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Why Has Trump Refused to Sanction Russia as Required by Law?

Nous

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In a historic show of unity, Congress passed the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act in late July. The vote in the Senate was 98-2, and 419-3 in the House. Trump signed the bill on August 2nd. Obviously Congress could have easily overridden a veto.

As you can see, the Act singles out the Russian Federation for the most extensive sanctions, including: on corrupt financial institutions; relating to activities that undermine cybersecurity of the US; relating to human rights abusers; and in response to corrupt practices with respect to Ukraine. The law also requires a variety of reports to be submitted to Congress.

Section 252 identifies the importance of these sanctions to our obligations under NATO:

(3) the Government of the Russian Federation has applied, and continues to apply, to the countries and peoples of Georgia and Ukraine, traditional uses of force, intelligence operations, and influence campaigns, which represent clear and present threats to the countries of Europe and Eurasia;
(4) in response, the countries of Europe and Eurasia should redouble efforts to build resilience within their institutions, political systems, and civil societies;
(5) the United States supports the institutions that the Government of the Russian Federation seeks to undermine, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union;
(6) a strong North Atlantic Treaty Organization is critical to maintaining peace and security in Europe and Eurasia;
(7) the United States should continue to work with the European Union as a partner against aggression by the Government of the Russian Federation, coordinating aid programs, development assistance, and other counter-Russian efforts;​

Trump has done nothing to abide by the imposition of sanctions against Russia. Why?

Senators John McCain and Ben Cardin wrote Trump a letter on September 28, reminding him of the October 1st deadline, and outlining those most urgent sanctions. I urge you to read it. They also asked for a briefing by the Departments of State and Treasury to provide them with the sanctions plan.

On October 11, McCain and Cardin released a statement, in which they say (inter alia):

“The delay calls into question the Trump administration’s commitment to the sanctions bill which was signed into law more than two months ago, following months of public debate and negotiations in Congress. They’ve had plenty of time to get their act together.

“In addition to the administration’s lack of responsiveness on this deadline, there does not appear to be a significant diplomatic effort to engage our allies in Europe and lead an effort to increase pressure on Moscow. Congressional intent was clear, reflected in the overwhelming bipartisan majority in favor of the legislation.​

Yet, here on the 13th, there has apparently been no response whatsoever from the administration. Again why?

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires that the President “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”. Refusing to do so--whether because he has personal obligations or financial incentives not to do so--is a dereliction of his duty under the Constitution, which is unequivocally an impeachable offense.

Comments? Arguments?
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
In a historic show of unity, Congress passed the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act in late July. The vote in the Senate was 98-2, and 419-3 in the House. Trump signed the bill on August 2nd. Obviously Congress could have easily overridden a veto.

As you can see, the Act singles out the Russian Federation for the most extensive sanctions, including: on corrupt financial institutions; relating to activities that undermine cybersecurity of the US; relating to human rights abusers; and in response to corrupt practices with respect to Ukraine. The law also requires a variety of reports to be submitted to Congress.

Section 252 identifies the importance of these sanctions to our obligations under NATO:

(3) the Government of the Russian Federation has applied, and continues to apply, to the countries and peoples of Georgia and Ukraine, traditional uses of force, intelligence operations, and influence campaigns, which represent clear and present threats to the countries of Europe and Eurasia;
(4) in response, the countries of Europe and Eurasia should redouble efforts to build resilience within their institutions, political systems, and civil societies;
(5) the United States supports the institutions that the Government of the Russian Federation seeks to undermine, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union;
(6) a strong North Atlantic Treaty Organization is critical to maintaining peace and security in Europe and Eurasia;
(7) the United States should continue to work with the European Union as a partner against aggression by the Government of the Russian Federation, coordinating aid programs, development assistance, and other counter-Russian efforts;​

Trump has done nothing to abide by the imposition of sanctions against Russia. Why?

Senators John McCain and Ben Cardin wrote Trump a letter on September 28, reminding him of the October 1st deadline, and outlining those most urgent sanctions. I urge you to read it. They also asked for a briefing by the Departments of State and Treasury to provide them with the sanctions plan.

On October 11, McCain and Cardin released a statement, in which they say (inter alia):

“The delay calls into question the Trump administration’s commitment to the sanctions bill which was signed into law more than two months ago, following months of public debate and negotiations in Congress. They’ve had plenty of time to get their act together.

“In addition to the administration’s lack of responsiveness on this deadline, there does not appear to be a significant diplomatic effort to engage our allies in Europe and lead an effort to increase pressure on Moscow. Congressional intent was clear, reflected in the overwhelming bipartisan majority in favor of the legislation.​

Yet, here on the 13th, there has apparently been no response whatsoever from the administration. Again why?

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires that the President “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”. Refusing to do so--whether because he has personal obligations or financial incentives not to do so--is a dereliction of his duty under the Constitution, which is unequivocally an impeachable offense.

Comments? Arguments?

