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Featured That Whole Homosexual--Sin Thing

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Skwim, May 14, 2019.

  1. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    In a post in another thread it was mentioned that god considers gay sex a sin. Nothing new. Everyone knows it, but it got me wondering why. What is so wrong about an act, which only brings pleasure and hurts no one, that god considers it a sin? So much so, in fact, that if one engages in homosexual sex god will bar such an unrepentant or ignorant sinner from Heaven.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (ESV)
    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
    While, as I understand it, it's no sin to have a homosexual attachment to someone, as long as it isn't lustful I guess, it does imply that once pee pees touch or hoo-has meet it's all over. Think of it. Let the sexual organs of two homosexuals get as close as possible while still leaving breathing space between them and you're home free. BUT let the two touch for just a fraction of a second and god will have picked up on it and punched your ticket to hell.

    I know the Bible doesn't explain why god detests homosexual sex in particular---although "denial" does come to mind---but shouldn't there be an obvious reason for it? Or does it all come down to invoking the old "God Works In Mysterious Ways" rationalization?


    In any case, let's hear it people!
    The Reason God Detests Homosexual Sex Is BECAUSE:____________________________________________ .
    (And "because It's icky" is not an acceptable answer.)

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  2. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    I do have an argument, although you won't like it.
     
  3. Stanyon

    Stanyon RF's Ultra -Square

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    The God of Abraham is a self hating homosexual that doesn't like lesbians.
     
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  4. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    Well, I'm not really looking for an argument as much as I am a reason, but go ahead. What's your argument?


    But isn't she a lesbian to begin with?

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    If you read the entire passage you included, you'll notice it also says... sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. So God does not single out the practice of homosexuality, as you are doing.
    I would say that homosexuality along with other sinful practices are detested by God because they are harmful and against His design for human beings.
     
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    AT-AT Active Member

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    As a person who has had a couple of male relationships as well as even more female ones... Man, you are making it hard for me not to insert my sense of humor on what seems to be a serious question.
     
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  7. Woberts

    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    Join the club. ;)
     
  8. Skwim

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    So what? Isn't it obvious that right now I don't care about the other sins, just homosexual sex?

    Fine. It's somewhat obvious that it's against his design, but why would god design a being wherein a pleasurable, harmless activity be deemed harmful? And, just how does homosexual sex harm his design? AND how do you know this?

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    Salvador Conscious Being

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    There's no such thing as God having gay-dar.

    Your Bible quote comes from Paul, who was a homophobic person; nowhere in the New Testament does Jesus Christ himself condemn homosexuality.
     
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    Skwim Veteran Member

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    Hey, humor is welcome in small doses; however, I am serious about a serious answer. Seriously.

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    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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  12. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    The real reason God hates homosexuals is the same reason that he was pissed off at Onan for euphemistically "spilling his seed on the ground." This stuff comes from a minority group in a hostile world in the Middle East, at the time it was written, and anything that wasn't making babies (to be either warriors, or mothers of the next batch of warriors) put the community at risk. Procreation for the Nation...Rah Rah Rah. (Chearleaders might've helped, actually...:cool:)
     
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  13. AT-AT

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    Anyway, I think the main reasons are because of Sodom and Gamorrah being destroyed in the OT, and in the NT, some translations of Revelation mention about homosexuals not entering the kingdom of heaven.
     
  14. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    Actually, let me just add to my last post, that Augustus Caesar had much the same problem back in Rome...there was too much fiddling and too little birthing, and he actually lectured the nobility about the matter --- "get married and make babies!"
     
  15. Skwim

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    Don't care. Jesus Christ isn't the only one people listen to. And Leviticus slams homosexual acts quite well on its own.

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    Skwim Veteran Member

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    But these would applications of his law. Not reasons for establishing it.


    Still doesn't answer the reason why.

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  18. AT-AT

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    You're right. I'm kind of dodging the question because it's too good. I bet it can even put theologians in a corner of saying "Well, because God didn't design it that way, and it makes Him angry."
     
  19. MJFlores

    MJFlores John 15:19

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    it causes the spread of HIV.

    God is all knowing
    All wise and knew that homosexual sex is dirty and a petri dish of many problems

    How common is HIV in the Philippines?
    Current status. The Philippines is a low-HIV-prevalence country, with less than 0.1 percent of the adult population estimated to be HIV-positive, but the rate of increase in infections is one of the highest. ... The infection rate among men having sex with men has multiplied 10 times from 2010 to 2015.

    HIV/AIDS in the Philippines - Wikipedia

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    A total of 38 cases involved minors under 15 years old. With a population of more than 100 million, the number of HIV cases in the Philippines remains low. But in terms of percentage increase, the UN said in August 2017 the country has the fastest growing HIV epidemic in the Asia-Pacific region in recent years.Feb 19, 2018
    Philippines: HIV cases up 3,147 percent in 10 years | News

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    PHILIPPINES ADDRESSES RISING TREND IN NEW HIV INFECTIONS

    A UNAIDS Report on the global HIV epidemic states that the number of new infections in the Philippines has more than doubled in the past six (6) years from an estimated 4,300 in 2010 to an estimated 10,500 in 2016. The Philippines has become the country with the fastest growing HIV epidemic in Asia and the Pacific, and has become one of eight countries that account for more than 85% of new HIV infections in the region.

    While the country has the fastest growing epidemic in terms of percentage increase, the number of new infections in the Philippines is not as high as several countries in the region which are estimated to have tens of thousands of new infections annually.

    “The Philippines has a small window of opportunity to act now and stop a major HIV epidemic from taking hold,” said Eamonn Murphy, Director UNAIDS Regional Support Team for Asia-Pacific. “If HIV programming is re-directed to focus on the people most at risk and where they are located, I’m sure the country can not only return to a stable situation but even end the AIDS epidemic as a public health threat by 2030.”

    The Philippines has retooled its program to expand HIV services for males who have sex with males and transgender women and has opened clinics that cater specifically to their needs in urban areas, where the risk of HIV is higher. The strategy is to focus on 117 cities where 80% of the new infections have been reported and to open in each such city at least one HIV clinic which has convenient evening hours for working people, and is a one-stop shop that provides prevention, counseling, laboratory work-up, and treatment services. These are the Sundown clinics. The government has also taken measures towards enabling rapid HIV screening and delivery of test results.

    https://www.doh.gov.ph/node/10649

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  20. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Pyrphóros ⚡ Lux Aeterna
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    No, it does not. That is anti-scientific hogwash. Where did you learn this dangerous lie? Is that what the murderous psychopath, Duterte, is having people taught in your country? Anyone can get HIV and everyone has to protect themselves against it. Most people with HIV are heterosexuals who acquired it from hetero sex.
     
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    The question is why include it with other vices?
     
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