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Do Not Believe All You Read In The Holy Books.

Observation shows that human creative activity has a physical, a social and a spiritual aspect. (By human creative activity I mean useful and constructive activity by human beings). The physical aspect of our creative activity concerns our activity in relation to the physical universe. The social aspect relates mainly to human behaviour and interaction amongst humans. The spiritual aspect of our creative activity primarily concerns our activity in relation to God. Over time, mankind has acquired considerable knowledge of the physical universe. This knowledge has been classified as the physical and natural sciences. Knowledge we have acquired of human behaviour and interaction amongst humans has been classified as social science. This has not been the case with knowledge we have of the spiritual aspect of life. Such knowledge has not been classified as spiritual science. This is so because much of what at present constitute spiritual facts and beliefs cannot be considered as science. A lot of such facts are not backed by proof and many of the beliefs are not founded on reason. Unverifiable conjectures about phenomena and existence beyond this life are professed as truths. The situation at present is such that spiritual works available to us contain fiction, misconceptions, superstition and falsehood in addition to actual facts. I will use some examples from the Christian teaching and Holy Bible to illustrate this point.

Consider the Bible account of the creation of Man and his fall from grace, (the Bible, Genesis 2:7-24 3:1-24).

We are told that God created Adam and Eve and established them in the Garden of Eden where He had made adequate provisions for their needs. All went well until the serpent came along and deceived them into disobeying God. The act of disobedience in the Garden of Eden caused Adam and Eve to lose favour with God. Christians believe that the sinfulness of Adam and Eve subsequently passed on to all generations of mankind. That, in their thinking, is responsible for mankind’s fall from grace and the human proneness to commit sin. The Christian concept of original sin which is that sinfulness is a part of mankind’s nature is founded on this Bible story.

Now let us examine this Bible account rationally. It has been scientifically established that mankind has inhabited the earth for over a million years. The coming into existence of the human being is, therefore, a primeval event that is prehistoric and immemorial. Surely, any account of this even cannot be anything but an invention. Moreover, the incidents related in this Bible story are inconsistent with natural phenomena. God does not talk. Snakes do not have the faculty of speech. Knowledge is not gained by eating the fruit of a tree, neither is it possible to attain everlasting life in this way. This tale, by all indications, is only a Jewish fable. It is not a true account of real events. However, Christianity accepts it as a factual historical event and has built its all-important concept of original sin on it. Clearly, this is a case of fiction being passed for fact.

Let us go on to consider the concepts of heaven and hell as propagated by the Christian faith. Heaven, we are told, is the home of God where people who do God’s will on earth will spend eternity with Him in bliss. Hell, on the other hand, is the place of punishment where those who lived sinful lives will suffer everlasting torment after death.

Now let us think seriously about these issues. God does not have physical substance, God is spirit. Because spirit has no physical limitations, God is everywhere at all times. In other words, God has infinite presence. Since God is infinite in expanse, so to speak, it does not make sense to say that God has a particular place of residence. The concept of home is a physical concept which has no application in the spiritual realm. Reason clearly shows that heaven, in actual fact, does not exist.

And to the question of hell. Forgiveness is a cardinal moral principle of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ in his teachings stated unequivocally that we should always forgive others no matter how many times they offend us. If one desires to commune with God, one must have a forgiving heart, he taught. How then can we think of God as being so unforgiving as to establish a place of everlasting torment for those who go against His will. The very idea of hell implies that God is wicked and unchristian. It is, without doubt, a misconception to associate God who is infinitely good with such a cruel idea. In reality, heaven and hell are misconceptions that have passed for spiritual facts.

Let us now consider superstition in the Bible. The gospel tells us about a father who brought his epileptic son to Jesus Christ for healing, (Luke 9:37-43). The account says that Jesus rebuked the demon in the boy. It came out of him and the boy was instantly cured.

Let us examine this report in the light of our knowledge of medical science. Epilepsy is a nervous disease and we know from medical science that demons are not responsible for illness. There is actually no proof that evil spirits exist. The belief in their existence and that they are responsible for ailments is irrational. Such belief amounts to superstition.

