Desert Snake
Veteran Member
So, wacky rabbi was forsaken on the cross, we all know that.
However does the scripture ever say that he was unforsaken, afterwards?
However does the scripture ever say that he was unforsaken, afterwards?
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Does the bible ever say that jesus was unforsaken?
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MikeDwight
Well-Known Member
to be cast into the dark lower realm of the human beings, smelly jews, and so forth.
exchemist
Veteran Member
How would you account for the Ascension?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
That's a good question, however these seem to be apples and oranges, if you ask me.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
I take Matthew 27:46 as it were Jesus starting a literal, literary reference to Psalm 22. Interestingly John 19 has Jesus say "It is finished" without saying "my god, my god...". "It is finished" seems to mirror the final verse of Psalm 22 "He has done it!" It is as if the author of John's gospel was mindful of a tradition of association to Psalm 22 in the tradition of Jesus but went with a different literary reference.
Psalms are songs which seem to ask a question and provide an answer to that question. As such they lead from complaint, suffering and mystery to some sort of explanation, solution or new perspective. Having Jesus evoke a known psalm at the moment of his greatest suffering is obviously an act of profound worship. The authors were inviting the audience to participate in the moment through a well-known song. The authors were not recording history but crafting a story meant to show others the true nature of God in the myth of the story of Jesus (Yeshua).
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
The scriptures clearly told that Jesus Son-of-the-Father was so loved by the people that he was pardoned and released. Later bibles had the name Jesus removed, but kept 'Son-of-the-Father' in Eastern Aramaic for us to see but not to comprehend.
So nobody notices this, and you may not, either.
Bible tells God raised Jesus from the death. I think that is same as being unforsaken.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
They didn't recognize the 'jesus', that ascended. It never says they realized it was the rabbi, they didn't recognize that 'jesus', at all.