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Man Radicalized By BLM Videos Stabs AutoZone Employee 7 Times — Wanted To “Find A White Male To Kill
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I can't serve a god I don't believe exists.
But I can write limericks.
Eyes to See
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One way to find faith is to associate with those who do. It is a good thing to have. There is nothing better for the spirit than knowing why the things are the way they are, that they are soon going to change for the better. And knowing that people who love peace are being drawn to God now. And live in a spiritual paradise now amid a world full of strife and hatred. It really is an amazing thing. It is a privilege you will fully grow to understand when you grasp hold of it to see for yourself.
Faith in such things works for many people.
But not for me. It never called to me, & I've
never seen any reason to believe.
Eyes to See
Well-Known Member
I respect that. And appreciate you are a respectful person.
Hmm...I can tell you from personal experience that God is real.
During the quarantine we have been in it has been amazing to see how he has provided both physically and spiritually for the needs of those who serve him.
In fact, usually they gather together in assemblies each year, but because of the quarantine the gathering together has been done from the personal homes over zoom. And the assembly that was prepared long beforehand was given over an 8 week period on Sundays instead of the normal 3 day conventions we are used to.
And it was just precisely about that. Being joyful.
And as I observed the news and watched people on social media, such as Facebook, YouTube, even on this website bicker and fight over things that are going on, I saw God giving his people attention, making them feel joy, and loved. The more I see the world fragment the more I see God unfiy his people and embue them with a spirit of happiness and rejoicing. Of courage, of boldness, and of great love.
This is not a work of human nature.
God even said that his people would eat and drink and rejoice because of the good condition of the heart, while the world, that is ungodly people that don't serve him would suffer in a spiritual condition of deep spiritual famine:
And I will send a famine into the land, a famine, not for bread, and a thirst, not for water, but for hearing the words of Jehovah.-Amos 8:11.
Look! My servants will eat, but you will go hungry.
Look! My servants will drink, but you will go thirsty.
Look! My servants will rejoice, but you will suffer shame.
Look! My servants will shout joyfully because of the good condition of the heart,
But you will cry out because of the pain of heart
And you will wail because of a broken spirit.
-Isaiah 65:13-14.
I invite you to see for yourself:
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/categories/JWB2020Convention
Ah, I see that you're new.
I'm actually one of the most hated jerks here on RF.
Religion is just one of the calmer topics.
About being joyful....
I'm big on optimism, equanimity, & enjoyment.
I don't even worry about who'll win the upcoming election.
Nor do I hate any of the candidates.
Life is easier this way.
So I appreciate what you've found.
Eyes to See
Well-Known Member
That is good to hear. And I can sense in your comments a more tempered outlook on things than others.
Did you know that God warns us not to look to any man or man-made effort to bring about any real lasting solutions to human problems? I was taught this many decades ago, and over the decades and watching human rulers come and go I have seen how true the words are:
Do not put your trust in princes
Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation.
His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground;
On that very day his thoughts perish.
-Psalm 146: 3-4.
So it is futile really to look toward human-made governments and promises that inevitably come to failure. Everyone putting trust in them will be disappointed.
There is a true source of hope though. It lies in the government of God. It is heavenly. And it will soon rid the earth of all problems. It will even rid the earth of war, of violence, of crime, of disease, of natural disasters, and even of death itself!
Once you realize the far suerpiror quality of God's rule, and the misery man has put himself in trying to rule himself, you really stop paying attention to political disputes and wars, you don't' takes sides, or wonder if a human or group of human or human organizations will fix things. We know they never will. And we know that God promises to do just that.
You're forgetting that cooky used to be Landon Caeli who was almost as far right as anyone here, when he changed his name he tried to be more moderate, now he's just back to his old far right self.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Cooky
Veteran Member
That was impressive, actually.
Cooky if you really want to be my friend, I suggest you buy one of my violins, I have about 50 for sale, and reasonable prices LOL
Cooky
Veteran Member
I've thought about it, honestly.
...Recently I've been tinkering with my grandpa's old banjo. Maybe I'll come by one day when my kids get into band at school. I'm not far from Redlands.
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
I don't know... things like this may actually be actively ignored at some level. And I would guess this has to do with people not wanting there to be anything undermining "the movement" and the talk/potential for reform that comes with it. This isn't "good" by any stretch of the imagination. Much like anyone lying and scheming "for the greater good."
