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Muslim opinions of Israel

Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Is it typical for Muslims to have a negative opinion of Israel? If you are Muslim, do you have anything to say about Israel?

Maybe Israel is not something the average Muslim thinks about.

I'm just curious about whether or not the average Muslim resents Israel or has an opinion one way or the other. Feel free to share a good YouTube if you have one. Thanks for your input. :)
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Suffice to say that the vast majority of Muslims have a fairly low opinion of Israel.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
In my opinion, Israel brings some sanity to a middle East that wants to live in the dark ages.

It's one blood bath, car bomb, or shooting of innocent people in the Arab world after another.

ISIS will be destroyed and then some other regime will rise up to shed innocent blood. Arabs realize they can't phase the Jews so they resort to oppressing and killing other Arabs.

The middle East is disgusting. Israel brings sanity and Democracy to a region where behavior is bloodthirsty and barbaric! I :heart: Israel. I pray for Israel and hope God gives them the Messiah they have been patiently waiting for.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I did however see a video on what life is like in the west Bank. It's like a prison. It's very sad people must live like that.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Mohsen said:
Maybe ;)

Like how 90% of so called returnees are secular atheist but believe God gave them the land - I still can't get my head around that!
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I've heard that... I've read mixed reports on what percent of Jews are secular.

If you are correct, why did Allah not give victory to the Arabs? They had Israel pitifully outnumbered and were armed with modern weapons from Russia.

Wouldn't it have been easy for Allah to grant his Arab followers victory? If Allah doesn't care for his own people who pray to him five times a day on their face and fast during Ramadan , what makes you think Allah really cares or is trustworthy?
 
Mohsen

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
PopeADope said:
I've heard that... I've read mixed reports on what percent of Jews are secular.

If you are correct, why did Allah not give victory to the Arabs? They had Israel pitifully outnumbered and were armed with modern weapons from Russia.

Wouldn't it have been easy for Allah to grant his Arab followers victory? If Allah doesn't care for his own people who pray to him five times a day on their face and fast during Ramadan , what makes you think Allah really cares or is trustworthy?
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Israel isn't an holy place for Muslims - we can fulfil the rights and obligations of Islam without Israel, al quds, etc

We have Mecca and Medina for our pilgrimage and so your question doesn't really prove or disapprove anything. In other words, the question you ask, is not a good one. Consider revising.

Peace
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
The Muslim I live with doesn't know anything about Israel.

I didn't know if it is common for Muslims to not have an opinion about Israel or not. Just curious...
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Mohsen said:
Israel isn't an holy place for Muslims - we can fulfil the rights and obligations of Islam without Israel, al quds, etc

We have Mecca and Medina for our pilgrimage and so your question doesn't really prove or disapprove anything. In other words, the question you ask, is not a good one. Consider revising.

Peace
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All Arab nations ganged up on Israel and declared a holy war. It is a topic and land very important to Arabs. The same question applies, why did Allah want the Arabs to lose?
 
Mohsen

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
PopeADope said:
All Arab nations ganged up on Israel and declared a holy war. It is a topic and land very important to Arabs. The same question applies, why did Allah want the Arabs to lose?
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All this was prophesied popeadope, do you believe in prophecy? Even if it is from the Muslim faith?

I can show you prophecies which will blow your mind - for example - in the Quran chapter al anbiyah ayahs 95/96 spell it clearly:

And there is prohibition upon [the people of] a city which We have destroyed that they will [ever] return

Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend

Traditionally the "city" in question has been named as Jerusalem. And this verse is foretelling of the end time when the world is ruled by inequity and injustice among mankind - there are other verses too as well as ahadeeth which flesh out the skeletal understanding of the judeo-christian childlike hubris on these matters.

Peace
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Okay, I'll revise the question, why do Muslims lose every holy war against more secular nations? Isn't it easy for Allah to give his followers victory?
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Okay, I get your answer, it is a fulfillment of prophecy.

However, it is clear that Allah wants all this evil in our world.
 
Mohsen

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
PopeADope said:
Okay, I'll revise the question, why do Muslims lose every holy war against more secular nations? Isn't it easy for Allah to give his followers victory?
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These aren't holy wars you are claiming !!! They are wholly political and secular and Muslims are being pulled into them because they are happening inside of nations that are majority Muslim !!!

There you go.

Contextualise your premise young blood!
 
Mohsen

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
PopeADope said:
Okay, I get your answer, it is a fulfillment of prophecy.

However, it is clear that Allah wants all this evil in our world.
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Allah, the creator of Jesus - yes! The question you need to ask is "why?"

And that's when things get very interesting, for you.

Peace
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Mohsen said:
These aren't holy wars you are claiming !!! They are wholly political and secular and Muslims are being pulled into them because they are happening inside of nations that are majority Muslim !!!

There you go.

Contextualise your premise young blood!
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These are holy wars because they are Jihads, which is a "holy war"...and Allah's people who pray to him five times a day and fast are defeated, while the more secular powers are given victory.

It just doesn't seem like Allah is on your side when he refuses to lift a finger to help his followers
 
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