The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
What evidences do you have which make you to believe that Odin is just a myth,
aside from the fact that you cant see him by your eyes.
aside from the fact that you cant see him by your eyes.
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Do Fundamentalist Theists Have Strong Evidence That Odin Doesn't Exist
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I'm confused. Most of the Pagan gods are understood to be manifest in nature, not transcending it. The anthropomorphized vision of the gods are just that, but they represent real forces and powers that unequivocally exist in the world (e.g., the wind, poetic inspiration, love, etc.). Odin is a culturally specific mythopoetic interpretation of aspects of reality.
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
You robbed my question!
But that's okay, at least I will see what people have to say to this now.
But that's okay, at least I will see what people have to say to this now.
The Sum of Awe
Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Modernly, sure they can be seen at metaphorical, but they used to be believed in.
I'm not convinced that our ancestors interpreted their mythopoetic narratives in the literal fashion that you seem to be suggesting. Belief stories and narratives that explain truths about reality is still a type of believing. Most of what I've read suggests Pagan mythology was never intended to be taken literally, nor was it taken as such by its believers back in the day. Mythological literalism is a fairly modern phenomena.
F0uad
Well-Known Member
Is this a reply to: http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...34-do-atheists-have-strong-evidences-god.html
If so just debate it there?
If so just debate it there?
What? Is the question too hard?
F0uad
Well-Known Member
I find your comments on this forum really laughable and ridiculous
was i talking to you.. Nop3..
was i addressing you.. Nop3..
I don't belief in it because the evidence of that is my holy-book
happy now?To be serious its illogical to belief that God can be seen or touched i think it will make him automatically not a god like Odin and certainly if he is hes own creation a (human).
Me Myself
Back to my username
When you put something in the "religious debate" section of the forum, you are adressing it to everyone.
Just informing you.
One on one debates are in other parts of the forum. PMs and profile messages are another tool for refering to specific users.
I don´t think that classifies as even circumstancial evidence :areyoucra
I don't belief in it because the evidence of that is my holy-book
To be serious its illogical to belief that God can be seen or touched i think it will make him automatically not a god like Odin and certainly if he is hes own creation a (human).
I don´t think that classifies as even circumstancial evidence :areyoucra
Man of Faith
Well-Known Member
My God provides me a personal relationship with himself. And if through my personal relationship with my God he tells me that all other god's are fake and made up, then that is the evidence that I need that Odin doesn't exist.
reach:
reach:
Muffled
Jesus in me
Usually a myth is defined by a lack of evidence. If there were evidence it would be considered history.
There is no evidence that Odin is around today. As far as I am concerned the myths about Odin reflect an ancient reality and are not fiction.
The gods were just men with longer lives and more power than other men. Worshipping men seems like a lesson in futility (more so when they aren't even around).
Muffled
Jesus in me
Yes, you are confusing Norse mythology with Greek mythology. The Greeks have anthropomorphized gods but the Norse not as much.
Perhaps Odin is culturally specific because he is viewed as a progenitor of the Norse people.
By anthropomorphized, I mean that in a broad sense: attributing human characteristics to the divine in order to better understand and identify with it. The gods are treated as human-like characters in mythological stories as opposed to abstract and impersonal forces. Nearly all world mythologies do this to some extent, be they Pagan or Abrahamic, but this is particularly common in Pagan mythology. There's some of the abstract language too, but it is much harder to tell a good story using that kind of presentation. This is probably why mythology tends to anthropomorphize the gods.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
My God provides me a personal relationship with himself. And if through my personal relationship with my God he tells me that all other god's are fake and made up, then that is the evidence that I need that Odin doesn't exist.
What if my personal relationship with Odin said the same about your own God, though?
Darkness
Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Are there any good books or articles on this topic? It is an area of theology/religion which very much interests me.
Herr Heinrich
Student of Mythology
Would that not be the same for the Christian god then? Is the Bible not just an ancient reality by that logic? Would it not be futile to then worship this god as well?
My God provides me a personal relationship with himself. And if through my personal relationship with my God he tells me that all other god's are fake and made up, then that is the evidence that I need that Odin doesn't exist.
Except that you have been highly influenced to believe that based upon cultural and religious conditioning. Isn't that precisely how a god who didn't exist operate?
Infinitum
Possessed Bookworm
I agree. I've read various Pagan myths aswell as commentaries on them and the relationship between the people and the deities seems to have been much more poetic than the current somewhat black-and-white, Greek style rational thinking that's taken over the religious thought (this mainly in the West, of course). My favourite example is from the Mesopotamian mythology, there Babylon was thought to be the city of the gods at the same time as it was the city of mortals. They had yearly rituals to celebrate this, with people impersonating the gods and all that. I really like the way the sacred and mundane has been thought to mix together so tightly it's sometimes been impossible to even attempt to separate them.
Student of X
Paradigm Shifter
Yeah part of the problem is the distorted common understanding of myth itself. If everyone had the perspective of a mythologist like Joseph Campbell then religious strife and spiritual ignorance would be a thing of the past.