DNB
Christian
Again, that type of attraction is not idolatry. Idols were worshipped as providing the harvest, health and prosperity to those who prayed to them accordingly. Being shallow and pretentious is not idolatry, just misguided.
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Idolatry and Christianity
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Except that once you get away from European influence, there are as many gods, as many religions, as you could wish ─ leaving aside the differences between the Jewish God, the Christian triune God and the Islamic God, and the point that being triune is incoherent, and only made coherent if there are three gods, not one, you can take your pick of the divine beings of the Hindu pantheon, the theolatrous schools within Buddhism, the spirits and ancestors of Shinto, the Celestians of Chinese religion, and who knows how much more.
If God doesn't like the idea of other gods, what doesn't [he] do something about it ─ other than mutter darkly, that is.
I'm not sure what you mean by European influence here, as Europe has had and still has polytheistic and non-Abrahamic groups with their own philosophies and theologies. Especially now in Europe where atheism seems to be the default for many. Or at least, they're not Christians by default anymore. I think 'European influence' could just as easily be Greek Pagan philosophy and religion, for example.
Sorry that was unclear ─ I was thinking of European Christianity historically colonizing Africa, the Americas and elsewhere. And the Hindu-Buddhist influence in the sub-continent and east.
There was an old God, then there was a new God made of gold and in the shape of a calf. People made up stories about the calf's desires. God (the older one) had ordered humans to be peaceful (no wars, no drinking, no drugs). Abandoning God, the United States attacked Iraq, Afghanistan, tried to attack Niger (google: Wilson, Plame, yellow cake). When we worship God, we do what God says. When we abandon God, and worship idols or follow human logic, we defy God.
Symbols of religion are supposed to remind us of God's stories, and are not supposed to be idolized. Yet many worship Christ as if he is God, and worship crosses and likenesses of Christ (different than Jesus), and worship likenesses of Jesus.
God asked Cain (son of Adam and Eve) where his brother Abel is, and Cain asked God "am I my brother's keeper?" Meaning that he doesn't keep tabs on his movement (apathetic).
Reversing that bible quote might involve proselytisation.
I haven't found a religion yet that didn't have some hypocrisy in it.
LactoseIntolerant
Member
Why are there atheist churches? Isn't hypocritical for an atheist to ridicule theism but embrace the outward manifestation of it?
that is a question for another thread.
LactoseIntolerant
Member
Actually, it is the answer to this thread.
a dualist would claim that. jesus never said to anyone that you have to worship him to get into heaven but many christians do so even tell others to follow blindly, just believe and worship jesus as god.
jesus didn't. a certain man had two sons. he asked both to go work in the fields. one said yes and didn't. one said no and did. which one did
so it isn't the one who believes and doesn't but the one who does not necessarily believes and does the work.
matthew 7:21
LactoseIntolerant
Member
An atheist would claim that it is not a religion, but lo and behold they have a manifesto to which to adhere. An atheist would claim that there is no objective morality, but child killers are immoral. IMO The most authentic form of atheism is "Do as thou wilt", as their principle is being unprincipled.
The world is unprincipled, as with their institutions. There are dimensions to this life that they have prioritized which makes the compromises you see. You see the hypocrisy in theists, but the lack of principle is society wide. So why are you pointing it out? You should tidy your house before you change the world.
this thread isn't about atheism. it's about idolatry and christian's who ignore it and idolize
LactoseIntolerant
Member
I see. Then as it is said "No pearls before swine". Good day.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Science told science that science a human choice is a liar.
Humans existed first. Natural.
Science a human practice was chosen.
Science said I know how God created you.
Science of God by conscious spiritual realised status about God by concept said you lie.
Light stays voided in the heavens as God and womb.
G O D was explained how the spirit in the heavens as gases dealt with radiation effect of light in heavens above our head.
We live in water where the flood of water rained down from heavens remains. We live beneath water.
The status to be taught.
The movement of the heavenly gas spirit in the womb void is on the face of the great deep. It is movement spiral O held fixed motion.
O spirals by G flow so . Dot radiation first God by - moves to the side. Falls as G motion the God fall back into O. O splits by DD then DD becomes OO.
Notice how God not man owned side movement in heavens.
God remains in its owned heavens. We always said God was above us only in heavens.
Men in science theories God made it fall out from being God the state that kept ground life in water safe.
As we owned no burning gas.
What Satanists never told you as scientists they tried to copy the movement of a radiation point removal of causes of a gas burning atmosphere.
Gods flow movement spiritually protected life beneath water as owned bio forms by exact presence natural bodies.
