ohh iv'e agreed with your thread point the whole time. i have just been asking question for my and your benefit.
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Allah the Arabic name of GOD
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as you said before , aaliha , it's mean Gods
Alihatakom mean "your gods"
like this exemple God called the disbelievers Gods , you Gods (Alihatakom )
واذا راك الذين كفروا ان يتخذونك الا هزوا اهذا الذي يذكر الهتكم وهم بذكر الرحمن هم كافرون
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And when those who disbelieve behold thee, they but choose thee out for mockery, (saying): Is this he who maketh mention of your gods? And they would deny all mention of the Beneficent.
as i understand it's up to the belief (religion) and language how to call God , and what is His value and rules ....etc
if some one belief that God is "a tree", that deny the meaning and the value of others gods even in his language .
but if you are a muslim or jews and aramaic even that you are not it's arabic or hebrew or aramaic is not your first langauge , you would call God "Elah" , its just linguistic matter the context is the same .
I'm not sure what you mean here Jacob,in fact i have no idea.
agreed .
yeah some terrorist which called them selfs "Muslims " use it .
and i blame also the western media (in movies ...etc) , which use it as weakness against Islam to make non-muslims fear when they hear it or see it .
but i am talking about why they did not make a litlte pre-search for the meaning "Allah", before they dare to insult the God by other language (Arabic) !!!
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
In the hebrew scriptures, the Isealites identified the name of their Allah by the hebrew characters YHWH. This is known to the jewish people as the 'unspeakable name' because they came to believe that it is too holy to be pronounced. But the name is still written in their hebrew bible as Yahweh. In english it transliterates to Jehovah. (Check the hebrew bible and look go to Exodus chapter 3)
In hebrew the word 'El/'Elohim' means God.... but it is a title, not a personal name.
As you said, there are many allah's...so if you dont have a personal name for your allah, how do you distinguish him between all the many different allahs in the world. For example, Allah Zeus, Allah Molech, Allah Satan, Allah Vishnu, Allah Brahman....all these allah's have personal names which identify them, and their adherents identify their god/allah by these names. But if you only have god/allah as a name for your god, then im not sure it is truly a name.
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maybe this is the different , you use it (Elah) as title and we use it as proper noun Allah .
and you used the name o
we have this issue in Islam (Arabic ) too , there are many names refer to Allah/God about 99 names , and other one mean THE LORD الرب
as i know the word Elohim and Eloah mentioned in the hebrew Bible to God about 2500 times .
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
you just pointed out the difference
you use the word 'allah' as a proper noun. In our language it is not a proper noun but a common noun and in most other languages it is a common noun.
Being a common noun means it does not identify a personality which is why there can be many Allah's. For a specific personality to be identified, we use proper nouns....and the proper noun which identifies the Hebrew God (Abrahams God) is Yahweh.
Your personal name is a proper noun. It identifies you. It is the same with the Abrahams God. His name is Yahweh which is a proper noun to identify him.
JacobEzra.
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Yep mate, looking back I realize I thought you said something else.
Lack of sleep makes one loony.
FearGod
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Which country you visited which that muslim instruct to kill infidels,and did you face dangerous
while you stayed in that country,did anyone tried to kill you while you were walking in the market
and if not,then what makes you fear and why you were not afraid to visit and travel to those countries.
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Words don't have absolute meanings. They are like buckets which are filled with meaning. In this case, regardless of how it's translated in other cultures, the word "Allah" has taken on a NEW meaning in the West. For many of us in the West, Allah is the word for what we view is the false god of the Muslims. And no, Christians do not worship the same god as Jews and Muslims. We believe our God has a son.
FearGod
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lets start with Somalia and i will go ahead after your comment
Watch that nice song from Somalia,but i guess what you faced there was a crazy woman,
so you were unlucky at that time,but also you were lucky that you didnt face one crazy terrorist.
Hope you will enjoy the song,if you didnt see one in Somalia
[youtube]qMbEfr2x6a0[/youtube]
Sweet Rush "Animal" - YouTube
you absolutly right .
no i am not with you in this , the media ,had big rule in this , because it's always represent and focus so much in the crimes that done by some "mulims" crimanals , and it's did not show and focus on the crimes that done by the western armies , for exemple USA army victimes in Iraq that they bombing by the planes , they even ,they did not invesitage to whom kill by "error" the Iraqi victimes .
Allah , is a name called every day 5 times by ATHAN , accross a many muslims countries ,for that, if you fear and you are not in confidence why you come to Muslims countries ?
thanks , you too a nice and honest person , yeah i am not considerate 1.5 billion person as criminals .
unforunilty some muslims use it to kill each other too,for exemple in Libya war (that the west involve in it) last months ago , the both muslims sides use it when they kill each other !!!!, i am always say there is BIG different between Islam and some muslims .
this is the point if some muslims do crimes we blame the Islam or the whom do that crimes ?
btw
Allah Akbar mean in English "God is the great ".
as i understand , We and the Jews , worship the only GOD , which you considerate in Christinianity "The father"
I guess you did not read some of pre-replies in this thread , you just read the title then you reply ?
you visited all these countries and you still alive
if we considerate that some of them was individual crimes , as Indonesia , as i know the crimes are done in whole the world , even in USA , sometimes we heard that someone shout his friends in school ...etc
in other countries we have some civilain wars, and political issues , and of course some "muslims" criminales .
you get scare also from old muslim woman !!!! OMG
could you explain where you met these Muslims that whom want to destroy Israel and USA ?
my next question :
don't you meat some non-muslims want to destroy all the muslims ?
I met them .
I did not understand yet your experience, you visited some muslims countries ? or chat with some muslims ? ...Etc can you explain more ?
yeah you right , it's not required to any western people to go there , because the of crimes that done by the westerns armies their .
it's like a revenge matter.
just last month an american soldier killed 16 innocent afghani , without any reason (maybe he was drunk ) .
Afghanistan: US Soldier Held By Nato Isaf After Civilian Shooting Spree | World News | Sky News
I just post this to know that also some western people done some crimes against muslims , it's not matter of comparation or who kill more , but it's just to be fair .
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