You're referring to the religious evangelical right-wingers, I see?
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You're referring to the religious evangelical right-wingers, I see?
That wasn't hearsay!
Trump held up a Bible and said something churchy. That's how religious evangelical right-wingers knew that Trump is a Christian.
Like Cortez and the Borgian popes and Queen Isabella...
And me. If someone says they're a Christian then they are one. What other standard is there?
Tom
Father Heathen
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Father Heathen
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We should let all of the religious conservatives, tea partiers, Trumpers, etc. move to Texas, allow it to secede from the U.S. so they can have their happy little 3rd world Theocracy. Next, build the wall around the opposite side of the former state.
Within a few years we would have former trump supporters sneaking over to pick our peppers.
Within a few years we would have former trump supporters sneaking over to pick our peppers.
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Eh? Did I word it wrong or is the joke wooshing over my head?
Whooshing over your head.
Tom
He's apparently never picked any peppers.
Father Heathen
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Oh, so it was "picking peppers" as an euphemism? That was initially cut from the quote, hence the confusion.
But no, I've only picked my own.
That sounds so.....never mind.
We don't have a democracy now, we have an oligarchy, and the Homeland Security Act, Patriot Act, explosive expansion of the NSA and other measures infringing on civil rights and creating a surveillance state were opposed by the left. They're right-wing initiatives pushed through in the panic after 9/11.
It's not the left that's promoting a police-surviellance state. You've got it backwards.
No doubt they'll be picking a peck of pickled peppers.
I think a lot of states (such as AZ) are turning more purplish these days.
Those travesties are the result of democracy.
Voters keep electing & re-electing leaders (both parties) who do those things.
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When was the last time we had candidates to choose from who weren't obligated to corporate interests?
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Hot and spicy?
GOP is compromised. They don't care what Trump does if it makes money and keeps them in power. Same folks that wanted to impeach Clinton over lying about sex or Obama for not being a citizen, years of Clinton investigations, where as Trump and plenty of GOP keep getting caught actually being corrupt.
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I think it is as severe as the article you posted makes it out to be.
For example: look at the way in which many experienced and esteemed (I presume) members of Congress, Senators, and opinion writers for reputable newspapers, such as the Wall Street Journal, have been defending the president during this impeachment inquiry.
As the revelations about the president’s embarrassing and indefensible behavior have piled up, they have reacted with almost psychotic breaks from reality. I apologize for using the word “psychotic” here, but I struggle to find the right words to describe how reality has collided with their unquestioning loyalty to Donald Trump, and how the flaming debris from that collision emerge from their mouths in the form of obfuscation, red herrings, white-washing and what-about-ism.
How else can one describe Senator Lindsay Graham, who called Trump a “kook” who was “unfit for office” back in 2015 (or maybe it was 2016), but ten million crazy Trumper-tantrums later, sneers at the media for trying to insinuate Trump is a kook who is unfit for office and refuses to answer simple questions like, “Was the President’s behavior appropriate?”
How else can one describe the Wall Street Journal, whose opinion pages I read for some reason, and its use of words like “boorish” and “gadfly” to gently criticize the president’s manners and then quickly change the subject, without addressing the wrongdoing.
Even Peggy Noonan, the former Reagan speechwriter and longtime massager of truth into shapes enticing to her conservative readership, has finally capitulated and acknowledged “Look, he did it”. As if to say, look readers, the jig is up, I can no longer shape the facts into something that distracts from or lessens the abuses of this president. But she STILL couldn’t resist spending a THIRD of the article criticizing a WITNESS to “it” - that is, the thing that, look, Trump “did” - Lt. Colonel Vindman. Her finely calibrated antennae were able to detect something worth spending time criticizing: namely, Vindman wearing his uniform and asking to be addressed by his title. Ms. Noonan’s remarkably selective outrage detectors picked up a reading on Vindman’s supposed “smugness”, yet failed to register how Vindman and other witnesses have been despicably smeared, or how outrageous “it” is - you know, that thing that, look, Trump “did”. OK?
The mind boggles at how so many people are using the full force of their intelligence to excuse Trump’s behavior. Not unlike an over-indulgent parent who refuses to see bad behavior even when their toddler is having a Twitter-tantrum right in front of them.
Mr Spinkles
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Why hello! It is good to see you again. I hope you are well.
This is somewhat tangential, but it’s interesting how the mythical “never-Trumper” construct works almost like the mythical figure of Satan tempting us to question the faith. It’s also a Catch-22: evidence that casts Trump in a negative light cannot be believed if it comes from a Never-Trumper. But anyone who presents evidence that casts him in a bad light is a Never-Trumper. Therefore, no evidence can be believed that casts him in a bad light.
Roosevelt?When was the last time we had candidates to choose from who weren't obligated to corporate interests?