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wait...what?! he came to start a new religion

4YAH80

Member
Your friend is a silly bumpkin who doesn't see the glaring fallacy of circular logic.

Islam is the True religion because it is the religion taught in the Koran.

Judaism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Talmud.

Hinduism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Bhagavad Gita.

Buddhism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Sutras.

Jainism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Agamas.

Sikhism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Gurmukhi.

Baha'ism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Kitab-i-Aqdas.

Scientology is the true religion because it is the religion taught in Dianetics.

Hilarious!! And you are sooo right!! This is a prime example of why i stay away from religion all together. I've only been on this forum for about a week and have seen this type of reasoning numerous times. It's amazing how many people don't even realize how ridiculous this reasoning is.

"Religion is a snare and a rackett -- Judge Rutherford
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I don't think that Christianity has anything to do with Judaism, and that the Judaism of today has nothing to do with the way of life presented in the bible, being that neither one seems to adhere to what the Hebrews practiced (which I don't see as a religion but more a way of life).

You are aware Jewish texts predate the Bible and the Bible was incorrectly copied from the Tanakh to form a different book right?
The Tanakh predates Christianity miles away.
Christianity also goes against Judaism yet you have the OT or Hebrew Bible which is the center of Jewish faith. But Christianity looses its connection with the "Son of God" bit.

Jews or Hebrews as you call them practiced polytheistic Paganism before Judaism and they practice exactly hat is mentioned in the OT and this is not even debatable. You say a book says so yet it was a book never written in Hebrew for Jews and kept away from them and blatantly used as a means of fulfilling what Jews have been waiting for...the Messiah. And Jesus did not fulfill Jewish expectations of the Messiah by the way.

The Bible says lots of things yet it can't even be proven that Jesus existed.
 

thau

Well-Known Member
I just had a rather eye opening conversation with a co-worker, She says that Christianity is the True religion because it is the religion taught in the bible....this is my first time hearing someone say this. I have been reading and studying the bible for a little over a year now (read it through twice) and not once did I see anything about Christianity being given as a religion by the Most High or his son....where did she get this idea from?

What was the Messiah's mission? Was he sent to us to start a new religion in his fathers name? Or was he simply an example like I have come to believe? Does anyone else believe as my co-worker does?

Any and all opinions are welcomed.

"Simply an example?"

Well that sure leaves you a lot of freedom to have a good time and keep looking out for number one, primarily. That is, if he was nothing more than a guide with no apparent consequences for weak performance.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
I just had a rather eye opening conversation with a co-worker, She says that Christianity is the True religion because it is the religion taught in the bible....this is my first time hearing someone say this. I have been reading and studying the bible for a little over a year now (read it through twice) and not once did I see anything about Christianity being given as a religion by the Most High or his son....where did she get this idea from?

What was the Messiah's mission? Was he sent to us to start a new religion in his fathers name? Or was he simply an example like I have come to believe? Does anyone else believe as my co-worker does?

Any and all opinions are welcomed.

John 14:6*Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me...

Jesus set forth an example of a way of life that God is pleased with. He also became the means by which mankind can be redeemed from sin and death. And for that reason, Jesus is the only way that everlasting life can be made possible for those who wish to benefit from it.
 

John Martin

Active Member
I just had a rather eye opening conversation with a co-worker, She says that Christianity is the True religion because it is the religion taught in the bible....this is my first time hearing someone say this. I have been reading and studying the bible for a little over a year now (read it through twice) and not once did I see anything about Christianity being given as a religion by the Most High or his son....where did she get this idea from?

What was the Messiah's mission? Was he sent to us to start a new religion in his fathers name? Or was he simply an example like I have come to believe? Does anyone else believe as my co-worker does?

Any and all opinions are welcomed.

The mission of Jesus Christ was not to start a new religion but to inaugurate a new human consciousness. He announced his good news with one statement: the kingdom of God is at hand, repent. It has two aspects: objective and subjective. Objectively it reveals that God is everywhere and everyone and everything is in God. Subjectively it means that ultimately human consciousness is one with the divine consciousness. It does not become another God but it comes from God and returns to God as the piece of ice comes comes from the water and returns to water. It is a spirituality based on God and not on religion. In the spirituality based on religion, first comes religion, second comes God as understood by that religion and third come human beings who have to worship God in that religion. In this sense religion is greater than human beings.
In the spirituality based on the kingdom of God, first comes God who is greater than religions and human beings; second come human beings who are greater than religions and third come religions which are meant to be at the service of human beings. In this sense human beings are greater than religions. Jesus invited people to transcend the spirituality based on religion to the spirituality on God or the kingdom of God.
There are four important principles in the teaching of Christ: first there is only one God(monotheism). Creation and human beings are manifestations of God(not creatures of God). Human beings are manifested in the image and likeness of God and they have possibility to realize their oneness with God. The purpose of human existence is to realize oneness with God and manifest divine attributes of love and compassion in human relationships.
The kingdom of God is growing from the individual consciousness to the divine consciousness. Jesus said:the kingdom of is like a mustard seed.It is smallest of all seeds but when it grows it becomes so big that the birds of the air will come and their make nests in it.
It means we need to grow from the individual consciousness to the collective consciousness, from the collective to the universal,from the universal to the divine. If we use the analogy of a tree: a leaf represents individual consciousness; a branch represents collective consciousness(religions); a trunk represents universal consciousness and the roots represent the divine consciousness. We need to grow from leaf consciousness to the roots and finally realize being the whole tree: there is only one tree, one truth,one life and one way, the way of the tree. This is not a religion but a way of life. Hence the mission of Jesus was not to reform a religion,not to start a new religion but to inaugurate a new human consciousness that is able to say: I am the way, the truth and the life( Let us remember the tree). That 'I' is the whole tree which embraces different levels of truth. Unfortunately and understandably Christians have created another religion(another branch) in the name of Jesus and fragmented the wholeness of Truth that Jesus experienced and invited people to realize or experience it.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I thought I missed the verse where the Messiah said "here! come get some Christianity!" lol I had never heard anyone say this before, took everything I had not to laugh.

