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  1. Hockeycowboy

    The Trinity - What on Earth is it?

    It means that someone gave Jesus life: a son always has a father. In this situation, God was / is his Father. If you read John 17 - and numerous other places, Jesus calls God his Father. In the same sense that Adam is called “son of God”.. Luke 3:38.
  2. oldbadger

    The Trinity - What on Earth is it?

    Wrong. Read the first verse of the Gospel of Mark, which claims that Jesus is 'The Son of God'. Admittedly that phrase got popped in to G-Mark later on. I have read that this line had to be Mother Mary's line, obviously quite different to Matthew's list Jesus's ancestors through Joseph. In...
  3. soulsurvivor

    The Trinity - What on Earth is it?

    Actually, among the four Gospels, only Luke calls Jesus the Son of God. In fact, in Luke 3:38, he clarifies to say that this is according to his ancestry through Adam. Luke 23:38 The Ancestors of Jesus 23Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the...
  4. amazing grace

    Proof of Pre-Existence

    I agree that God's "first" Son was Adam. AND it is true that Jesus was the only begotten Son of God thus making him God's "firstborn" Son. (Luke 2:7) In most cases when "firstborn" is used, it literally refers to the one born first (some examples: Gen. 4:4, 27:32, 35:23; Ex. 6:14, 12:12; Num...
  5. Soapy

    Proof of Pre-Existence

    The word, ‘Firstborn’ was chosen to resemble ‘First Born’ for the reason of confusion. It’s very easy to write ‘Firstborn’ when the context is ‘First Born’… and vice versa. The result is confusion and a change in meaning which benefits only those who seek trinity ideology. Jesus is SECOND ‘Son...
  6. Soapy

    Proof of Pre-Existence

    I see you SEPARATED the single word, ‘FIRSTBORN’ into two words and then commented on one of them —- who is inventing a relationship that doesn’t exist????? The ‘FIRST BORN’ child is (initially, at least) the greatest love of the Father…. (FIRSTBORN). This has been demonstrated in scriptures...
  7. Brian2

    Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

    I was sinless as a baby but that means nothing. We have all fallen short of the glory of God, our righteousness is like filthy rags. Angels have done what is wrong also. But we are talking about humans here. The Son was equal (Phil 2) and did not cling to that but became a man, a servant. It...
  8. Soapy

    Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

    No Brian2, Jesus is not the only man who has been perfectly sinless. Adam, before he sinned, was perfectly Sinless…..! And he too, was called ‘SON OF GOD’ (Luke 3:38). However, AFTER Adam sinned, yes, Jesus is NOW the only man who has been completely sinless… hence he, and hd alone of those of...
  9. loverofhumanity

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    Yes I found that also. Christ is God’s Spokes person but is not God in essence. Like a mirror reflecting the sun. We say the sun is in the mirror but the sun itself does not descend into the mirror. The mirror and the sun are separate entities.
  10. B

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    John 14 actually ends up showing an opposing. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+14&version=NIV 28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29 I have told...
  11. Soapy

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    No, ‘I and the Father are one IN AGREEMENT with each other’. There is no Science, no Maths, no Sensibility… in one thing being in subjection to another yet the two are EQUAL. Do you never wonder that it is never said that ‘The Father is equal to the Son’? The reason is that it would imply...
  12. Brian2

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    It is that Jesus has the same nature as His Father, their natures are equal. (see Heb 1:3 ) A created son or adopted son of God has not the same nature as his Father. We can also see that Jesus has the same nature as His Father by seeing that Jesus is the begotten Son of God, begotten in Mary...
  13. Colt

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    A Son of God can be divine and subordinate. Jesus was a miraculous individual, mysterious and cryptic! He said a lot while saying very little about his origins and true office. After returning to heaven a great deal of speculation and conjecture occurred.
  14. B

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    conscious and capable. Same framework to enable equality of mankind.
  15. W

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    In a father and son relationship, both their roles evolve with time. It does not remain dad and a baby. After a many decades of work, the father is no longer in his prime, as the son matures and starts to enter his prime. The Father advances to the next stage, such as wisdom, always one step...
  16. M

    “The Son is equal to his Father”

    Thank you for this question. I came across this forum because I have been trying to research the ancient Hebrew relationship between Father and son to reconcile this equality idea as well. I believe the father gave the son authority but they are not "equal". But that God is indeed above Yeshua...
  17. Hockeycowboy

    How can you be a True Christian™ if you don't take the Eden story literally?

    From what I’ve been taught through an in-depth study of the Bible, I think You’re exactly right…. Jesus’ sacrifice is a ransom (Matthew 20:28). Through his sacrifice, Jesus “bought back” what Adam lost for himself & his descendants: the prospect of eternal life. It’s not for nothing that the...
  18. Trailblazer

    Where are the Dead?

    Here is what I believe about Adam and how that is related to Jesus' cross sacrifice. As a Baha'i, I do not believe in the Adam and Eve were real people who existed. I do not believe that there was a literal garden with a tree and a snake and two people who ate a fruit from a tree. Rather, I...
  19. Hockeycowboy

    Where are the Dead?

    Hello Trailblazer, hope you are well. Actually, as JW’s we understand the Scriptures to be as straightforward as “go to bed”, or “take out the garbage.” Even tho many of the events were described poetically, that doesn’t mean the incidents were simply metaphorical or allegories. Certainly just...
  20. Soapy

    ‘Jesus was WITH GOD’ therefore Jesus WAS GOD?

    Well, since Jesus was taught BY GOD, his spiritual Father, I would expect that Jesus’ teaching. and deeds carried the full authority of God. I mean, even Jesus, himself, said: ‘I can only do what I first see the Father do’ ‘The things I say are not my words but those of [God, the Father] who...
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