Humans existed first. Natural.
Science a human practice was chosen.
Science said I know how God created you.
Science of God by conscious spiritual realised status about God by concept said you lie.
Light stays voided in the heavens as God and womb.
G O D was explained how the spirit in the heavens as gases dealt with radiation effect of light in heavens above our head.
We live in water where the flood of water rained down from heavens remains. We live beneath water.
The status to be taught.
The movement of the heavenly gas spirit in the womb void is on the face of the great deep. It is movement spiral O held fixed motion.
O spirals by G flow so . Dot radiation first God by - moves to the side. Falls as G motion the God fall back into O. O splits by DD then DD becomes OO.
Notice how God not man owned side movement in heavens.
God remains in its owned heavens. We always said God was above us only in heavens.
Men in science theories God made it fall out from being God the state that kept ground life in water safe.
As we owned no burning gas.
What Satanists never told you as scientists they tried to copy the movement of a radiation point removal of causes of a gas burning atmosphere.
Gods flow movement spiritually protected life beneath water as owned bio forms by exact presence natural bodies.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
The idol of men is science thesis machine.
Man said human to human.
Man at his side woman.
Man then theoried science built machine. Man now had machine at his side not life continuance.
Man proved man lies as he built machine robot to have human sex.
Human sex as human conscious advice is to produce human babies.
Sex owned one cause only.
Science said it could control just sex and not babies conceived.
Sex by machine inherited science thesis is the sin of man.
Human sex is natural. Human man is not his idol.
So then he preaches idolise your natural life only as you sacrificed it.
Yet his first idol was the machine of his man creation.
Man said human to human.
Man at his side woman.
Man then theoried science built machine. Man now had machine at his side not life continuance.
Man proved man lies as he built machine robot to have human sex.
Human sex as human conscious advice is to produce human babies.
Sex owned one cause only.
Science said it could control just sex and not babies conceived.
Sex by machine inherited science thesis is the sin of man.
Human sex is natural. Human man is not his idol.
So then he preaches idolise your natural life only as you sacrificed it.
Yet his first idol was the machine of his man creation.
DNB
Christian
For crying out loud, no it's not! Anthropolatry is worshipping a man as divine, as something all powerful. Admiring or envying one another may be misguided, but it's not definitionally idolatry.
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rational experiences
Veteran Member
Father's memories of all men human relating all man's life experiences is what men said is my over conscious.
Human mind owned advices shared.
Like a natural recorded data in life not machine program. As we hear it.
Modern science owns various orders of science.
Medical science is biology.
Holy as medical.
Occult theists looking back into the past is about dead things abuse medical.science biological wisdom.
Science said humans using old male female occult scientific thesis were dangerous. Said the practice had to.be stopped.
Reason medical human biological human science spoke on behalf of humans existing as humans.. is not any thesis.
DNA human owned shows them human DNA damage. Evidence is seen directly owned in natural light life support.
Occult old God science male female terms spoke about dark radiation or no light conditions which living life does not own rationally.
Why modern science was adamant as out ruling by human taught awareness false scientific literature as a rational life scientist.
Yet also has to honour his own destroyer department the conversion sciences. And not put his science place where it never belonged...natural life. Medical human conditions.
Reason says if men place human DNA advice as if human DNA existed by itself just as DNA advices are human liars.
Human mind owned advices shared.
Like a natural recorded data in life not machine program. As we hear it.
Modern science owns various orders of science.
Medical science is biology.
Holy as medical.
Occult theists looking back into the past is about dead things abuse medical.science biological wisdom.
Science said humans using old male female occult scientific thesis were dangerous. Said the practice had to.be stopped.
Reason medical human biological human science spoke on behalf of humans existing as humans.. is not any thesis.
DNA human owned shows them human DNA damage. Evidence is seen directly owned in natural light life support.
Occult old God science male female terms spoke about dark radiation or no light conditions which living life does not own rationally.
Why modern science was adamant as out ruling by human taught awareness false scientific literature as a rational life scientist.
Yet also has to honour his own destroyer department the conversion sciences. And not put his science place where it never belonged...natural life. Medical human conditions.
Reason says if men place human DNA advice as if human DNA existed by itself just as DNA advices are human liars.
idolizing anything is a form of idolatry
Easton's Bible Dictionary
Idolatry
Image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object. Paul describes the origin of idolatry in Romans 1:21-25- men forsook God, and sank into ignorance and moral corruption (1:28).
King James Bible Dictionary - Reference List - Idolatries
an instance of idolatry
james 2:1-6
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