I am sure you find yourself amusing but the las laugh is on you because He didn't have to state what He was dong; He just did it.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Something else I noticed in Ezekiel 18 ...

18:21-22 puts the lie to the Christian idea I keep hearing, where they say one can be a monster (such as Hitler,) and then truly believe on your death bed, and you get to go to heaven!

Eze 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Eze 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

I believe that is exactly whta the passage is saying that repentance will be accepted as righteousness.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Your friend is a silly bumpkin who doesn't see the glaring fallacy of circular logic.

Islam is the True religion because it is the religion taught in the Koran.

Judaism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Talmud.

Hinduism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Bhagavad Gita.

Buddhism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Sutras.

Jainism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Agamas.

Sikhism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Gurmukhi.

Baha'ism is the true religion because it is the religion taught in the Kitab-i-Aqdas.

Scientology is the true religion because it is the religion taught in Dianetics.

I believe that there is more to it than that but definitley it is the Bible that teaches Christianity and it is the truth of God. Othere religions can come from a text and speak about God and even have things from God in them but none of them will fulfill the true purpose of God.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
I believe that there is more to it than that but definitley it is the Bible that teaches Christianity and it is the truth of God. Othere religions can come from a text and speak about God and even have things from God in them but none of them will fulfill the true purpose of God.

I think you missed Father Heathen's point. Christianity is just another religion on that list of circular reasoning. My god is written about in a book - and we believe the book is his inspired truth - and tells us about him - therefore my god is real because he is written about in his book.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I believe that there is more to it than that but definitley it is the Bible that teaches Christianity and it is the truth of God. Othere religions can come from a text and speak about God and even have things from God in them but none of them will fulfill the true purpose of God.

Because they weren't the religion were you indoctrinated with as a child, dictated by the geographical location of your origin. :rolleyes:
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It's not a religion. It's a relationship =p.

Buddhism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Buddha. Islam isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Muhammad. Hinduism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Krishna. Judaism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Moses. Baha'ism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Bahá'u'lláh, etc, etc, etc.
 

KidatHeart

Member
I just had a rather eye opening conversation with a co-worker, She says that Christianity is the True religion because it is the religion taught in the bible....this is my first time hearing someone say this. I have been reading and studying the bible for a little over a year now (read it through twice) and not once did I see anything about Christianity being given as a religion by the Most High or his son....where did she get this idea from?

What was the Messiah's mission? Was he sent to us to start a new religion in his fathers name? Or was he simply an example like I have come to believe? Does anyone else believe as my co-worker does?

Any and all opinions are welcomed.
I think the messiah's mission was to bring about paradise on Earth, but it was cut short by his murder.

I don't think the mission was to start a new religion.

I think it was more about spreading Truth.
 

Pagan_Patriot

Active Member
Buddhism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Buddha. Islam isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Muhammad. Hinduism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Krishna. Judaism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Moses. Baha'ism isn't a religion; it's a relationship with Bahá'u'lláh, etc, etc, etc.

Lol :p
 

John Martin

Active Member
Every religion is unique because the questions and the problems faced by the founder or initiator of each religion are unique. We need to find the truth or God according to the problems and the questions we have to day. The past answers may not be solutions for the problems facing today, particularly problems like homosexuality, lesbianism, abortions and contraceptives etc.
There is also eternal truth which is valid for all times: truth of our oneness with God. Jesus said, the Father and I are one. This truth does not change according to changing times.
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Given that you can't even properly spell the name of the religion, you deserve no further notice on this subject.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I think you missed Father Heathen's point. Christianity is just another religion on that list of circular reasoning. My god is written about in a book - and we believe the book is his inspired truth - and tells us about him - therefore my god is real because he is written about in his book.

I beleive my God is real because He is. The book just helps me to find that out.

I believe the book is His inspired truth because He is real not because He is written about in the book.
 
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