"The Matrix" Conspiracy Theory

The Illuminati (or the elites, or whatever you want to call them - perhaps "Them") know our reality is simulated and have done for decades. Maybe even centuries.

They commissioned The Matrix films for two reasons:

1) For the masses: to make them dismiss the notion of a simulated reality as fiction – to hide the truth from the public. This has obviously worked: Whenever one mentions the notion of reality being simulated someone always mentions The Matrix and then imminently dismisses it as fiction and ends the discussion! And whenever someone presents them with a simulist account they go "oh, that's already been done, that's The Matrix". This effectively shuts down any attempt to discuss or even think about Simulism. Because of this they will not come to believe reality is simulated before The Simulation wants them to.

2) For the intellectual class: To prepare them for the truth – by seeding the notion in the fertile ground of popular culture decades before the truth will out, to make the news of a simulated reality an easier and more familiar pill for them to swallow. It would then be their job to present the facts of the situation to the general public.

At some point in the future the world will come to know that reality is simulated. Because of The Matrix franchise the intellectuals would be familiar with the concept and would be prepared to influence how the masses would take the news - a thing that would have to be done carefully.

The truth is hidden in plain sight, and is seen as a fanciful fiction.

The Matrix film tho opening the door for Simulism, also pushes many concepts through at the same time, that limit the potential of the theory...

So most people on approaching it, assume simulated reality must be mechanized, rather than quantum organic technology.

That the CPU is somehow against them, when it is there giving beings a reality to exist within.

Thus these films that open perspectives up to the masses at least make them begin to question, even if after that they then perceive they're educated, as they watched a documentary at the movies.

In my opinion.

Eddi said:

The Illuminati (or the elites, or whatever you want to call them - perhaps "Them") know our reality is simulated and have done for decades. Maybe even centuries.

They commissioned The Matrix films...

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Do you have any evidence to support your theory? Or at least a path of reasoning that led from the Wachowskis to the Illuminati?

Eddi said:

The Illuminati (or the elites, or whatever you want to call them - perhaps "Them") know our reality is simulated and have done for decades. Maybe even centuries.

They commissioned The Matrix films for two reasons:

1) For the masses: to make them dismiss the notion of a simulated reality as fiction – to hide the truth from the public. This has obviously worked: Whenever one mentions the notion of reality being simulated someone always mentions The Matrix and then imminently dismisses it as fiction and ends the discussion! And whenever someone presents them with a simulist account they go "oh, that's already been done, that's The Matrix". This effectively shuts down any attempt to discuss or even think about Simulism. Because of this they will not come to believe reality is simulated before The Simulation wants them to.

2) For the intellectual class: To prepare them for the truth – by seeding the notion in the fertile ground of popular culture decades before the truth will out, to make the news of a simulated reality an easier and more familiar pill for them to swallow. It would then be their job to present the facts of the situation to the general public.

At some point in the future the world will come to know that reality is simulated. Because of The Matrix franchise the intellectuals would be familiar with the concept and would be prepared to influence how the masses would take the news - a thing that would have to be done carefully.

The truth is hidden in plain sight, and is seen as a fanciful fiction.

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In either case... why? If our reality is just a simulation, what difference does it make to people's daily lives whether they know it or not? And why would "they" care if people know or not?

Eddi said:

The Illuminati (or the elites, or whatever you want to call them - perhaps "Them") know our reality is simulated and have done for decades. Maybe even centuries.

They commissioned The Matrix films for two reasons:

1) For the masses: to make them dismiss the notion of a simulated reality as fiction – to hide the truth from the public. This has obviously worked: Whenever one mentions the notion of reality being simulated someone always mentions The Matrix and then imminently dismisses it as fiction and ends the discussion! And whenever someone presents them with a simulist account they go "oh, that's already been done, that's The Matrix". This effectively shuts down any attempt to discuss or even think about Simulism. Because of this they will not come to believe reality is simulated before The Simulation wants them to.