We can speculate, but we won't know a lot until the investigation of the Trump campaign and admintsration is concluded.

If he fails to follow the law he signed, we'll have to consider what consequences are going to be, and how it ties into the results of the investigation. . . in January, 2019 when the new congress convenes.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We can speculate, but we won't know a lot until the investigation of the Trump campaign and admintsration is concluded.

If he fails to follow the law he signed, we'll have to consider what consequences are going to be, and how it ties into the results of the investigation. . . in January, 2019 when the new congress convenes.
Yes, I only mentioned the "Take Care" Clause to remind everyone that the President has obligation to faithfully execute the laws. I definitely do not advocate any movement on impeachment until Mueller's investigation is complete, which likely won't be before the new Congress is in place. Trump's dereliction of duty to faithfully execute the laws is just another article in the articles of impeachment.

But it's difficult for me to figure out why he has refused to abide by this overwhelmingly supported bipartisan law to impose sanctions on Russia except for some personal obligation or financial incentive not to impose these sanctions.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
(3) the Government of the Russian Federation has applied, and continues to apply, to the countries and peoples of Georgia and Ukraine, traditional uses of force, intelligence operations, and influence campaigns, which represent clear and present threats to the countries of Europe and Eurasia;
(4) in response, the countries of Europe and Eurasia should redouble efforts to build resilience within their institutions, political systems, and civil societies;
(5) the United States supports the institutions that the Government of the Russian Federation seeks to undermine, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union;
(6) a strong North Atlantic Treaty Organization is critical to maintaining peace and security in Europe and Eurasia;
(7) the United States should continue to work with the European Union as a partner against aggression by the Government of the Russian Federation, coordinating aid programs, development assistance, and other counter-Russian efforts;

What part of this has Trump failed to do?
 
If Trump enforces sanctions against Russia, then I suspect the Russians will do everything they can to cut off the trump organizations foreign funding. Since no bank in the u.s. will deal with the trump organization.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
That part wasn't what Trump was required to do. All that is detailed in the first link that Nous gave.

But a specific section has been cited in the OP. I want to know what part of that had Trump not fulfilled? Otherwise why point out that specific section?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
But a specific section has been cited in the OP. I want to know what part of that had Trump not fulfilled? Otherwise why point out that specific section?
He hasn't gotten around to actually doing it. He signed the bill, but missed the deadline to act. He's also not doing much to work with European allies in dealing with Russia, which the bill also mandates.
If that's how he did business, it's no wonder why he is named in so many lawsuits.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires that the President “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed”. Refusing to do so--whether because he has personal obligations or financial incentives not to do so--is a dereliction of his duty under the Constitution, which is unequivocally an impeachable offense.
If he is impeached, I really hope it happens so late in his term that nobody even has enough time left to write Pence's name in the history books, baring Pence from being able to turn America from a Conservative theocracy.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
But a specific section has been cited in the OP. I want to know what part of that had Trump not fulfilled? Otherwise why point out that specific section?
If you had actually read the OP, you would have known that this section was quoted because it explains the importance of the sanctions.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
He hasn't gotten around to actually doing it. He signed the bill, but missed the deadline to act. He's also not doing much to work with European allies in dealing with Russia, which the bill also mandates.
If that's how he did business, it's no wonder why he is named in so many lawsuits.

Where is evidence or proof of this?
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
The claim that the OP says what it says?

Are you feeling okay?

All I see is 2 politicians who don't like Trump trying to get some publicity. There could be a number of issues related to why it has not been enforced yet. The assertion is that Trump is interfering by not enforcing the sanctions. That assertion needs evidence or else its just conjecture.

What I am asking for is evidence that it is Trump stopping the process instead of it being hung up in redtape or for some other reason. The govt is infamous for moving slow on most issues. This is not groundbreaking news.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
(3) the Government of the Russian Federation has applied, and continues to apply, to the countries and peoples of Georgia and Ukraine, traditional uses of force, intelligence operations, and influence campaigns, which represent clear and present threats to the countries of Europe and Eurasia;
(4) in response, the countries of Europe and Eurasia should redouble efforts to build resilience within their institutions, political systems, and civil societies;
(5) the United States supports the institutions that the Government of the Russian Federation seeks to undermine, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union;
(6) a strong North Atlantic Treaty Organization is critical to maintaining peace and security in Europe and Eurasia;
(7) the United States should continue to work with the European Union as a partner against aggression by the Government of the Russian Federation, coordinating aid programs, development assistance, and other counter-Russian efforts;
What part of this has Trump failed to do?
Wow. Are you just not able to read and comprehend what is written in black and white? If you were able to read and comprehend, you would understand that what I quoted from the statute are not sanctions. As I clearly noted, that list of items merely articulates the relationship between the statute and our obligations under NATO. @9-10ths_Penguin explained all this quite well.

