Spartan
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The spiritually-constipated crowd never takes well to the truths of Christ. If Jesus himself were to tell folks like you to repent or perish (Luke 13:3) you wouldn't like him either.
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Children should make up their own minds about religion
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The spiritually-constipated crowd never takes well to the truths of Christ. If Jesus himself were to tell folks like you to repent or perish (Luke 13:3) you wouldn't like him either.
ecco
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So, I guess the holy ghost who raped Mary was not a holy ghost who raped Mary.
Folly? The quote is very specific. You just don't want to believe it pertains to anal sex.
You fear the whole notion of anything that counters your Fundamentalist beliefs. You know that if any of them are wrong, the entire basis for your beliefs would crumble and you would be left, emotionally, alone and naked.
You probably hate and fear John Lennon's Imagine as much as you do homosexuals. Pat's on the back? I'd gently pat you on the head and tell you it's OK to go on pretending your love for bacon is God-approved.
Spartan
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There was no Holy Ghost rape of Mary. If you ever had the intestinal fortitude and good sense to read the scriptures you would have known that.
From Luke chapter 1: The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” 29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”
34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[b] the Son of God. 36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. 37 For no word from God will ever fail.”
38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.
That was Mary's consent. Sorry you missed it.
Go tell that horse manure to your pet carp. Maybe he'll believe you, but I doubt it.
You might not like him if he said to you, "Depart from me for I never knew you!"
I quite agree.
I see no upside to being unaware of the diversity of beliefs and practices.
Do you worship Paul? The verse from Ezekiel is supposed to be your god himself speaking and no sexual sin or sex at all is mentioned. Not even Lot offering his daughters to be raped instead is mentioned (because it was actually attempted rape of disguised angels that were Lot's guests and not gay sex that was going on there; mistreating guests was a big no-no in ancient cultures). You take it up with your god as to why he didn't chose to mention homosexuality there if it was the biggest offense in that passage.
I don't believe in the concept of sin as it's alien to my worldview and tradition, so I don't really care what you Abrahamics call sin as long as you keep it to yourselves.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
What you prefer to believe isn't based on what the Bible says - that homosexual sin is a perversion and an abomination.
Only an unpleasant bigot sees anything wrong in being a homosexual, Jesus could have been gay for all you know.
Spartan
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Sorry, sport, I've ALREADY crossed over unto eternal life in Christ (John 5:24, etc.).
You hope, I wouldn't bank on it if I were you. I suspect god might not be too thrilled with a person who drags Christianity through the sewer as you appear to do.
Spartan
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You haven't done your homework. Here's an exhaustive 800+ page book filled with the kinds of evidences for Jesus that your bias cannot fathom or refute.
The Historical Jesus of the Gospels, by Dr. Craig Keener
Do your homework for a change.
I don't believe that man has any verifiable evidence, he is a Christian who interprets things to suit his take on the faith.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
Sure, all Christian scholars are liars and charlatans and are historically challenged. Bull.
Why don't you ever do your homework instead of throwing your usual garbage against the wall to see what sticks?
That is funny coming from you, your posts aren't in the least bit logical.You certainly aren't persuading anyone to see it your way, just the opposite is the case.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
You're not the least bit logical or convincing.
I guess you've ran out of things to say because that's not a rebuttal to what I said. Not my fault that you prefer to believe what the (probable) closet case Paul had to say over what your very deity plainly stated. Even what Paul said is up in the air since he wasn't clear about what he meant. You just warp religion to use as a crutch for hatred. You seem very ignorant about theology or what your own holy book says. Pathetic.
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Spartan
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You're full of folly, trying to justify abominations. You've got nothing of substance.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
LuisDantas said: ↑
The way I see it, children better be at least aware of the religious values and language of their own parents.
That this somehow ends up confused by many parents with odd attempts at deciding what the beliefs of those children should be shows how misguided certain creeds are.
"As a matter of general knowledge children should be taught about the world religions"
I support the above, and to that end I suggest the schools/colleges/universities should arrange periodically in their halls representatives of the religions and no-religions to deliver lectures
introducing their world-views followed by a question answer session for the children. Right, please?
Regards
The way I see it, children better be at least aware of the religious values and language of their own parents.
That this somehow ends up confused by many parents with odd attempts at deciding what the beliefs of those children should be shows how misguided certain creeds are.
"children better be at least aware of the religious values and language of their own parents."
"As a matter of general knowledge children should be taught about the world religions"
I support the above, and to that end I suggest the schools/colleges/universities should arrange periodically in their halls representatives of the religions and no-religions to deliver lectures
introducing their world-views followed by a question answer session for the children. Right, please?
Regards
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I wouldn't let a child make up their own mind about what they are going to eat for dinner let alone something as heady as religion. That sort of thinking is just absurd. Would let a child make up their own mind as to what age junior is going to get to buy booze or not? What kind of parent would do that?