firedragon
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It is what believers do. They believe things.
Intellectual. Very.
Cheers.
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It is what believers do. They believe things.
Intellectual. Very.
Cheers.
Just believing things is the opposite of
intellectual.
So is projecting your own shortcomings
onto others.
If a time machine transported the long dead Jesus forward in time to the 21st century, I wonder how he would react to what is being said and done in his name? Some Christian extremists drag through the sewer Jesus and the faith, which was created well after he died, with him as the figurehead.
I have no time for those who use the Bible as an excuse to bolster their unpleasant behaviour like a hatred of homosexuals. As I have said many times, it is possible Jesus could have been gay as the Bible mentions he had a specific disciple whom he loved, who was likely to have been a male. He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
I suspect if he had been a decent sort of guy Jesus would be shocked at how the Bible is interpreted by extremists. 'Depart from me for I never knew you', might be the expletive he would use if he encountered them.
Whilst my husband and I don't see it their way, we have no problem with moderate live and let live Christians, who often do a lot of good in this world, like our own three daughters, of whom we are very proud. I reckon Jesus would be proud of people like them too.
If a time machine transported the long dead Jesus forward in time to the 21st century, I wonder how he would react to what is being said and done in his name? Some Christian extremists drag through the sewer Jesus and the faith, which was created well after he died, with him as the figurehead.
I have no time for those who use the Bible as an excuse to bolster their unpleasant behaviour like a hatred of homosexuals. As I have said many times, it is possible Jesus could have been gay as the Bible mentions he had a specific disciple whom he loved, who was likely to have been a male. He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
If a time machine transported the long dead Jesus forward in time to the 21st century, I wonder how he would react to what is being said and done in his name? Some Christian extremists drag through the sewer Jesus and the faith, which was created well after he died, with him as the figurehead.
I have no time for those who use the Bible as an excuse to bolster their unpleasant behaviour like a hatred of homosexuals. As I have said many times, it is possible Jesus could have been gay as the Bible mentions he had a specific disciple whom he loved, who was likely to have been a male. He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
I suspect if he had been a decent sort of guy Jesus would be shocked at how the Bible is interpreted by extremists. 'Depart from me for I never knew you', might be the expletive he would use if he encountered them.
Whilst my husband and I don't see it their way, we have no problem with moderate live and let live Christians, who often do a lot of good in this world, like our own three daughters, of whom we are very proud. I reckon Jesus would be proud of people like them too.
My belief is that He already returned and the Christian world rejected Him.
It is what believers do. They believe things.
Do you have any evidence for that?
It's not time yet for his return. Various end-time events still need to occur first.
Today, similarly, all the conflicting and divisive interpretations of the Bible have done is turned Christians away from Jesus when He returned as they failed to grasp the true significance of the meanings of the Gospels with regards to His return. And So they have remained deprived of His return and still await His coming when those who have understood the signs have been already lifted up with Him.
I haven't seen any of that in the church. The Christians I know have not turned away from Jesus and none of them believe he has already come. They're expecting him at the end of the age, if not sooner in the Rapture.
I am afraid it is going to take an act of God in order for Christians to stop waiting for the same Jesus to appear in the clouds, and we may well see that act of God eventually, since God is probably getting impatient. It is too bad so many people might have to suffer when that could have been avoided.if one accepts Jesus first coming but has rejected His Second coming then they have proven to be unfaithful to Him. To remain faithful to Jesus one must needs accept both times when He appeared not only the one time.
We are already in a new age. The end of the age has come and gone. All things have been made new.
If a time machine transported the long dead Jesus forward in time to the 21st century, I wonder how he would react to what is being said and done in his name? Some Christian extremists drag through the sewer Jesus and the faith, which was created well after he died, with him as the figurehead.
I have no time for those who use the Bible as an excuse to bolster their unpleasant behaviour like a hatred of homosexuals. As I have said many times, it is possible Jesus could have been gay as the Bible mentions he had a specific disciple whom he loved, who was likely to have been a male. He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
I suspect if he had been a decent sort of guy Jesus would be shocked at how the Bible is interpreted by extremists. 'Depart from me for I never knew you', might be the expletive he would use if he encountered them.
Whilst my husband and I don't see it their way, we have no problem with moderate live and let live Christians, who often do a lot of good in this world, like our own three daughters, of whom we are very proud. I reckon Jesus would be proud of people like them too.
It would be interesting to see what the real Jesus was actually like.I often wonder taking a time machine back.
...He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
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But Jesus told:
Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:17-19
And in OT homosexuality is not accepted.
If a time machine transported the long dead Jesus forward in time to the 21st century, I wonder how he would react to what is being said and done in his name? Some Christian extremists drag through the sewer Jesus and the faith, which was created well after he died, with him as the figurehead.
I have no time for those who use the Bible as an excuse to bolster their unpleasant behaviour like a hatred of homosexuals. As I have said many times, it is possible Jesus could have been gay as the Bible mentions he had a specific disciple whom he loved, who was likely to have been a male. He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
I suspect if he had been a decent sort of guy Jesus would be shocked at how the Bible is interpreted by extremists. 'Depart from me for I never knew you', might be the expletive he would use if he encountered them.
Whilst my husband and I don't see it their way, we have no problem with moderate live and let live Christians, who often do a lot of good in this world, like our own three daughters, of whom we are very proud. I reckon Jesus would be proud of people like them too.
In which case the OT is WRONG!
If a time machine transported the long dead Jesus forward in time to the 21st century, I wonder how he would react to what is being said and done in his name? Some Christian extremists drag through the sewer Jesus and the faith, which was created well after he died, with him as the figurehead.
I have no time for those who use the Bible as an excuse to bolster their unpleasant behaviour like a hatred of homosexuals. As I have said many times, it is possible Jesus could have been gay as the Bible mentions he had a specific disciple whom he loved, who was likely to have been a male. He never condemned, homosexuality, which is not one of the ten commandments either.
I suspect if he had been a decent sort of guy Jesus would be shocked at how the Bible is interpreted by extremists. 'Depart from me for I never knew you', might be the expletive he would use if he encountered them.
Whilst my husband and I don't see it their way, we have no problem with moderate live and let live Christians, who often do a lot of good in this world, like our own three daughters, of whom we are very proud. I reckon Jesus would be proud of people like them too.
What a very unpleasant attitude you have, gay sex is NOT wrong only in the heads of anti-gay bigots. I do hope that guy Jesus had been gay and had a great sex life.Why?
Anyway, I think it should be clear even without saying that gay sex is not reasonable, not good for your health and also disgusting thing.
You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestible [=disgusting thing].
Lev. 18:22