2) For the intellectual class: To prepare them for the truth – by seeding the notion in the fertile ground of popular culture decades before the truth will out, to make the news of a simulated reality an easier and more familiar pill for them to swallow. It would then be their job to present the facts of the situation to the general public.

At some point in the future the world will come to know that reality is simulated. Because of The Matrix franchise the intellectuals would be familiar with the concept and would be prepared to influence how the masses would take the news - a thing that would have to be done carefully.

The truth is hidden in plain sight, and is seen as a fanciful fiction.

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If you visit your local grocery store you can buy rolls of tinfoil and make as many hats as you need from it.

ChristineM said:

If you visit your local grocery store you can buy rolls of tinfoil and make as many hats as you need from it.

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I prefer aluminium foil. It's more abundant, costs less, and is a better conductor than tin.

Difference Between Aluminum and Tin | Difference Between

Kangaroo Feathers said:

If our reality is just a simulation, what difference does it make to people's daily lives whether they know it or not?

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As Yeshua was teaching, the CPU (God Most High) knows what we need, before we need it, and therefore can manifest it in reality, simply by expecting our prayers to be answered.

Kangaroo Feathers said:

And why would "they" care if people know or not?

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It isn't if they know; it is what they know... People being taught the CPU is against us, are being sent the opposite way.

In my opinion.

SalixIncendium said:

I prefer aluminium foil. It's more abundant, costs less, and is a better conductor than tin.

Difference Between Aluminum and Tin | Difference Between

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That was my bad, being raised in Lancashire aluminium foil was/is commonly called tinfoil. I simply reverted to my roots when writing the post.

SalixIncendium said:

Do you have any evidence to support your theory? Or at least a path of reasoning that led from the Wachowskis to the Illuminati?

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No evidence yet, at the moment it’s just a theory. And I lack the resources to research it. But I do have a line of reasoning:

The Wachowskis are a part of Hollywood and Hollywood is part of a system of social and cultural control that functions in the establishment’s interests – and the Illuminati works through them and is supported by them (the establishment), so as to maintain a certain social and cultural order conducive to their interests. They (the establishment and the brains of the operation, the Illuminati) want the world to be a certain way and they act to achieve this – I don’t think that’s a controversial or lunatic idea.

The Hollywood system isn’t just about the production of entertainment as a commodity – for profit. It also has an ideological function, a role to play serving the establishment's interests: to make the masses see and behave in a certain way. It can do this by promoting certain values in its films. And also ideas.

So in answer to your question, no evidence. But I think it makes sense and is at least plausible if you accept certain things. But I will say this: The Simulation could have acted directly upon the Wachowskis in the interests of the Illuminati, without anyone from the Illuminati being directly involved. In which case there’d be no need to implicate the Illuminati in the creation of the films. And no trail of evidence.

The production of The Matrix films was just the beginning – it both plants the idea and shuts down debate.

And yes, I am seeing a psychiatrist

Kangaroo Feathers said:

And why would "they" care if people know or not?

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Depends on who exactly you mean by “they”

It could cover:

1. Elites who live within The Simulation
2. The over-seers of The Simulation, who live in the outside world.

The elites are a concerned party as the revelation we are in a simulation would be a huge historical event and would change many things. And I think they’re pretty pleased with the world as it currently is - them in control. That’s why whether or not people know is of interest to them, as it would change how people relate to other people and to reality. They’d want a revelation to be managed so as to work out in a peaceful and ordered way, in accordance with their plans and interests. I say they’d care deeply.

The over-seers – the creators of The Simulation – may have decided that it’s time for humankind to know we are simulated, as a part of their greater plans for the inhabitants of The Simulation that they administer. We can only speculate as to their motives and why they care. I think the over-seers want people to know about The Simulation but that the elites are much more cautious.

Carefully seeding the notion of a simulated reality into the popular imagination would be in the interests of both the elites and the over-seers if there is to be an orderly revelation of reality’s simulation at a later date. The production of The Matrix films was just the beginning – it both plants the idea and shuts down debate.