And now to the matter of falsehood in the Bible. We shall examine the Bible account of the conception of Jesus Christ by the Holy Ghost and the reports of his resurrection and ascension.

Knowledge is usually brought to mankind through people of high intelligence. In some cases such people are gifted with extra-ordinary mental or creative abilities. People like this, referred to as men of genius, very often take us to new levels in knowledge of the universe. One such person was the mathematical genius, Albert Einstein, who brought us exciting new knowledge of the physical universe. Jesus Christ belonged to this class of people. He was a luminary who made revolutionary contributions to spiritual knowledge. Unfortunately, the Jewish educated class of his time did not understand or accept him. That probably explains why he chose his disciples from amongst the uneducated, fishermen and the like. These followers, who obviously were not men of high intelligence, did not recognize him for what he was which was simply a man of extra-ordinary mental abilities and l! earning. His remarkable accomplishments were, rather, what made profound impressions on them. It is reported that he healed all manner of sickness, raised the dead, and fed thousands of people with few loaves and pieces of fish. We are told that he walked on water, waves became still at his command and a fig tree that he cursed withered. They (his followers) were awed by these incidents and began to perceive him as a deity. Jesus Christ noticed this idolization and at the end of one of his sermons said to his followers and the crowd present, (Luke 6: 46-49).

"Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’ and not do what I tell you? Every one who comes to me and hears my words and does them, I will show you what he is like, he is like a man building a house, who dug deep, and laid the foundation upon rock and when the flood arose, the stream broke against that house and could not shake it, because it has been well built. But he who hears and does not do them is ike a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation against which the stream broke, and immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great".

Jesus Christ was clearly not happy that he was being idolized while little attention was paid to his message. He was just a genius who had used his extra-ordinary talent to gain profound spiritual knowledge. His primary concern was to impart this knowledge to others. His desire was for people to listen, learn and practice what he was teaching them.

After his death, however, his followers who did not fully understand him or his work declared him deity. To lend credence to this claim, they presented us with the story of his conception by the Holy Ghost and the tales of his resurrection and ascension.

Let us now subject these things to logical reasoning. Spirit does not have physical substance. A thing that does not have physical substance cannot be divided, reproduced, split or apportioned into two or more separate and different units. Spirit, therefore, cannot exist in the form of separate and individual entities. This means that you cannot have one spirit called, say, Michael, separate and different from another spirit called, say, Gabriel, separate and different from another one called, say, Satan, etc. Existence in this form is a physical phenomenon that does not occur in the spiritual realm. It logically follows that there can be only one spirit in existence. That spirit is God. Clearly, no Holy Ghost exists and Mary the mother of Jesus was not made pregnant by any such spirit

Logical reasoning has shown that there can be only one spirit in existence and also that heaven does not exist. Going by these conclusions, the tales of the resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ do not make sense. If there can be only one spirit in existence, what then did Jesus Christ become after he resurrected? If heaven does not exist, where then did he ascend to? The claims of a resurrection and an ascension are inconsistent with logically established spiritual realities.

The Bible account of the conception of Jesus Christ by the Holy Ghost and the reports of his resurrection and ascension are definitely falsehood.

The occurrence of untruths, conjectures and fallacies in current spiritual teachings is not peculiar to the Christian faith. I have found a high incidence of this flaw in other spiritual works and teachings. I hope my spiritual works will help clarify matters and enable mankind to gain full spiritual enlightenment.

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This is an excerpt from the book, Spiritual Science by Emmanuel Emezie.
 

evearael

Well-Known Member
Observation shows that human creative activity has a physical, a social and a spiritual aspect.
This is opinion, not fact.

Such knowledge has not been classified as spiritual science.
...and rightfully so because different fields require different methodologies.

Surely, any account of this even cannot be anything but an invention.
It is arrogance to presume that all with faith take a strictly literalist view of the event that transpire in any holy book.

God does not talk.
You write of things that cannot be known or proven with any scientific method.
And you contradict yourself:
God is spirit. Because spirit has no physical limitations

demons are not responsible for illness
How on earth do you deduce that? There is no way to prove whether or not there is a spiritual force at work in an illness. This statement is irrelevant.

