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Mainstream Religion Has Failed The People:

iris89

Active Member
Hi Everyone

The reason for so much deviant sex and other types of sin is that those who are supposed to set the example are the corrupt ones. They use scare tactics not to really get sinners to stop sinning but to get more money from them. However one can NOT buy God's (YHWH's) favor as was pointed out by Martin Luther with respect indulgences. Now here is something to show how corrupt these who should set the example but do not have become.

Mainstream Religion Is Clueless On Bible Requirements And Confused:

Mainstream traditional religion is truly clueless with respect Bible requirements and what God (YHWH) requires. This may sound a little harsh, but will be shortly proved; but first a few scriptures from the Bible to show the requirements of God's (YHWH's) word and then it shall be shown that they are indeed clueless:

1 Thessalonians 4:1-6, "1 Finally then, brethren, we beseech and exhort you in the Lord Jesus, that, as ye received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, even as ye do walk, --that ye abound more and more. 2 For ye know what charge we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, [even] your sanctification, that ye abstain from fornication; 4 that each one of you know how to possess himself of his own vessel in sanctification and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust, even as the Gentiles who know not God; 6 that no man transgress, and wrong his brother in the matter: because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as also we forewarned you and testified." (American Standard Version; ASV).

Jude 7, "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire." (New American Standard Bible: NASB).

1 Corinthians 6:9, "Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men," (ASV)

Romans 1:25-28, "for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due. 28 And even as they refused to have God in [their] knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;" (ASV)

2 Peter 2:10-15, "but chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of defilement, and despise dominion. Daring, self-willed, they tremble not to rail at dignities: 11 whereas angels, though greater in might and power, bring not a railing judgment against them before the Lord. 12 But these, as creatures without reason, born mere animals to be taken and destroyed, railing in matters whereof they are ignorant, shall in their destroying surely be destroyed, 13 suffering wrong as the hire of wrong-doing; [men] that count it pleasure to revel in the day-time, spots and blemishes, revelling in their deceivings while they feast with you; 14 having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; enticing unstedfast souls; having a heart exercised in covetousness; children of cursing; 15 forsaking the right way, they went astray, having followed the way of Balaam the [son] of Beor, who loved the hire of wrong-doing;" (ASV)

The word of God (YHWH) is clear with walking after the flesh in lust of defilement and deviant sexual conduct, but mainstream religion is confused and blinded for the most part on this issue in keeping with 2 Corinthians 4:4, "in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn [upon them]" (ASV). Now some may take strong exception to this statement, but let's look at the facts one example of which was recorded in the 'Orlando Sentinel,' of 11/18/2003 showing this gross confusion on the part of mainstream religion:

"Russian Orthodox Church cuts ties over gay bishop' Moscow-The Russian Orthodox Church announced Monday that it is suspending ties with the Episcopal Church USA, over its consecration of an openly gay bishop, saying homosexuality is a sin and that it 'cannot condone the perversion of human nature. Homosexual sexual contact has always been considered a grave sin by the Christian Church,' the Russian Orthodox Church's Moscow Partiarchate said in a statement posted on its Web site." [Orlando Sentinel-leading Florida newspaper, 11/18/2003].

Obviously this shows that mainstream religion is in confusion with respect the clearly stated requirements of God's (YHWH's) word, and definitely blinded to its righteous requirements. Now this is not just one isolated case or anomaly, but many mainstream religions at present are groping with the question of allowing homosexuals be ministers, priest, and church officials, etc. Some mainstream religions are even considering whether they should permit marriage of him to him or her to her in gross disregard of God's (YHWH's) word, the Bible. This is in gross disregard to God's (YHWH's) stated word at Genesis 2:24, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (ASV); And Ephesians 5:31, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (ASV).

Of course, mainstream religion is grossly confused even about God's (YHWH's) requirements for a bishop or church official as shown vividly in the Orlando Sentinel article, but the Bible is clear about these requirements at 1 Timothy 3:2, "The bishop therefore must be without reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, orderly, given to hospitality, apt to teach;" (ASV), note, it says of one wife and not of one man.

While mainstream religion has been blinded with respect the requirements of God's (YHWH's) word and is in gross confusion; the Monotheistic Bible is the Standard Religions experience no such confusion. The Monotheistic Bible is the Standard Religions know the Bible is the Standard and hence conform to it so questions such as consecrating knowingly gay bishops, ministers, and church officials never even is contemplated nor does it ever come up in their midst.

Now, why do many speak evil of the Monotheistic Bible is the Standard Religions? Could be as Matthew 12:34 states, "Ye offspring of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh." (ASV); or as 2 Peter 2:12 states, "having your behavior seemly among the Gentiles; that, wherein they speak against you as evil-doers, they may by your good works, which they behold, glorify God in the day of visitation." (ASV); but let not an evil saying spring forth from you per 1 Peter 3:10, "For, He that would love life, And see good days, Let him refrain his tongue from evil, And his lips that they speak no guile:" (ASV).