The media's likely role in it would be not wanting to see "the movement" undermined mostly for the continuous supply of headlines and newsworthy pieces of information that are to be gleaned from things like protests and riots.
Maybe a bit pessimistic an assessment, but I it's my best guess as to the motivations.
Nope. The fallacy, called the genetic fallacy, occurs when somebody declares that an argument's conclusion is wrong because of its source or author.
There is no fallacy involved to say that a source is not trustworthy, and rather than declare its assertions wrong, one simply isn't interested in information coming from that source.
A classic example was a creationist apologetics source that argued that man could not have come from the same ancestor as the other great apes, since they all have 24 pairs of chromosomes, and man has only three. The author argues that if any 24 chromosome ape simply gave birth to an descendant missing an entire chromosome, that descendant would die, not pass the mutation into the population's gene pool.
The problem here is that important information has been left out, without which it's pretty hard to disagree with the apologist's argument. You can evaluate the essay all you want, and never be able to find the problem in it. You have to do a review of the subject to learn about human chromosome 2
Once one understands the dishonesty of such sites and sources - and we all have dozens of examples of the dishonesty rampant in creationist apologetics, one simply and justifiably refuses to even consider anything from such sources.
Ethos is the term used in the philosophy of argumentation to refer to the way the speaker's audience relates to him apart from his message. Does the source seem knowledgeable? What are his apparent values? Does he seem to have an unstated agenda? Does he seem trustworthy?
These things can damage the effectiveness of a speaker independent of his actual argument (logos). Christian apologetics and apologists fail at all of those. Their agenda is to promote religion, not to spread factual knowledge. They will write whatever they think promotes that agenda, however dishonest. And you won't find many that know the science they condemn. So no, I won't even look at such links.
Conservative news and editorial sites such as the one you cited, En-Volve, suffer from the same problem. What won't Limbaugh or Hannity say if they think that it will convince their audience to support Republicans? So why even read them or listen to them? I don't need to rebut them to simply dismiss them out of hand.
Why is that legitimate? Because nothing that is true is known only to Christian apologists or conservative indoctrinators, meaning that anything that is true can also be found in a more respected news or science source, which I expect my apologist or conservative friends to link to if they want a skeptic to read it. If the claim can only be found on such sites, one can be pretty confident that it is a lie.
How about a point by point rebuttal to the argument above if you have one, or just an admission that you don't if you don't. How about either explaining why the individual points made and supported are either something you agree with, or a rebuttal to them that explains why their supporting arguments are incorrect in your estimation. For example, do you agree that it is not a logical fallacy to reject a site with a reputation for dishonesty? Do you think that something found only on an apologetics site and nowhere else should be trusted?
Please be thorough.
If you mean the god of the Christian Bible, I can assure you that you are wrong. Since you didn't feel the need to support your claim, I don't either, but I will anyway. For starters, that god is described in mutually incompatible terms (think married bachelor) making it logically impossible.
Also, the evidence in support of the theory of biological evolution rules out the god of Christian scripture, even if the theory is subsequently falsified. That evidence that previously suggested that the theory was correct, now proven incorrect, needs to be explained in the light of the falsifying finding, and creation by a god that wants to be known, believed, loved, and worshiped is inconsistent with what could only be understood as a great deception designed to mislead mankind. Is that the Christian god?
But no vaccine from this god. No peace in the land. I'd settle for an honest election, but I'm afraid this "amazing" god won't be up to that task, either.
How much worse would the nation look like if it were Satan running things? This is from a song called Sympathy for the Devil:
"I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank"
Sound familiar?
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I thought Fox was right wing in America?
Also it seems this guy is being locked up on hate crime charges. Deservedly so. If that made the news every time, you’d have to cut out weather and sports just to make room on the nightly news, wouldn’t you?
It's possible that active effort could be put into disparate coverage,
along with simply airing the news that attracts eyeballs, ie, money.
Unintended bias would of course be there too.
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
So any video that shows a cop abusing a black person is now a BLM video? How bizarre.
What I find truly disturbing is that there are so very many videos online that show police blatantly abusing people that people can become 'radicalized' by them.