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Why is Islam so dangerous?

sooda

Veteran Member
I believe that Muslims will try to avoid sin but will not be successful. Christians are successful.

I believe the information in the Qu'ran about what is require to enter into the Kingdom of God now and in the last days is insufficient

LOLOL.. You "believe".. Do you know any Muslims?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
There are donations coming from people in KSA.

Nope. Its been 20 years since the Saudis shut all that down... preventing donations thru mosques or private transfers.

Most of the "experts" on KSA don't know anything about the Saudis and have never set foot in the kingdom.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Nope. Its been 20 years since the Saudis shut all that down... preventing donations thru mosques or private transfers.

Most of the "experts" on KSA don't know anything about the Saudis and have never set foot in the kingdom.

I do not believe that. No government can 100% eliminate donation of that nature especially laundering or hand transfers. Eat up the propaganda.
 

Wasp

Active Member
I believe that Muslims will try to avoid sin but will not be successful. Christians are successful.
successful in avoiding sin as a doesn't sin?
I believe the information in the Qu'ran about what is require to enter into the Kingdom of God now and in the last days is insufficient
Right back at you. Your Jesus died like thousands of other people in those days. You call that sacrifice?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I do not believe that. No government can 100% eliminate donation of that nature especially laundering or hand transfers. Eat up the propaganda.

Well you might go back and read the Saudi newspaper archives over the past 20 years... or does your belief trump facts?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Well you might go back and read the Saudi newspaper archives over the past 20 years... or does your belief trump facts?

You could read US and EU reports. So which is more likely. KSA having a 100% clean record of zero terrorist funding from any source or it has a problem however minor which it is combating. Mind you any source. Which one sounds like utopian fantasy?

Oh look a report from an organization KSA is a member of.... Also note the date.

Documents - Financial Action Task Force (FATF)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Why do so many only talk about Saudi Arabia supporting terror, when it has been proven America support Terrorists with weapons and money? (Israel is one American supported terror state)
 

sooda

Veteran Member
You could read US and EU reports. So which is more likely. KSA having a 100% clean record of zero terrorist funding from any source or it has a problem however minor which it is combating. Mind you any source. Which one sounds like utopian fantasy?

Oh look a report from an organization KSA is a member of.... Also note the date.

Documents - Financial Action Task Force (FATF)

When KSA discovers a terrorist cell there is usually a fierce gun battle and/or prison and execution.
 

Raymann

Active Member
I am not a Muslim.. I'm an Episcopalian
Sorry about the confusion.

sooda said: ↑
Muslims are just people. We are different, but more alike than different

What did you mean by "We", who is "We", I thought you meant "We" Muslims.

So you are not a Muslim, just a Muslim apologist.
What is an apologist?
"Someone who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something (in this case Islam)"
The problem I find when discussing with apologists is that there is no objectivity involved in the discussion.
You try to defend your position regardless of your points being true or not, and regardless of being proved wrong time after time.

Anti-Semitism by Muslims


Quote from the video:

"I was born to hate Jews. It was part of my life. I never questioned it."

More quotes from the video

"Beginning in the 1990s, speakers and teachers at mosques and in schools began to endlessly
01:02
repeat this theme: We were not Western.
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We were not British.
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We were Muslims, first and only.
01:10
Our loyalty was to our religion and to our fellow Muslims.
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We owed nothing to the Western nations that welcomed us.
01:17
As Westerners, they were our enemies.
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All of this had its desired effect; at least, it did on me.
01:24
It changed the way that I saw the world."

Wait, see 01:17 "As Westerners, they were our enemies".
We are the enemies just by being westerners?


I wonder how many of the 1.6 billion Muslims share this "Moderate Muslim" hate for Jews and westerners just by being born within the Muslim Culture?
Do Muslims by default hate Jews and westerners?
We now know that even "Moderate" Imams in western countries teach Muslims to hate.

Just another reason why Islam is so dangerous.
 

Mudramoksha

Member
What is an apologist?
"Someone who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something (in this case Islam)"
The problem I find when discussing with apologists is that there is no objectivity involved in the discussion.
You try to defend your position regardless of your points being true or not

After reading through some of your posts in this thread, I am certain that you are an apologist for terrorism. Your agenda is to defend and legitimize terrorism and demonize Islam (like Notanumber) using delusional propaganda.

I have a question for you Raymann, are you an undercover Wahhabi?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Islam rules Iran with an iron fist.

If it did not Iran would have rejected Islam by now.
Islam does not Rule Iran the way you describe it. They are allowed to protect their own area and as far as all evidence, the sip was inside the Iranian controlled sea. That means as any other country, they are allowed to stop any ship that enters their territorial area. That has nothing to do with Islam.
Politics and Religion are two different things, even in a country that is mostly lead by priests. And actually Iran wants peace, but America keeps trying to make Iran attack them.

Why do America have warships around iran? Not to protet America because that is on the other side of the earth. America should pull their troops away from middle east, but the Idiot Trump have just agreed to send 1000 troops more to the middle east.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Islam does not Rule Iran the way you describe it. They are allowed to protect their own area and as far as all evidence, the sip was inside the Iranian controlled sea. That means as any other country, they are allowed to stop any ship that enters their territorial area. That has nothing to do with Islam.
Politics and Religion are two different things, even in a country that is mostly lead by priests. And actually Iran wants peace, but America keeps trying to make Iran attack them.

Why do America have warships around iran? Not to protet America because that is on the other side of the earth. America should pull their troops away from middle east, but the Idiot Trump have just agreed to send 1000 troops more to the middle east.

I am sure Mr Trump would like nothing better than to leave Iran to lie in the bed that it has made for itself but he has to counteract piracy for the good of the rest of the world.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I am sure Mr Trump would like nothing better than to leave Iran to lie in the bed that it has made for itself but he has to counteract piracy for the good of the rest of the world.
Why Does America think they are the world police?? They are not.
America should stay out of the Middle east because it is America who provokes the Radical Islamic people. Ever since America started to meddle in the middle east in the 70s it has created more and more hate,
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Why Does America think they are the world police?? They are not.
America should stay out of the Middle east because it is America who provokes the Radical Islamic people. Ever since America started to meddle in the middle east in the 70s it has created more and more hate,

America is not as bad as you and Iran like to paint it.

The world would be a much more dangerous place without the USA and its current leader.
 
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