For more details, go to the following series of articles of mine:
Mainstream Religion Sold Out To Paganism, Details Sellout to Pagan Politicians
http://examining-doctrines.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=209

Your Friend in Christ Iris89
 

robtex

Veteran Member
iris89 said:
Hi Everyone

The reason for so much deviant sex and other types of sin is that those who are supposed to set the example are the corrupt ones.
For more details, go to the following series of articles of mine:
Mainstream Religion Sold Out To Paganism, Details Sellout to Pagan Politicians
http://examining-doctrines.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=209

Your Friend in Christ Iris89
Could you define deviant sex and when you say deviant what is it deviating from?
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
Iris, question:
When was the last time man was in line with the sexual life that G-d had "intended" for us?
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
Mainstream Religion Sold Out To Paganism, Details Sellout to Pagan Politicians
Why is it when I hear a lot of Christians talking about Paganism, it always seems like they are referring to it as if it was this bad/evil way of life?
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
Circle_One said:
Why is it when I hear a lot of Christians talking about Paganism, it always seems like they are referring to it as if it was this bad/evil way of life?
silly girl don't you know C1 your actually a tool of the Devil, who, is in fact, equal in power to G-d and is trying to destroy us all and gain control of heaven for himself because he has "pride".
girls are the devil
paganisms the devil
boobies are the devil

:biglaugh:
 

robtex

Veteran Member
Iris I read your article and I want to try to paraphrase it to make sure I comprehended it correctly. Deviant sex could be defined by God as hetrosexual sex within the confines of marriage between only two people and excluding the act of sodomy and without the aid of sexually stimulating literature or other media. Is this correct?

Also you talked about aids a lot but your sources were all Christian as opposed to medical on your link. Do you have any sources from the medical community on Aids? I am just asking cause to me going to a church to ask about something medical is to me like asking a plumber to look at my electrical wiring.
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
jewscout said:
silly girl don't you know C1 your actually a tool of the Devil, who, is in fact, equal in power to G-d and is trying to destroy us all and gain control of heaven for himself because he has "pride".
girls are the devil
paganisms the devil
boobies are the devil

:biglaugh:
Awwww, now I see the light...or evil darkness as it were :jam:
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
jewscout said:
silly girl don't you know C1 your actually a tool of the Devil, who, is in fact, equal in power to G-d and is trying to destroy us all and gain control of heaven for himself because he has "pride".
girls are the devil
paganisms the devil
boobies are the devil

:biglaugh:
lol, jewscout :biglaugh:
 

iris89

Active Member
Hi Everyone

Deviant sex is anything other that what God (YHWH) intended sex for which is hetrosexual sex within the confines of marriage. All else is deviant sex, i.e., adultery, fornication, homosexuality, beastiality, etc.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
iris89 said:
Hi Everyone

Deviant sex is anything other that what God (YHWH) intended sex for which is hetrosexual sex within the confines of marriage. All else is deviant sex, i.e., adultery, fornication, homosexuality, beastiality, etc.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89
Iris, while I can respect where you're coming from, there are about a dozen threads here that are attacking homosexuality, and if they aren't offended, I'm offended on their behalf. I'm also rather intruiged by the idea that pagans are running politics. Is that why a Iowa City group got tackled for celebrating their religious holiday in a peaceful and loving manner?
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
jewscout said:
silly girl don't you know C1 your actually a tool of the Devil, who, is in fact, equal in power to G-d and is trying to destroy us all and gain control of heaven for himself because he has "pride".
girls are the devil
paganisms the devil
boobies are the devil

:biglaugh:
If this is the case, I am gonna start worshipping the devil alot more often. And if C1 is one of his tools, then I willl become a tool too...more so.:D
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
He/She did not create homosexuals, LK. Perhaps that is something that the people discovered on their own.
 

iris89

Active Member
Hi Lightkeeper

Your statement,

Can you define "Mainstream Religion?" Sex among homosexuals isn't deviant to them. If God didn't want homosexuality then She shouldn't have created homosexuals.
Neither is robbery to a robber. I am obviously speaking of deviant sex from God's (YHWH's) point of view as shown in the word of God, and not from the point of view of the sexual deviant. Check Romans 1:26-27, "For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due." (American Standard Version; ASV); and 1 Timothy 4:3-8, "For this is the will of God, [even] your sanctification, that ye abstain from fornication; 4 that each one of you know how to possess himself of his own vessel in sanctification and honor, 5 not in the passion of lust, even as the Gentiles who know not God; 6 that no man transgress, and wrong his brother in the matter: because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as also we forewarned you and testified. 7 For God called us not for uncleanness, but in sanctification. 8 Therefore he that rejecteth, rejecteth not man, but God, who giveth his Holy Spirit unto you." (ASV); and Matthew 5:28, "but I say unto you, that every one that looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (ASV).

There are many forms of deviant sex, and these include adultery, fornication, homosexuality (both male and female), bestiality, etc. With respect to adultery for example the Bible says at Matthew 19:18, " He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness," (ASV); and Jesus said at Luke 18:20, " Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother." (ASV); and Romans 13:9, "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this word, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (ASV).


So glad I could assist you with respect understanding what deviant sex is from the only view point that matters, God's (YHWH's).

Your Friend in Christ Iris89
 
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