Eddi said:

And yes, I am seeing a psychiatrist

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That psychiatrist needs to go see a psychiatrist.

Eddi said:

Depends on who exactly you mean by “they”

It could cover:

1. Elites who live within The Simulation
2. The over-seers of The Simulation, who live in the outside world.

The elites are a concerned party as the revelation we are in a simulation would be a huge historical event and would change many things. And I think they’re pretty pleased with the world as it currently is - them in control. That’s why whether or not people know is of interest to them, as it would change how people relate to other people and to reality. They’d want a revelation to be managed so as to work out in a peaceful and ordered way, in accordance with their plans and interests. I say they’d care deeply.

The over-seers – the creators of The Simulation – may have decided that it’s time for humankind to know we are simulated, as a part of their greater plans for the inhabitants of The Simulation that they administer. We can only speculate as to their motives and why they care. I think the over-seers want people to know about The Simulation but that the elites are much more cautious.

Carefully seeding the notion of a simulated reality into the popular imagination would be in the interests of both the elites and the over-seers if there is to be an orderly revelation of reality’s simulation at a later date. The production of The Matrix films was just the beginning – it both plants the idea and shuts down debate.

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...why? "Carefully seeding the notion of a simulated reality into the popular imagination would be in the interests of both the elites and the over-seers if there is to be an orderly revelation of reality’s simulation at a later date. " why would "they" want to reveal it? how would it benefit "them"?

Eddi said:

This has obviously worked: Whenever one mentions the notion of reality being simulated someone always mentions The Matrix and then imminently dismisses it as fiction and ends the discussion!

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That's just wrong. If anything, the films have become a reference point for arguing that we could be in some kind of simulation. I've never seen anyone dismiss the idea out of hand just because a film was made about it.

Eddi said:

To prepare them for the truth – by seeding the notion in the fertile ground of popular culture decades before the truth will out, to make the news of a simulated reality an easier and more familiar pill for them to swallow.

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Have you seen the films!? They present a terrifying prospect for both the human batteries blindly trapped in the Matrix and for the humans who "escape", only to be wiped out by the machines.

Eddi said:

No evidence yet, at the moment it’s just a theory.

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It isn't a theory. It isn't even a hypothesis. It's a vague idea about a tiny aspect of a much wider presumed hypothesis covering the existence of both some kind of "elites" and the existence of some kind of simulated reality. At the moment, they're just two of the massive assumptions behind you specific idea.

Kangaroo Feathers said:

...why? "Carefully seeding the notion of a simulated reality into the popular imagination would be in the interests of both the elites and the over-seers if there is to be an orderly revelation of reality’s simulation at a later date. " why would "they" want to reveal it? how would it benefit "them"?

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Regarding the overseers, why would they want everyone here on Earth to know we’re in a simulation? We can only speculate. But let’s not forget, they created humanity. Maybe they feel compassion for us? Perhaps now they think we are now advanced enough that we can join the outside world? I think they think that we have authentically developed with very little interference and are therefore real.

I think we are ready to become citizens of whatever republic (or monarchy) the over-seers are citizens of, in the outside world. I believe our Earth will join the outside state as some province or county, as an equal member – albeit one confined to a super-computer. That’s my thoughts on the issue.

How would they benefit? Regarding human elites, I think they understand that the over-seers want us to know and that there’s nothing they can do about it, so they may as well see that revelation is done in a controlled and deliberate manner and hope for the best.

Eddi said:

The Illuminati (or the elites, or whatever you want to call them - perhaps "Them") know our reality is simulated and have done for decades. Maybe even centuries.

They commissioned The Matrix films for two reasons:

1) For the masses: to make them dismiss the notion of a simulated reality as fiction – to hide the truth from the public. This has obviously worked: Whenever one mentions the notion of reality being simulated someone always mentions The Matrix and then imminently dismisses it as fiction and ends the discussion! And whenever someone presents them with a simulist account they go "oh, that's already been done, that's The Matrix". This effectively shuts down any attempt to discuss or even think about Simulism. Because of this they will not come to believe reality is simulated before The Simulation wants them to.

