That Whole Homosexual--Sin Thing

We Never Know · May 17, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
When has there ever been reliable evidence for a God?

My post was clear and spoke for itself. Thousands of years ago, every one believed in one god or another.
Where is there evidence for life on other planets? Life in earth isn't evidence for life on other planets. The moon came up void, Mars so far is void, but we keep looking even though evidence is void simply because we don't know.

We Never Know · May 17, 2019

InChrist said:
The scriptures say that God created everything good. Humans chose sin over God's love and goodness and sin causes the destruction. God had to give humans the choice to choose love or sin because love must be freely received and given. The choice is still available, though, for His love and deliverance from the destruction.

BS. Your God is supposedly all knowing and seeing. He should have known humans would be bad and destructive but created them any way. Try again.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
My post was clear and spoke for itself. Thousands of years ago, every one believed in one god or another.
Where is there evidence for life on other planets? Life in earth isn't evidence for life on other planets. The moon came up void, Mars so far is void, but we keep looking even though evidence is void simply because we don't know.

Yes, so now you are saying that it was not only an argument from ignorance, but an ad populum fallacy as well.

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
When has there ever been reliable evidence for a God?

You don't even understand why, who or what about the past. Your the type of guy that thinks a model T was junk compared to what we have today even though in its time the model T was top of the line.
Stone hence, the pyramids, the walls of Saksaywaman, etc. They were built with master precision and reason we don't even know about. You call them goat herders, I call them masters of their time. They created things that in reality were beyond their time. We don't even know why they crested them and we only have theories how they did it.
Those many thousands pounds stones cut and fitted liked a jigsaw puzzle at the Saksaywaman walls where a feat of nothing but knowledge and skill, not goat herders.
You live for today and don't understand yesterday. Without a witness, it didn't happen. Without evidence, it didn't happen. Get out of your box and realize even science says anything is possible.

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Yes, so now you are saying that it was not only an argument from ignorance, but an ad populum fallacy as well.

Dude. Get put of your box. Was God an argument from ignorance 3500 years ago? That is reality. Get out of your safety box and realise those people in their time were just as much on top of their game and as smart as we are in our time.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
You don't even understand why, who or what about the past. Your the type of guy that thinks a model T was junk compared to what we have today even though in its time the model T was top of the line.
Stone hence, the pyramids, the walls of Saksaywaman, etc. They were built with master precision and reason we don't even know about. You call them goat herders, I call them masters of their time. They created things that in reality were beyond their time. We don't even know why they crested them and we only have theories how they did it.
Those many thousands pounds stones cut and fitted liked a jigsaw puzzle at the Saksaywaman walls where a feat of nothing but knowledge and skill, not goat herders.
You live for today and don't understand yesterday. Without a witness, it didn't happen. Without evidence, it didn't happen. Get out of your box and realize even science says anything is possible.

That was a dodge. or perhaps a ford, no definitely a dodge.

When has there ever been reliable evidence for a God?

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Yes, so now you are saying that it was not only an argument from ignorance, but an ad populum fallacy as well.

I don't believe in god and I don't try to show or prove a god does or doesn't exist. You seem to live a life where your goal is trying to show a god doesn't exist. That's a sad life because even if you lived to be 1000, you would never show that. I get you don't believe in god but it's like your on a mission against god, trying to show no gods exists. You're fighting a winless battle.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
Dude. Get put of your box. Was God an argument from ignorance 3500 years ago? That is reality. Get out of your safety box and realise those people in their time were just as much on top of their game and as smart as we are in our time.

Yes, The God argument has always been an argument from ignorance. Do you know what that is? You dodged a question that showed you to be wrong. An argument from ignorance is NOT calling the people that make it ignorant.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
I don't believe in god and I don't try to show or prove a god does or doesn't exist. You seem to live a life where your goal is trying to show a god doesn't exist. That's a sad life because even if you lived to be 1000, you would never show that. I get you don't believe in god but it's like your on a mission against god, trying to show no gods exists. You're fighting a winless battle.

Nope, I have never tried to prove that God does not exist. Where did you get that from? Do you ever actually listen to others?

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
That was a dodge. or perhaps a ford, no definitely a dodge.

When has there ever been reliable evidence for a God?

No dodge. But since you want to be that way. Show me evidence from 5000 years ago for a god. You can't. We can't. We don't know. All there is passed on storied and books. We can't talk to people that claimed to saw, wrote the books, etc.

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Yes, The God argument has always been an argument from ignorance. Do you know what that is? You dodged a question that showed you to be wrong. An argument from ignorance is NOT calling the people that make it ignorant.

Evidently you don't. Do you think people 4000 years ago thought god was an argument from ignorance. I doubt it.
Do isolated tribes think their gods are arguments from ignorance? I doubt it.
You live in a box and you keep slowly closing the lid because of today's standards.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
No dodge. But since you want to be that way. Show me evidence from 5000 years ago for a god. You can't. We can't. We don't know. All there is passed on storied and books. We can't talk to people that claimed to saw, wrote the books, etc.

Sigh, you don't even know how old the Bible is. Don't get angry because you don't know something or used a failed argument. It does no good.

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Nope, I have never tried to prove that God does not exist. Where did you get that from? Do you ever actually listen to others?

Every post you make is god is a myth etc. But hey that's your M.O. don't changed now.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
Evidently you don't. Do you think people 4000 years ago thought god was an argument from ignorance. I doubt it.
Do isolated tribes think their gods are arguments from ignorance? I doubt it.
You live in a box and you keep slowly closing the lid because of today's standards.

You really need to learn what an argument from ignorance is. I am not the one living in a box.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
Every post you make is god is a myth etc. But hey that's your M.O. don't changed now.

Yes, most beliefs about God are mythical. So what? Once again you are not reasoning properly here. Getting angry does you no good.

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Sigh, you don't even know how old the Bible is. Don't get angry because you don't know something or used a failed argument. It does no good.

Lol. Do you not think a god or gods existed in the minds of man before the bible. That's what's odd about you. Your biggest argument always has to do with the bible because that's the book many religions hold on to.
After over a year of reading your posts, God really doesn't bother you, religion does and you attack it in any way you can.
My philosophy in life is, if it doesn't affect my life, change my life, change my family's life, etc, why attack it unless it is nothing more than a personal agenda for some reason that you can't stomach or stand.

We Never Know · May 18, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Yes, most beliefs about God are mythical. So what? Once again you are not reasoning properly here. Getting angry does you no good.

Who's angry. You are doing notjing more than responding as a creationist using personal feelings and choice. That's your fault.

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
Lol. Do you not think a god or gods existed in the minds of man before the bible. That's what's odd about you. Your biggest argument always has to do with the bible because that's the book many religions hold on to.
After over a year of reading your posts, God really doesn't bother you, religion does and you attack it in any way you can.
My philosophy in life is, if it doesn't affect my life, change my life, change my family's life, etc, why attack it unless it is nothing more than a personal agenda for some reason that you can't stomach or stand.

Please, you simply do not know what others think.

But one more time, when has there ever been evidence for a God?

InChrist · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
BS. Your God is supposedly all knowing and seeing. He should have known humans would be bad and destructive but created them any way. Try again.

Sure God knew humans would be destructive, but He also knew some along the way would see the error of their ways, turn back to Him, and desire to change

Subduction Zone · May 18, 2019

We Never Know said:
Who's angry. You are doing notjing more than responding as a creationist using personal feelings and choice. That's your fault.

When you run away from simple questions and rant and rave you demonstrate that you are angry. And no, you are the one using personal feelings here. I have asked you a simple question several times and you ran away from it. No more questions from you until you answer my question.

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