they were brought...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Many wonder how Adventists can hold to keeping Law, specifically why they hold the "4th" Commandment as compulsory for Christians. As stated earlier, Ellen White, confounder of the Adventist movement, had a series of approximately 2,000 visions which heavily influenced how Adventists view...
  14. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    No, my "unanswered question" is simply still "unanswered". It's very simple and not that complicated. No, it would apply to you but not apply to me or the majority of Christians. It applies to you because you distinctly and rather unequivocally place yourself under the Jewish Sabbath...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I did not see this before but I consider it highly objectional, and a violation of RF's rules of conduct. Ad hominem attacks are not sanctioned or permitted, and one of the reasons I like posting here, as opposed to some other forums is the fact that this forum is moderated. Please...attack...
  16. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I am once again REPEATING our prior conversation (see above), much like I and many other Christians have had to do before. Why? Because of your response. Here it is: Your ORIGINAL argument stated "The body of Christ" in Romans 7 is not in reference to the Church here...." But your subsequent...
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    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    This is another response which you mistook for an answer: Here you did quite well 3rdAngel! You come out gangbusters, asking the right questions, but not giving us an answer to any of them! Let's go through it: Who labored during the creation week was it God or man? Well that would...
  18. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Nothing in either of these links "proves" any such thing at all as has already been demonstrated in #3064, #3074, and #3076. Scripture shows your understand of Romans 7 is not biblical. I agree with you totally. I've noticed other Christians on this forum have had to do the same. You confuse...
  19. Oeste

    Thank you for the winner frubal at Where is the Commandment that say God's 4th Commandment is...

    Thank you for the winner frubal at Where is the Commandment that say God's 4th Commandment is abolished? :)
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  20. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Have a great New Years everybody! I pray 2024 will be a good year for all. I have a full day tomorrow (at work, right after church and lunch unfortunately) but will get back as soon as I can. ~ Oeste
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