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Fox news: Trump will be reinstated to Twitter

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Elon Musk says Trump will be reinstated to Twitter after more than 15 million users voted in poll

I don't know much about this yet, this article just kind of popped up in my feed.

What really surprised me is that, apparently, the majority of users voted "yes" on reinstating Trump's account. But if it was mostly Elon Musk followers that did, like if the poll question was asked on Elon Musk's account, it surprises me less.

This is what I retained: 15 million people had nothing more productive to do than answer that poll.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
While the company may go down the drain, the former owners got more that it was worth. That's capitalism for you.

That's often the case with hostile takeovers, as the former execs invariably get golden parachutes. It sucks for the workers and end users who might have enjoyed some benefit or utility from the product. It may make some people reluctant to invest any real time or energy into something that may self-destruct and fall apart in a few years.

The net value of social media has diminished because of this. Anyone with a large enough bag of money could do the same thing to Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, OnlyFans, etc.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Love him or hate him Trump had more media attention than anyone history. Without Trump, many Left Wing Outlets lost business. The NYT and CNN both lived off Trump. I expect Trump will draw people from both sides of the isle to Twitter, since Trump knows how to put on a show. He has mad people skills in different ways.

There is also Truth Social which is the company Trump helped to form. He may use Twitter during the day and have Truth Social be the place for the after party. Trump likes people and will try to spread himself around.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Whenever I listen to this man, I think he is blessed by God. I don't want to sound like someone excessively patronizing him, but he sounds like a man who succeeded thanks to his passion and commitment.
Unlike other tycoons, obsessed with a self-destructive profit maximization that eventually leads them to their demise. I have seen them.

So no material things make him take decisions. But the thirst for justice and the desire to re-establish equity (the law id equal for all).
You don't need to be a theist (he is not) to behave as a Christian should, in my humble opinion.

This is the man who doesn't pay the construction workers who work on his properties, daring them to sue him because he has deep pockets. Some guy you worship.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
If they were those advertisers who used to demand the thought police on Twitter (that is gagging the anti-mainstream tweets), well...Twitter has definitely improved, then. ;)
I think its a win for freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech refers to government restrictions. Would you tolerate someone walking into your house and telling your kids to drink bleach for health benefits? Who cares if it's your house, because free speech.
Besides, there are social media platforms that allow bigotry and disinformation, so those who like to spread such material have alternative options.
Companies have a right to quality control their own services, and those who don't like it can go elsewhere. That's how capitalism works.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Twitter is quickly becoming far less of a left wing echo chamber. Good riddance. Maybe Elon can take over Religious Forums next.

The fact that someone with views like yours is here at all proves that RF is not the echo chamber you insinuate it is. Most people who have an empathetic and healthy perspective on the world just simply don't share your far-right politics.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Freedom of speech refers to government restrictions. Would you tolerate someone walking into your house and telling your kids to drink bleach for health benefits? Who cares if it's your house, because free speech.
Besides, there are social media platforms that allow bigotry and disinformation, so those who like to spread such material have alternative options.
Companies have a right to quality control their own services, and those who don't like it can go elsewhere. That's how capitalism works.
Because an internet service provider is a public virtual space, even if it's privately owned.
A house is a private space, that's a different thing.
In my country a shopkeeper or a shop proprietor cannot reject a customer: it's illegal.
They cannot refuse to sell something to someone.
Because even if the shop, the store is private property, it deals with a public space, and the consumers or users are to be protected. :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Twitter is quickly becoming far less of a left wing echo chamber. Good riddance. Maybe Elon can take over Religious Forums next.
What's wrong with RF being a left wing echo
chamber anyway? So long as alternative views
are allowed, lefties' views are grist for your mill.
BTW, tolerance here for others is better than it
once was.
 
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Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Whenever I listen to this man, I think he is blessed by God. I don't want to sound like someone excessively patronizing him, but he sounds like a man who succeeded thanks to his passion and commitment.
Unlike other tycoons, obsessed with a self-destructive profit maximization that eventually leads them to their demise. I have seen them.

So no material things make him take decisions. But the thirst for justice and the desire to re-establish equity (the law id equal for all).
You don't need to be a theist (he is not) to behave as a Christian should, in my humble opinion.
What kind of God approves of a man who makes fun of people and puts profit over people?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
What's wrong with RF being a left wing echo
chamber anyway? So long as alternative views
are allowed, this is grist for your mill.
BTW, tolerance here for others is better than it
once was.

Some people who complain about RF being an echo chamber, whether a supposedly left-wing one or otherwise, probably haven't spent much time suffering through actual echo chambers like specific platforms geared toward a single religion or some subreddits where the toxic hivemind downvotes any disagreement into oblivion.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Because an internet service provider is a public virtual space, even if it's privately owned.
A house is a private space, that's a different thing.
In my country a shopkeeper or a shop proprietor cannot reject a customer: it's illegal.
They cannot refuse to sell something to someone.
Because even if the shop, the store is private property, it deals with a public space, and the consumers or users are to be protected. :)
So you would be okay if someone ran into your church during service while screaming "Hail Satan!"? Or, if you owned a restaurant, would you allow a customer to scream slurs and obscenities at other customers and your employees?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So you would be okay if someone ran into your church during service while screaming "Hail Satan!"? Or, if you owned a restaurant, would you allow a customer to scream slurs and obscenities at other customers and your employees?
It turns out Trump always behaved correctly on Twitter.
His account had been removed by a previous politicized management, probably.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
My point is not that previous Twitter moderation was good. It was inconsistent and lack transparency.

(Highlighting mine.)

How so? I'm not very familiar with how it was aside from the policies that banned COVID misinformation, hate speech, etc., which I generally found both responsible and, as we can now see, good for business and membership retention.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some people who complain about RF being an echo chamber, whether a supposedly left-wing one or otherwise, probably haven't spent much time suffering through actual echo chambers like specific platforms geared toward a single religion or some subreddits where the toxic hivemind downvotes any disagreement into oblivion.
One should always strive for a sense of proportion.
Enjoying additional venues is useful.
 
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