2) For the intellectual class: To prepare them for the truth – by seeding the notion in the fertile ground of popular culture decades before the truth will out, to make the news of a simulated reality an easier and more familiar pill for them to swallow. It would then be their job to present the facts of the situation to the general public.

At some point in the future the world will come to know that reality is simulated. Because of The Matrix franchise the intellectuals would be familiar with the concept and would be prepared to influence how the masses would take the news - a thing that would have to be done carefully.

The truth is hidden in plain sight, and is seen as a fanciful fiction.

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If you understood the "Illuminatti" you would know that they don't work that way. They don't 'assemble en masse and plot events'. In fact, they don't really even have an agenda beyond their own individual gain. They rarely know who is and isn't among them apart from the few in their immediate proximity. They have no leaders or special knowledge, and they do not deliberately conspire to effect the course of events any more than anyone else might do.

HonestJoe said:

That's just wrong. If anything, the films have become a reference point for arguing that we could be in some kind of simulation. I've never seen anyone dismiss the idea out of hand just because a film was made about it.

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In another post on this forum I set out a philosophy of life based around the assumption we are in a simulation. I think what I came up with worked. However it was derided on account of The Matrix being about a similar scenario, as though that makes my philosophy and beliefs any less true. The fact that The Matrix is based around similar beliefs was used to dismiss it and indeed the whole idea of Simulism.

I agree that it is "a reference point for arguing that we could be in some kind of simulation" but that the flow of truth is controlled and that on the other hand it functions to shut down debate and make people dismiss it as fantasy and sci-fi - so as to achieve a controlled balance and make the revelation that we are in a simulation a smooth one.

HonestJoe said:

Have you seen the films!? They present a terrifying prospect for both the human batteries blindly trapped in the Matrix and for the humans who "escape", only to be wiped out by the machines.

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I believe that people are less likely to buy into disturbing ideas than they are into positive and affirming ideas. I believe that’s human nature. Hence the films were made to be dark and disturbing to make people (irrationally) less likely to consider it. I believe the world outside this simulation is a futuristic utopia and that we are AI – not actual people plugged in as batteries.

Eddi said:

The Illuminati (or the elites, or whatever you want to call them - perhaps "Them") know our reality is simulated and have done for decades. Maybe even centuries.

They commissioned The Matrix films for two reasons:

1) For the masses: to make them dismiss the notion of a simulated reality as fiction – to hide the truth from the public. This has obviously worked: Whenever one mentions the notion of reality being simulated someone always mentions The Matrix and then imminently dismisses it as fiction and ends the discussion! And whenever someone presents them with a simulist account they go "oh, that's already been done, that's The Matrix". This effectively shuts down any attempt to discuss or even think about Simulism. Because of this they will not come to believe reality is simulated before The Simulation wants them to.

2) For the intellectual class: To prepare them for the truth – by seeding the notion in the fertile ground of popular culture decades before the truth will out, to make the news of a simulated reality an easier and more familiar pill for them to swallow. It would then be their job to present the facts of the situation to the general public.

At some point in the future the world will come to know that reality is simulated. Because of The Matrix franchise the intellectuals would be familiar with the concept and would be prepared to influence how the masses would take the news - a thing that would have to be done carefully.

The truth is hidden in plain sight, and is seen as a fanciful fiction.

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I was a Matrix fan, and for a time, I took an interest in a lot of the various fan theories about the franchise.

A few thoughts:

- The premise of the films were that the Machines were the creators of the Matrix, largely because they were once the slaves of Humans, who were cruel and abusive towards them. After a world war in which the sky was scorched (purportedly by Humans, although my theory is that the Machines did it and later lied that it was the Humans), the real world was uninhabitable. Creating the Matrix so that Humans could still live was, in effect, an act of compassion towards them. It also carried along one of the main themes of the franchise in that the Machines were created for a purpose, and without Humans, they would have no purpose. Everything must have a purpose.

