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A Modest Proposal: Permission to be a Parent

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
They are elected. (Please go to the top of the thread and go through the first few pages. )
So you think the people who elected Trump are going to elect people who set good criteria for who gets to be a parent? I think your idea carries some worrying implications you haven't fully considered. ..
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
So you think the people who elected Trump are going to elect people who set good criteria for who gets to be a parent? I think your idea carries some worrying implications you haven't fully considered. ..
Could very well be. It only came to mind a few hours ago.

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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Hmmmm . . . . I don't recall it being in the Constitution.

Well, neither is the right to breathe air in the Constitution, but some things you just have to take as a given.

Yeah, I think those issues are suppose to be handled by Health and Human Services. It's motto being: "Improving the health, safety, and well-being of America."
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Yeah, I know. At least, one would think that our government is living up to its responsibilities to the people. But then it becomes a matter of politics and...well, you know how that goes.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Considering how poorly some children are raised and develop, through either neglect, ineptitude, or genetic defect, I believe people should first have to pass a qualifying test before being granted the ability to reproduce. Of course this would mean some kind of birth control device would have to be implanted in children---probably girls?---and then removed or disabled when permission to reproduce was granted.

Thoughts?

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Too invasive, although there is a core of a good idea in there.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Well, neither is the right to breathe air in the Constitution, but some things you just have to take as a given.
You mentioned passing "constitutional muster," as if would be a Constitutional issue.


Too invasive, although there is a core of a good idea in there.
Yeah, it is pretty radical. Actually, very radical, and is wholly impractical both in concept and execution. But wouldn't it be nice if only competent and healthy people were having children. ;)

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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Yeah, it is pretty radical. Actually, very radical, and is wholly impractical both in concept and execution. But wouldn't it be nice if only competent and healthy people were having children. ;)

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Sure. And the way to arrive there is not by forcing people. That way lies (more) lack of personal responsibility.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
You mentioned passing "constitutional muster," as if would be a Constitutional issue.
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It probably still would be. Either way, it would definitely be something. Any politician even hinting at such a thing would be tarred, feathered, and hung out to dry after the media outcry.
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
Godwin's Law! You're out!

Hello.

I take it you disagree? If the the Third Reich endured, a policy along these lines (aligned with their ideology) seems like a natural development.

Peace.
 

Sanzbir

Well-Known Member
How would it be misused?

Well, the organization running your test could, if unchecked, be allowed to create a test that, say, weeded out ideological opponents. Maybe if some evangelical Christians get control of the bureau they can make it so that atheists are not allowed to reproduce.

So, you got a system of checks and balances in mind to prevent something like that??
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Well, the organization running your test could, if unchecked, be allowed to create a test that, say, weeded out ideological opponents. Maybe if some evangelical Christians get control of the bureau they can make it so that atheists are not allowed to reproduce.

So, you got a system of checks and balances in mind to prevent something like that??
Hey, I just thought up this sucker yesterday. Let me at least first convene my checks and balances committee.

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Orbit

I'm a planet
Considering how poorly some children are raised and develop, through either neglect, ineptitude, or genetic defect, I believe people should first have to pass a qualifying test before being granted the ability to reproduce. Of course this would mean some kind of birth control device would have to be implanted in children---probably girls?---and then removed or disabled when permission to reproduce was granted.

Thoughts?

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My parents were inept and neglectful, but I turned out just fine. You never know what you are evidently considering to be "inferior" people can produce.

Why girls? Why not men, it's less invasive that way.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
My parents were inept and neglectful, but I turned out just fine. You never know what you are evidently considering to be "inferior" people can produce.
Never said a thing about being inferior, just, for whatever reason, unable. That you beat the odds and turned out just fine, is great, but I firmly believe your in a small minority.

Why girls? Why not men, it's less invasive that way.
How do you know?

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Orbit

I'm a planet
Never said a thing about being inferior, just, for whatever reason, unable. That you beat the odds and turned out just fine, is great, but I firmly believe your in a small minority.


How do you know?

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Because the female anatomy is such that a tubal ligation is a bigger deal than a vasectomy.
 
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