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Why a male supreme God?

psychoslice

psychoslice

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Deadtroopers said:
In the Temple. Watch 'The Bible's Buried Secrets' put out by BBC2, presented by Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou. You can get the three part series off YouTube.
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Thanks for that, I also see mythology based on
outhouse said:
Early Israelites who were polytheistic, worshipped these deity concepts as a family. Not as anything you would even recognize as a deity or worship.

These people were so primitive, they literally thought these beings controlled positive and negative thoughts in their heads. They viewed them as man and wife. They viewed a father deity who created all other deities. They lived the mythology, not just went to church on Sunday.

Their lives were consumed by belief.
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Yes, and some of those beliefs were horrible, but I suppose they didn't know any better back then.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
Guys, let's not bash indigenous Canaanite beliefs. There are people who are reviving the pre-Hebrew Canaanite religion, you know. It's not just some oddity from the past.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
Deadtroopers said:
Bashing Canaanite religion is a 2500 year old pastime ordained by scripture. If you're a Jew or Christian, them's the rules. From God. Can't be revived either. All the evidence was destroyed a similar length of time ago. That goes for Asatru, Druids, and Wicca too. All dead beyond recovery.
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They can be revived. Maybe not in their exact original forms, but they never really completely dead out or were completely wiped out.
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Deadtroopers said:
So Francis is dead and they made you Pope? The Nicene Creed is the official faith statement of all the major churches; Protestant, Orthodox; and Catholic. The Creed is the Club Rules: if you don't abide by the rules; your not a member of the club. That's just how it is; I don't make the rules:).
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I couldn't be a pope even if I were a man, I am not Catholic. I think you missed the point of what I am saying: We call God a "He", the scriptures call Him "He", and I call Him "He", but we don't believe Him to be a human being nor do we believe Him to have human attributes.
 
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Deadtroopers

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Katzpur said:
When my Mormon bishop learned I was so interested in early Christianity, he suggested I read it. Absolutely fascinating stuff! Should be required reading for all Christians. It doesn't matter that it's not "scripture." It contains some valuable insights into what 1st and 2nd century Christians really believed.
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Have you read any of the Nag Hammadi writings? Someone posted on another thread that the JWs coudn't be trusted for info about early Christianity because they were a recent sect. However, because they are so removed from the mainstream parts of their translations are actually truer to the original Greek: they don't have the same hang ups or axes to grind. There is one particular LDS belief that I thought was completely bonkers. Until I ran across much the same idea in a gnostic writing. I can see how Smith might have ripped off a work of fiction published a few years before he went digging, but an obscure gnostic text that I am pretty sure hadn't been found yet is a stretch.
 
arthra

arthra

Baha'i
The opening post has:

"To those who worship a male supreme deity - why?"

I don't worship a "male supreme deity".. The reason I use a masculine sense or the use of masculine pronoun is a convention of language only. God is more than a masculine or feminine Being. The "essence" of God is unknowable for us.

"BAHA'O'LLAH declares the absolute equality of the sexes. The male and female in the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms share alike the material bestowals. Why should there be a 83 difference in the human kingdom? Verily, they are equal before God, for so he created them. Why should woman be deprived of exercising the fullest opportunities offered by life? Whosoever serves humanity most is nearest God -- for God is no respecter of gender. The male and female are like the two wings of a bird and when both wings are reinforced with the same impulse the bird of humanity will be enabled to soar heaven-ward to the summit of progress. In which sacred book is this written?

(Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 82)
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
For accounts sake, here in Guayaquil Ecuador, almost all if not all catholics I ve asked about the God thing, think of him as genderless, but call him him because that´s.. well cause male is the "genderless" in spanish too.

Which I kinda think every language should have a decent genderless form by now but yeah... it may be that that will never happen. fingers crossed though. (I know about "they" but its garbage! I said decent!)
 
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Deadtroopers

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Faybull said:
lol. I love you too.
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X, remove the right lower what do you get? The y chromosome is mutation, a defective y chromosome. It survived and was propagated because SEX IS AWESOME! Go look at aphids, all female and reproducing by parthenogenesis. Females were creators before the male.
 
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Deadtroopers

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Me Myself said:
For accounts sake, here in Guayaquil Ecuador, almost all if not all catholics I ve asked about the God thing, think of him as genderless, but call him him because that´s.. well cause male is the "genderless" in spanish too.

Which I kinda think every language should have a decent genderless form by now but yeah... it may be that that will never happen. fingers crossed though. (I know about "they" but its garbage! I said decent!)
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Evolution dude. Spanish is the language of a deeply masculinist, patriarchal culture. Worn down Vulgar Latin, the language of another deeply masculinist, patriarchal culture.
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
Deadtroopers said:
Evolution dude. Spanish is the language of a deeply masculinist, patriarchal culture. Worn down Vulgar Latin, the language of another deeply masculinist, patriarchal culture.
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As is English I understand? Several reasons for that to be such I guess, but in any case most people here see God as a genderless figure when it comes to gender. that was adressing your point about ChristinES talking for all christians. Surely not all christians think like her, but all of the ones I know in flesh and blood do.

Now, that might be the minority in US, but US is of course not the only christian country, so there.
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Deadtroopers said:
My point is you don't and can't speak for the majority of Christians. As far as most of Christianity is concened; you are at best a heretic and probably not a Christian at all. The Creed is the minimum entry requirement.
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First off, I am a true Christian. Second, I only speak for myself and that's all I ever do. Third, what is heretical about saying God is not a human being?
I wonder if the 12 Apostles had the Creed.
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I hope everyone, including my fellow Christians, will forgive an ignorant question: How can God be a man if He is God and not a human being? (Jesus was a man, in our faith, I already know.)
 
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