Logical reasoning has shown that there can be only one spirit in existence and also that heaven does not exist.
This has not been demonstrated. Show me the proof that would pass the stringent scientific requirements that a scientific law would pass.

Furthermore I think it is interesting that you didn't post this part of your work:
"God has endowed me with extra-ordinary mental abilities."
http://thephantomwriters.com/free_content/d/e/in-the-holy-books.shtml
 

evearael

Well-Known Member
...and he is asking for faith in his word without any valid scientific evidence, which makes him no better or worse than the religion he attempts to prove: in this case, Christianity. Though Christianity has several thousand years of history behind it, with many brilliant theologians behind it and about a third of the global population (as of 2000, http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm).
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
Emmanuel Emezie said:
. A lot of such facts are not backed by proof and many of the beliefs are not founded on reason.

Your opinion, many of the believers believe they are backed up with plenty of proof and founded on a lot of reason


Emmanuel Emezie said:
Unverifiable conjectures about phenomena and existence beyond this life are professed as truths.

Your point?


Emmanuel Emezie said:
The situation at present is such that spiritual works available to us contain fiction, misconceptions, superstition and falsehood in addition to actual facts.
Your opinion actually, you really have no clue and you can't question others spiritual experiences and beliefs, because you have not experienced them


Emmanuel Emezie said:
Christians believe that the sinfulness of Adam and Eve subsequently passed on to all generations of mankind. .

Once again, you think wrong. Not all Christians believe this way, my Church for one does not believe in original sin and sees Adam and Eve's fall as a necessary thing


Emmanuel Emezie said:
Snakes do not have the faculty of speech. Knowledge is not gained by eating the fruit of a tree, neither is it possible to attain everlasting life in this way. .
You take it too literally, the serpernt was a symbolism for the devil, and how do you know you can't gain knowledge from celestial fruit, have you ever tried?

Emmanuel Emezie said:
This tale, by all indications, is only a Jewish fable. It is not a true account of real events. However, Christianity accepts it as a factual historical event and has built its all-important concept of original sin on it. .

Once again, you are clumping all of Christinaity into one group

Emmanuel Emezie said:
Now let us think seriously about these issues. God does not have physical substance, God is spirit..
Once again you assume this is what all Christians believe.

Emmanuel Emezie said:
The very idea of hell implies that God is wicked and unchristian.
God doesn't have to be "Christian", He could be Jewish, Pagan, or Muslim.

Emmanuel Emezie said:
Let us examine this report in the light of our knowledge of medical science. Epilepsy is a nervous disease and we know from medical science that demons are not responsible for illness. There is actually no proof that evil spirits exist. The belief in their existence and that they are responsible for ailments is irrational. Such belief amounts to superstition.

Not really, it's called a miracle and some of us believe in them





I really dont' expect you to respond to these, but once again, you make false assumptions, group all Christians together and expect everyone to see things from 'logical' eyes, instead of spiritual eyes.

Most Christians view things from spiritual eyes and that's why they believe, they understand, which you apparently do not.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
What kind of fool believes everything he reads anyway?
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Greetings!

Emmanuel Emezie said:
The situation at present is such that spiritual works available to us contain fiction, misconceptions, superstition and falsehood in addition to actual facts.

No.

SOME spiritual works . . .

Not all!

Peace,

Bruce
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Halcyon said:
The kind that take 5,000 year old fairy tales as scientific fact?

There's got to be a connection between that and National Enquirer sales in Kansas.
 

1nharmony

A Coco-Nut
Emmanuel Emezie said:
And to the question of hell. Forgiveness is a cardinal moral principle of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ in his teachings stated unequivocally that we should always forgive others no matter how many times they offend us. If one desires to commune with God, one must have a forgiving heart, he taught. How then can we think of God as being so unforgiving as to establish a place of everlasting torment for those who go against His will.

I agree. How can a God promote forgiveness, grace and redemption so strongly and emphatically, yet hold back all of those for only one "sin" of not taking the bait hook, line and sinker. My ticket to "hell" is the simple thought that "Well, I'm not so sure you ARE the One True God". Wow, that makes this so-called omnipotent God kinda small, kinda prideful, and kinda arrogant in my humble opinion.
 
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