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Xmas vs Christmas
- Thread starter Rex
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Green Gaia
Veteran Member
logos took my answer 
lol
lol 
That is both a non sequitur and a presumption. It is cleary offensive to some Christians.logos said:
A couple of suggestions: (a) don't shout, and (b) learn what the term 'secular' means.Ronald said:
:help:Ronald said:
You probably meant "Yeshua bar Yoseph".Ronald said:
godischange
Member
WEll it obviously matters to some people. Not to me, but to each his own. I just always thought Americans called it Xmas because they were too lazy to write the whole word out. It is much faster that way. Just a little shortcut for those of us whose signature includes the first letter of their name and some scribbles.
Ceridwen018
Well-Known Member
LOL. All of you have these really in depth explanations...mine is a little shallower. I've always thought that the 'X' in Xmas doesn't mean 'to put an X over Christ' or something like that, but rather acts as 'criss-cross'. Because Christmas is usually pronounced 'criss-mis', the X stands for 'criss', and therefore is an acceptable shortcut.
Much like Cross-country running. Often I write it as x-country if I'm in a hurry. Get it? criss-cross?
Much like Cross-country running. Often I write it as x-country if I'm in a hurry. Get it? criss-cross?
cvipertooth
Member
ummmmmm.....some little kid couldnt spell christmas and, like all little kids do, spelled it in some weird way that doesnt look anything like the original. But could lord look what that little kid started. But really, "X", which is really an "X" with a circle around it (but we dont have that letter do we) does stand for christos.
Bastet
Vile Stove-Toucher
I've always considered 'Xmas' to merely be shorthand for 'Christmas'. I do know some people who are offended by the use of 'Xmas', so I try not to use it in my correspondence to them. Over the years, I've been leaning toward the same opinion as Jensa - 'Xmas' is the corporate holiday, and 'Christmas' is the religious one. I must be getting cynical in my old age lol.
Over the years, I've been leaning toward the same opinion as Jensa - 'Xmas' is the corporate holiday, and 'Christmas' is the religious one. I must be getting cynical in my old age lol. Sorry, you are offended by my writings, you could put me on "Ignore"Deut. 32.8 said:A couple of suggestions: (a) don't shout, and (b) learn what the term 'secular' means.
:help:
You probably meant "Yeshua bar Yoseph".
I do know secular, also ben(Hebrew), I used them just as I meant them. Thank you.:162: Yeshua ben Yoseph. Worldly, profane, heathen. not sacred.
It is really sad that some folk can't just read English as it is written and comment on the content, not questioning whether the writer is as brilliant as you are.
I am fine being a little dim.
Yes, I know.logos said:
By my logic? I never suggested that those who find XMas offensive are being logical. But neither is it logical (or even coherent) to suggest that a term or phrase is not offensive because of its dictionary meaning or etymology, e.g.,logos said:
"Colored People" is offensive to many while "People of Color" is not.
What is perceived as offensive is a function of the perceived intent of the communication: those who accept XMAS as a benign abbreviation take no offense while those who view it as disrespectful take another view.
So do I, also bar(Aramaic). Unfortunately, when you yell ...Ronald said:
NO! Both are SECULAR, neither are Biblical.
you define 'SECULAR' (and even 'secular') as 'extra-Biblical', which is simply inaccurate, as was your contrived reference to "Yeshua ben Joseph".You're most welcome. :tsk: Yeshua bar Yosef (or, if you're a perfectionist, and given his purported roots in Galilee), Yeshu' bar Yosef.Ronald said:
And I'm fine with you being the way you are. Thanks for not shouting.Ronald said:
Well, it is due in large part to confusion by those that hold that Xmas is offensive. They feel as though Xmas takes "Christ out of Christmas," yet the X still represents Christ. So, for those that believe that Xmas takes Christ out of Christmas realize it does not, rather, it is "shorthand" for the same wordDeut. 32.8 said: