Beauty and Animal Testing

I don't know why but I thought that animal testing had been abolished years ago but after spending money on new makeup I found out that the truth is some companies still test on animals to sell in countries like china etc.

I was appalled. I double checked with other resources and confirmed that my favourite brands (rimmel, revlon, maybelline and l'oreal) as well as high name brands have a loop hole policy that allows them to test for the sake of more sales.

I was disgusted and angry. I shared it to my facebook and my friends and family who use skin and makeup products did not know either. I will continue to finish the products I have already used but will not purchase them further. I may have issues finding cruelty free hair colour :/

Was I the only one who didnt know this? I feel like a dope and I feel sick about this.

Don't beat yerself up over this. We all discover stuff, & alter our behavior accordingly.
I gave up makeup & hair coloring.

Revoltingest said:

Don't beat yerself up over this. We all discover stuff, & alter our behavior accordingly.
I gave up makeup & hair coloring.

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I want to keep colouring my hair but I am seriously going to struggle to find a brand where I live that is cruelty free. I am lucky there are cruelty free makeup brands!

Someone as beautiful as you doesn't need make up anyway.

How you doin'?

Revoltingest said:

Don't beat yerself up over this. We all discover stuff, & alter our behavior accordingly.
I gave up makeup & hair coloring.

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Your avatar is a lie?

Bacon grease is a tried & true perfume.

Jayhawker Soule said:

Your avatar is a lie?

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I apply no beauty products, but that doesn't mean that there aren't some secretions or concoctions which inadvertently stick to me.

Quintessence said:

Use henna and indigo powder if you must dye your hair.

As for make up, I honestly don't see the point of it unless you're in the acting business and need to use it for production purposes.

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I have not seen it available here in australia but I will see if I can find it.

Wirey said:

Someone as beautiful as you doesn't need make up anyway.

How you doin'?

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Who?

dgirl1986 said:

Who?

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You, you gorgeous devil!

BTW, can I borrow $5?

Wirey said:

You, you gorgeous devil!

BTW, can I borrow $5?

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Lol you know my profile pic is animated right?

I don't generally wear make-up at all, and for other products like moisturizers or scents, I do research to try to make sure it's from a company that does not test it on animals.

Generally the products I use have a small number of ingredients that are well-known natural things that don't require testing since it's already known what sorts of effects they have.

Learned about it years ago when I went vegetarian.

There's cruelty-free products out there, and often they also contain less chemicals, as a bonus. Downside is you might pay a bit more, depending on what's available to you. I don't use that many products, so it's not a problem for me to pay a bit more but I could see it being an issue if someone uses a lot of stuff. But when you think about what they do, it's worth it.

As for hair dye, there's henna, as someone mentioned already (huge commitment and limited colours) but there's also semi-permanent vegetable based dyes (manic panic, special effects, etc), for less commitment and also bright colours. There might be a few brands sold as well in health stores. Here in the UK, Holland and Barrett carries henna and permanent dye called Naturtint, for example so might be worth having a look. I don't know what colour you dye your hair, so it's hard to recommend a specific thing.

But yes, it is disgusting that animal testing is still going on. It really speaks of the majority of the beauty industry, in my opinion, to have ugly secrets like that. They only care about making money. Screw it if animals suffer and women are made to feel insecure.

dgirl1986 said:

Lol you know my profile pic is animated right?

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Yes, I know. That forces me to judge you based solely on your mind, or at least the portion of it I get to see here, and that portion is a beautiful, magical, wonderful person who could fill any heart with joy.

Now, about that $5........

namaste

please dont feel a dope , ...I am just glad you found out , ...we tend to trust that comercial companies are decent people , sadly this is not allways so , I dont buy any comercial skin or hair care products only herbal treatments , ...

dgirl1986 said:

I have not seen it available here in australia but I will see if I can find it.

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I dont know which area you are in but if you have any Indian comunities you will find that indian grocers have some very simple things like henna which comes in different colours ....usualy there are also packets of powdered herbal preperations keep an eye out for these packets this one company are very easy to find and very pure , if you canot find them I am sure you can buy on line , ...but finding a shop is great because you will find all sorts of other interesting things ...
then check out health food shops they will also have herbal soaps henna and all sorts of interesting things ......100% natural and vegetarian or vegan labeling will help you know that these things are ethicaly made , ...no vegan approves of testing ...

but realy I have to agree with @illykitty

illykitty said:

But yes, it is disgusting that animal testing is still going on. It really speaks of the majority of the beauty industry, in my opinion, to have ugly secrets like that. They only care about making money. Screw it if animals suffer and women are made to feel insecure.

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girls are beautifull enough without having to buy all this comercial rubbish nature has more than enough beauty products to offer , ....

More people are becoming aware!
THANK GOD because it really effects me to even see a squirrel in the road hit by a car, I have to literally say "So sorry human hit you!"...

Some may think this sounds silly, but there was a movie when I was a kid that had HUGE influence over many kids in ny time and wass a huge hit for 25 years literally for children... and that was Disney"s movie Bambi.

The scene where Bambi's mother gets shot really effected three generations of children.

ShivaFan said:

More people are becoming aware!
THANK GOD because it really effects me to even see a squirrel in the road hit by a car, I have to literally say "So sorry human hit you!"...

Some may think this sounds silly, but there was a movie when I was a kid that had HUGE influence over many kids in ny time and wass a huge hit for 25 years literally for children... and that was Disney"s movie Bambi.

The scene where Bambi's mother gets shot really effected three generations of children.

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Everytime time I see a dead animal on the road (usually a kangaroo, fox or bird) I feel really bad and sad.

I think my empathy towards animals comes from mainly kids shows and movies where animals were main characters (like Fern Gully) and the fact I grew up with a range of pets.

I did some research and some contacting and it seems brands like maXfactor and covergirl are owned by a company called proctor and gamble. They made a few claims about keeping animal testing minimal and as humane as possible, employing expert veternarians to ensure the animals are cared for and also working hard on providing and developing non animal testing methods for likes of places like China in a hope to change legislation (and have contributed a riduclous amount of money to the cause). I confirmed this with the wildlife humane soceity they have been working with.
L'oreal claimed the same thing but they did not mention any specifics which made me suspicious.

Okay that's it, no more make up for me!

dgirl1986 said:

I did some research and some contacting and it seems brands like maXfactor and covergirl are owned by a company called proctor and gamble. They made a few claims about keeping animal testing minimal and as humane as possible, employing expert veternarians to ensure the animals are cared for and also working hard on providing and developing non animal testing methods for likes of places like China in a hope to change legislation (and have contributed a riduclous amount of money to the cause). I confirmed this with the wildlife humane soceity they have been working with.
L'oreal claimed the same thing but they did not mention any specifics which made me suspicious.

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Well you're right to be suspicious of it.

Also am I the only one who cringed at the "humane" bit? If you see any pictures of animal testing, it's anything but humane. It's not even needed. I mean, if they use chemicals in their products that they have to test, doesn't that sort of raise alarm flags? There's several companies that don't test on animals. They simply use things that are gentle and don't irritate the skin.

Testing for medicinal purposes is a grey area to me, one necessary evil, if you will. But for cosmetics? Totally unneeded, in my opinion.