- Humans may need to be in a simulated reality, since the actual "real world" is so desolate and frightening, most would just wither away and die if left in some wasteland of devastation. (I also note a similar theme in 2001: A Space Odyssey, which some suggest as the idea that "god is dead." Earth is like a tiny oasis in a cosmos which is dark, empty, lonely, and extremely frightening if someone was left alone in the middle of a vast nothingness.)

- There's the idea that humans need to be controlled for our own good. However, the flaw behind the "Illuminati" is that they're also human and no better than any of the humans they allegedly seek to control. They're just as flawed, as they're "only human," too. Machines, on the other hand, are seen as eminently objective, incapable of lying, fair, just - which would suggest that they're actually more enlightened than the "Illuminati." The idea may also extend to concepts of advanced aliens or gods. That's also what many religions seem to be based upon, the idea that our reality was "created" by some Higher Power - not necessarily a "simulation" in the computer sense, but a kind of controlled testing or proving ground, to see who is worthy of reaching the next level in our development.

I don't know if this has much to do with why The Matrix franchise was commissioned and released. More than likely, it was just as what it appears, as with any Hollywood films - a money-making enterprise. The "Illuminati" (or "ruling class," as I prefer to call them) are nothing more than flawed humans wanting more power and money, which seems to be hardwired into our baser nature. Greed is borne out of a fear of scarcity, and our lust for power is borne out of a fear of our own species.

So, in a very real sense, those who think of themselves as more enlightened and more powerful are really, deep down, very insecure and nothing more than a bunch of scaredy-cats. That would make them, in my eyes, the exact opposite of "enlightened."

Here might be the real creator of The Matrix:



So, the lesson here is, be nice to cats, since they're the ones who truly rule the world.

Stevicus said:

Here might be the real creator of The Matrix:

So, the lesson here is, be nice to cats, since they're the ones who truly rule the world.

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Our furry overlords have only our best interests at heart...

Clearly, our purpose is to open cans of cat food...and provide warm places to sleep...

Eddi said:

In another post on this forum I set out a philosophy of life based around the assumption we are in a simulation. I think what I came up with worked. However it was derided on account of The Matrix being about a similar scenario, as though that makes my philosophy and beliefs any less true. The fact that The Matrix is based around similar beliefs was used to dismiss it and indeed the whole idea of Simulism.

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No it wasn't. One reply asked the valid question of whether you came up with your idea before or after seeing the film (which you evaded). Isn't it possible that you were subconsciously influenced by the films (or similar fiction)?

Others were willing to discuss the concepts, you're just clearly not really interested is anything that isn't unconditionally supporting your ideas. You're ot going to get the validation you're seeking here and for the state of your health, that's a good thing.

Eddi said:

Hence the films were made to be dark and disturbing to make people (irrationally) less likely to consider it.

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That raises another flaw in your OP here, where you're suggesting the film both prevents people from realising the truth while at the same time allowing people to accept it.

Eddi said:

I believe the world outside this simulation is a futuristic utopia and that we are AI – not actual people plugged in as batteries.

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You can believe anything you like. You can't get angry when people question your extreme and elaborate beliefs because you preset absolutely zero evidence or justification for them.

If God the Father is real then why is the earth so magnificent as a work of art? because He is real but i have heard his voice and it sounds like a very calm and serene voice but not enough to be noticed as a man but a very subtle intelligent voice as He is always with me, so where do I go after I die? To Outer Heaven where angels dwell and no angel lives in Heaven but Outer Heaven is where they are as if humans could interact with angels in their realm then they would be killed as angels are too powerful but angels don't say this but humans don't really die they just go somewhere they want to be and as I know this, humanity is extremely special and have just as much power as angels so that being said, angels can be hurt but they can only be hurt by spiritual weapons as that is why it is called spiritual warfare as I'm dwelling among you as Gabriel The Chloraphim Archangel of Death as I'm a very busy angel ducking nuts and spiritual bullets and i'm still here as I have a secret but nobody can know it yet but if you all knew how old the universe really was then you would all be God........