I linked to the statute for a reason: so that people could click on it and read the statute. If you had done so and were able to comprehend it, you would see that the the sanctions against the Russian Federation are spelled out in §§ 224-236:

SEC. 224. IMPOSITION OF SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO ACTIVITIES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION UNDERMINING CYBERSECURITY.

SEC. 225. IMPOSITION OF SANCTIONS RELATING TO SPECIAL RUSSIAN CRUDE OIL PROJECTS.

SEC. 226. IMPOSITION OF SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO RUSSIAN AND OTHER FOREIGN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

SEC. 227. MANDATORY IMPOSITION OF SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO SIGNIFICANT CORRUPTION IN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

SEC. 228. MANDATORY IMPOSITION OF SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN TRANSACTIONS WITH FOREIGN SANCTIONS EVADERS AND SERIOUS HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSERS IN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

SEC. 229. NOTIFICATIONS TO CONGRESS UNDER UKRAINE FREEDOM SUPPORT ACT OF 2014.

SEC. 230. STANDARDS FOR TERMINATION OF CERTAIN SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

SEC. 231. IMPOSITION OF SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO PERSONS ENGAGING IN TRANSACTIONS WITH THE INTELLIGENCE OR DEFENSE SECTORS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

SEC. 232. SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF PIPELINES IN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

SEC. 233. SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO INVESTMENT IN OR FACILITATION OF PRIVATIZATION OF STATE-OWNED ASSETS BY THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

SEC. 234. SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE TRANSFER OF ARMS AND RELATED MATERIEL TO SYRIA.

SEC. 235. SANCTIONS DESCRIBED.

SEC. 236. EXCEPTIONS, WAIVER, AND TERMINATION.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There could be a number of issues related to why it has not been enforced yet.
There is no Constitutional justification for a President to refuse to "take care to faithfully execute the laws".

The assertion is that Trump is interfering by not enforcing the sanctions. That assertion needs evidence or else its just conjecture.
It's rare to come across someone so clueless.

Senators McCain and Cardin wrote the President a letter on September 28 reminding him of the October 1 deadline to begin implementing the Russian sanctions, and they requested a briefing from the State and Treasury Departments to advise them of the sanctions plan.

There was no response from anyone in the administration, and Trump failed to do what the law required him to do by October 1. That why McCain and Cardin issued the press release on October 11, ten days past the deadline, in which they said:

“The delay calls into question the Trump administration’s commitment to the sanctions bill which was signed into law more than two months ago, following months of public debate and negotiations in Congress. They’ve had plenty of time to get their act together.

“In addition to the administration’s lack of responsiveness on this deadline, there does not appear to be a significant diplomatic effort to engage our allies in Europe and lead an effort to increase pressure on Moscow. Congressional intent was clear, reflected in the overwhelming bipartisan majority in favor of the legislation.

“We wrote the Administration on September 28, strongly urging them to develop a robust and comprehensive implementation plan for all aspects of the law and to work in close consultation with Congress to ensure a fulsome reflection of congressional intent. We again request that the administration respond to our letter, and engage Congress in a serious way moving forward.”​

SENATORS McCAIN & CARDIN QUESTION ADMINISTRATION DELAY IN RUSSIA SANCTIONS IMPLEMENTATION - Press Releases - United States Senator John McCain
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If he is impeached, I really hope it happens so late in his term that nobody even has enough time left to write Pence's name in the history books, baring Pence from being able to turn America from a Conservative theocracy.
Of course, if Trump is impeached and removed (and assuming my fantasy does not happen where Pence is impeached and removed at the same time), then Pence will become President, and I do not have the slightest doubt that he will run in the next election. But he is undoubtedly going to be tainted both by the Mueller investigation and the fact that he was the vice-president chosen by an impeached and removed President.

In any case, the fear you have expressed about Pence turning the US into "a Conservative theocracy" isn't a realistic fear. Presidents don't have such power.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yet, here on the 13th, there has apparently been no response whatsoever from the administration. Again why?

I suspect that you are thinking the same thing I am:

It's been speculated all along Putin has the goods on Trump and is blackmailing him. It is also said that the sanctions are costing Putin billions personally, and that this was one of Putin's chief interests in tampering with the election and seating a compromised Trump.

Trump's reaction is consistent with this interpretation. This reaction or a veto would be expected were that the case, whereas signing and enforcing the legislation is what an independent president working in America's interest would do. Trump has no apparent legitimate reason to behave as he has.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
But he is undoubtedly going to be tainted both by the Mueller investigation and the fact that he was the vice-president chosen by an impeached and removed President.
I can only hope Mueller can find something to taint and destroy him.
In any case, the fear you have expressed about Pence turning the US into "a Conservative theocracy" isn't a realistic fear. Presidents don't have such power.
As hard as he fought for that in Indiana, it has been very realistic to me. He cares not that America is secular, and given half a chance would replace evolution with creationism in public school science classes and bring back public school led prayer. And as president, the one thing Pence would have that he didn't have as governor is a Congress that stands behind their "champion" of Conservative values.
 
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