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Well, when you've already decided not to let busybodies dictate your love life, it's not a huge leap.
Well, that's what I took away from your argument as well. And I've read it several times, since you keep repeating it.
And he's been doing this for years. Nothing but this, actually. One thread after another, one topic after another, Laughably transparent lies, shifting the burden, insisting that every argument tearing him to shreds is "invalid,"never wavering, never learning, and never ever EVER getting any less pathetic.
I can sexually love another woman or man based on different things. Yes, I am Bi-sexual and proud of it. Personally speaking, if a woman or man has a good personality and treats others with respect and dignity, lifts them up instead of stomping a mud-hole in them while they are down, I can be sexually attracted to either because a chemical in my brain says that they are a good person for me to be with emotionally, physically, and mentally. Both of us can help each other grow as individuals in a positive way.
Yes we have. And I don’t believe you actually answered the question last time either.
There exists no reason to suggest that whatever is true of heterosexuality does NOT go for homosexuality.
This view has no basis in reality. And it certainly doesn’t explain the people who say they knew from a very young age that they were gay, long before they’d ever engaged in anything you’d call a “homosexual act.” Never mind the genetic and epigenetic components involved.
Well then that brings me back to my question: When did you choose to be heterosexual? I really have to wonder how you can believe that sexual attraction is a matter of choice. Could you just decide tomorrow that you’re going to be attracted to men from now on? How would that even work?
Experimentation is quite common in adolescence but to say you trained yourself to be attracted to a certain gender doesn’t make much sense to me.
What positions, and by whom?
What you’re talking about is commonly referred to as the “fraternal birth order effect.” It says that the more older brothers a man has, the greater the likelihood that he will have a homosexual orientation. One explanation for it is that when a woman is pregnant with a male fetus, her body is exposed to a male-specific antigen (H-Y antigen, I believe), that causes her immune system to produce antibodies to fight it because it’s foreign to her system. Those antibodies remain in the woman’s system after the pregnancy has ended and build up with each successive pregnancy of a male fetus and after enough has built up, those antibodies can cross the placental barrier and break down the chemicals in the fetus’ brain that would normally produce heterosexuality. The odds are said to increase something like 33% with each successive male child.
And you have never once, not ever, been able to show that gays do not do that in the privacy of their bedrooms. You ASSUME they don't because you personally cannot fathom such a thing. That is your personal issue. Your issue of not being able to personally comprehend something so you have been making stuff up left and right to try to support your line of thinking. But you can't, and have never, and can't ever, prove that gays don't love. What you have been proving is your complete lack of understanding due to your own, apparent, homophobia.
Where on earth did you pull that bizarre comparison from? Are you really that desperate to avoid the point?
You’re going to have to explain why two parents and a child DOESN’T constitute a “legitimate” family unit. If it’s just my sister and me left, and I want to call the two of us a legitimate family unit who are you to say we are not? What makes it “legitimate” or not??
I don’t recall referring to nature to describe what a family unit is or is not.
Homosexuality was a contributing factor in the downfall of the Roman and Greek empires? How so?
So what? The entire history of human kind is bathed in strife and bloodshed. These are not new things, which is what you seem to be suggesting.
Well then I really have to wonder what you know about human history.
Every nation that used to practice slavery which later ended the practice of slavery is responsible for “self condemning slavery.”
I should have included these factors as well! Thank you.
And this is what is just so weird about your argument. You have no reason to think that homosexuals would be any less concerned with giving pleasure than heterosexuals. Reality is that people in loving homosexual relationships are concerned about giving affection to the person they love. They give sexually, and non-sexually. They support each other, help each other, sacrifice for each other. They give each other little gifts, they take out the garbage, do the dishes, listen to each other. They do all the same things heterosexual couples do.
The question is will Fatihah "man up",
as it were, and admit he is wrong?
Yeah, dem homasexials are such lay downs, as it were. Spineless pillow biters...
It's completely ludicrous to think otherwise, in my opinion. To believe that homosexuals don't feel both lust and love, same as anybody else, is to suggest that they are not capable of the full range of human emotions that anybody else is capable of experiencing. Essentially he is saying they are inhuman. Obviously that is nonsense.
That does appear to be what he is saying. In fact, he said as much to me. He claimed homosexuals were a different species. Thus...not human.