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Fool

Fool

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If a person dug deep enough within themselves could they split hell wide open?


Revelation 9:2
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.
 
savagewind

savagewind

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I do not know what splitting hell wide open means. If it means having no fear anymore then I believe the answer is yes.
 
Jedster

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Fool said:
If a person dug deep enough within themselves could they split hell wide open?


Revelation 9:2
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.
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My life experiences have show me (so far) that entering the border from light to (what I consider) darkness(Hell?) takes me to even more light(depth). I'm not sure how to explain this, but have experienced this in states of belief & non-belief.
 
Fool

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SalixIncendium said:
Can you expand on the meaning of this?
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heaven and hell can be states of mind. hell is generally associated with places of darkness. in someone's life it might be a place of darkness where anger festers into hatred.

some people believe you can split hell wide open with indirect consequences, or negative actions whose results were not foreseen.

so how about someone who intentionally opens the door, enters directly into the experience, and learns something about self?
 
Fool

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Jedster said:
My life experiences have show me (so far) that entering the border from light to (what I consider) darkness(Hell?) takes me to even more light(depth). I'm not sure how to explain this, but have experienced this in states of belief & non-belief.
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maybe because of the intent to learn something? to understand something vs just judging it?
 
SalixIncendium

SalixIncendium

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Fool said:
heaven and hell can be states of mind. hell is generally associated with places of darkness. in someone's life it might be a place of darkness where anger festers into hatred.

some people believe you can split hell wide open with indirect consequences, or negative actions whose results were not foreseen.

so how about someone who intentionally opens the door, enters directly into the experience, and learns something about self?
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Then yes. Realization and knowledge of one's Self can liberate one from such places of darkness by way of ego transcendence.
 
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Faithofchristian

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Fool said:
If a person dug deep enough within themselves could they split hell wide open?


Revelation 9:2
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.
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My question is, Where do you get the Abyss out of Revelation 9:2. When Revelation said "he open the bottomless pit, So the question is, What is this bottomless pit that the Locust army comes up out from in Revelation 9:2-3.
You really don't believe the Locust army comes up out from Abyss Universe?

If you look at Verse 3 you will find there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth.
Therefore the earth being in reference to the bottomless pit. That the locust army comes up out from upon the earth.

But the question is, Who are the Locust army?
 
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Fool

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Faithofchristian said:
My question is, Where do you get the Abyss out of Revelation 9:2. When Revelation said "he open the bottomless pit, So the question is, What is this bottomless pit that the Locust army comes up out from?
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we are what we assimilate within the body; whether the hidden manna or the deep secrets of satan, things of the light, or things of the darkness.

Revelation 2:24
Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you,


Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.

 
allfoak

allfoak

Alchemist
Fool said:
If a person dug deep enough within themselves could they split hell wide open?


Revelation 9:2
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.
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An excerpt from Manley P. Hall's book The Secret Teachings Of All Ages on the far-reaching ramifications of the Law of Octaves:





To Pythagoras music was one of the dependencies of the divine science of mathematics, and its harmonies were inflexibly controlled by mathematical proportions. The Pythagoreans averred that mathematics demonstrated the exact method by which the good established and maintained its universe. Number therefore preceded harmony, since it was the immutable law that governs all harmonic proportions. After discovering these harmonic ratios, Pythagoras gradually initiated his disciples into this, the supreme arcanum of his Mysteries. He divided the multitudinous parts of creation into a vast number of planes or spheres, to each of which he assigned a tone, a harmonic interval, a number, a name, a color, and a form. He then proceeded to prove the accuracy of his deductions by demonstrating them upon the different planes of intelligence and substance ranging from the most abstract logical premise to the most concrete geometrical solid. From the common agreement of these diversified methods of proof he established the indisputable existence of certain natural laws.

Having once established music as an exact science, Pythagoras applied his newly found law of harmonic intervals to all the phenomena of Nature, even going so far as to demonstrate the harmonic relationship of the planets, constellations, and elements to each other. A notable example of modern corroboration of ancient philosophical reaching is that of the progression of the elements according to harmonic ratios. While making a list of the elements in the ascending order of their atomic weights, John A. Newlands discovered at every eighth element a distinct repetition of properties. This discovery is known as the law of octaves in modern chemistry. Since they held that harmony must be determined not by the sense perceptions but by reason and mathematics, the Pythagoreans called themselves Canonics, as distinguished from musicians of the Harmonic School, who asserted taste and instinct to be the true normative principles of harmony. Recognizing, however, the profound effect of music upon the senses and emotions, Pythagoras did not hesitate to influence the mind and body with what he termed "musical medicine." (The Secret Teachings Of All The Ages, by Manley P. Hall).
 
Twilight Hue

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Fool said:
If a person dug deep enough within themselves could they split hell wide open?


Revelation 9:2
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.
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Best to stay away from volcanoes.
 
David T

David T

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Fool said:
Essential Secrets of Psychotherapy: What is the "Shadow"?


Can You See Your Shadow?


Carl Jung on the Shadow
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Socrates alludes to this as being the only thing we generally see. What is ink on paper? What are words on screen? We can create a whole bunch of words on screen about words on screen, and they are shadows on cave wall. we can believe we really understand shadows on cave wall based on shadow on cave wall.

This whole experience of understanding this becomes a feeling I am talking to really really really intelligent cavemen. Not everyone fool just mostly. Btw socrates played the fool, when he talked to the fools.
 
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Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Fool said:
If a person dug deep enough within themselves could they split hell wide open?


Revelation 9:2
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.
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ah yes!....exploration of the id

Freud would be proud of your post
 
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