Is it Immoral to Wear Revealing Clothing?

Green Gaia · Nov 22, 2005

EEWRED said:
Do you have a negative opinion of men?

No, not in general.

If she knew of someone that was doing this, shouldn't she have reported this to someone?

Of course. Does that mean it will be handled before something bad happens?

We are talking about the wearing of clothing that is known by someone to induce purient interest from the average person, are we not?

Well that's my point. Not everyone is "average". So are we responsible for not provoking those who may not be average? Your statement early seems to indicate so.

Pah · Nov 22, 2005

EEWRED said:
But Terry, there is a responsibilty placed on all of us to not do think that provoke others to do things which are not good. Look at Ephesians where God says, "Fathers, provoke not your children to wrath". Wouldn't this imply that there is a responsibility on our part not to take up actions that provokle others? While I would agree with you that the person who lusts, is the person in the wrong, the person who knowing does something to cause that lust bears some responsibilty.

So, you would have me share some responsibility every time you have a doubt about you faith?

Your understanding of Ephesians 6:4 does little to understand Ephasians 6:11

BUDDY · Nov 22, 2005

Maize said:
No, not in general.

Of course. Does that mean it will be handled before something bad happens?

Well that's my point. Not everyone is "average". So are we responsible for not provoking those who may not be average? Your statement early seems to indicate so.

Well, no I don't think so. To be responsible for the reactions of everyone, would take a knowledge of everyone's reaction, which is impossible. We can know however, how the average and reasonable person will respond to certain stimulus. It is basic human nature. I did not mean, by the way, to suggest that the women in this instance is in any way responsible for being sexually assaulted, as has been discussed in a seperate thread, but I do believe that a women who wears little clothing (knowing how men will react) is responsible for the initial lustful reaction.

:sarcastic I know I could have made that more clear. Let me know if I am not making any sense.

BUDDY · Nov 22, 2005

Pah said:
So, you would have me share some responsibility every time you have a doubt about you faith?

Your understanding of Ephesians 6:4 does little to understand Ephasians 6:11

I am havng trouble following your logic Pah, sorry. If you could help me understand what you mean, I would appreciate it.

Pah · Nov 22, 2005

EEWRED said:
I am havng trouble following your logic Pah, sorry. If you could help me understand what you mean, I would appreciate it.

You would like to see shared responsibilty. Should I be responsible for when you have doubts about your faith just because I have long ago had the same doubts?

The scripture tells us you are responisble for protecting yourself with the "armour of God". Those that tempt are not responsible for your sin.

BUDDY · Nov 22, 2005

Pah said:
You would like to see shared responsibilty. Should I be responsible for when you have doubts about your faith just because I have long ago had the same doubts?

The scripture tells us you are responisble for protecting yourself with the "armour of God". Those that tempt are not responsible for your sin.

Wow, that is a great point! Frubals to you.

I guess I would say that if I cause someone else to sin, then I am guilty of sin. Not the sin that the other person commits. My auction that put him or her on that path was the sin, but the sin they commit is their own.

Sunstone · Nov 22, 2005

Seeing someone in revealing clothing doesn't normally give me lustful thoughts. But then I'm old enough for the hormones to have quieted somewhat. I can recall having more passionate responses to revealing clothing when I was younger. I often feel thankful I'm no longer ruled by my hormones.

Ceridwen018 · Nov 22, 2005

What's so bad about being lustful anyway? Its simply the nature of all animals to become sexually aroused by certain things. As long as lustful thoughts are managed appropriately, no one gets hurt. Its when people try to suppress their lustful thoughts, or allow them too much rein that things start to go sour.

Sunstone · Nov 22, 2005

Ceridwen018 said:
What's so bad about being lustful anyway? Its simply the nature of all animals to become sexually aroused by certain things. As long as lustful thoughts are managed appropriately, no one gets hurt. Its when people try to suppress their lustful thoughts, or allow them too much rein that things start to go sour.

Too bad I can't frubal you twice in one day, Ceridwen! When I feel "lust" nowadays it gives me a burst of energy and inspiration for which I'm thankful for. But I can recall when in my younger days it made me feel lonely and perhaps confused. I guess there are benefits of growing older.

Terrywoodenpic · Nov 22, 2005

We seem to keep losing the thread It is about revealing clothing being immoral.
Not provocative dressing causing lust.

Revealing clothing is not immoral in the right place such as the club scene or the beach.
It would be amongst other people in like clothing, and not a problem to anyone.

If any one finds a particular form of dressing provokes them to lust, and this is a problem for them, they should remove them selves from the situation, because the problem is with them.

Clothes can only be "immoral" for the person wearing them.
To the observer they can only be distasteful but not immoral, as the viewing does not effect their own morals.

Terry_____________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

nutshell · Nov 22, 2005

Ceridwen018 said:
What's so bad about being lustful anyway? Its simply the nature of all animals to become sexually aroused by certain things. As long as lustful thoughts are managed appropriately, no one gets hurt. Its when people try to suppress their lustful thoughts, or allow them too much rein that things start to go sour.

I believe our purpose on this earth is to overcome the "natural man" by learning to control those lustful desires and becoming more than animals.

It also seems that allowing lust to run free is when things go sour (unwanted pregnancy, hurting others physically or emotionally, anger, etc.).

mr.guy · Nov 22, 2005

nutshell said:
I believe our purpose on this earth is to overcome the "natural man" by learning to control those lustful desires and becoming more than animals.

A funny consistency about arguments that start out with "overcoming natural man" or "man's base instincs/impurities" end up focused on women's role in encouraging/causing them. I've seen few solutions to overcoming this "hump" that don't start and end with general masogyny. The real test of spiritual maturity would be to let the girls off their leash now and again, don't ya think?

michel · Nov 22, 2005

Ceridwen018 said:
What's so bad about being lustful anyway? Its simply the nature of all animals to become sexually aroused by certain things. As long as lustful thoughts are managed appropriately, no one gets hurt. Its when people try to suppress their lustful thoughts, or allow them too much rein that things start to go sour.

http://www.lbduk.org/other_side_of_domestic_abuse.htm

Very good point, Ceridwen.

Its when people try to suppress their lustful thoughts, or allow them too much rein that things start to go sour

The suppression is the worse enemy; when the gasket blows.................

Aqualung · Nov 22, 2005

ceridwen said:
What's so bad about being lustful anyway? Its simply the nature of all animals to become sexually aroused by certain things

Morality and nature are usually opposites.

Terrywoodenpic · Nov 22, 2005

Aqualung said:
Morality and nature are usually opposites.

Is that TRUE.

Nature is directly of God.
Morality is man's attempt to interpret Gods word.

I hope they are not opposite.

Terry_____________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

John Eastern · Nov 22, 2005

Eventually, we all become dust. That, is never looked at. Unless of course you are cleaning house.

Quoth The Raven · Nov 22, 2005

Aqualung said:
But why? So they can find someone to sleep with. And since it's immoral to sleep around, it's immoral to act in a way that increases your odds of sleeping after a day. And since sex is only moral withing a marriage, and since it's immoral to get married on looks alone, there's no reason, unless an immoral one, to dress immodestly.

Wow. So if I wear a low cut top and a short skirt I'm doing it because I want to find someone to sleep with?

Thanks for the heads up...I never realised what I was up to before.
Just no-one tell my husband what I'm up to, will you, cos he's under the impression I just wear clothes because I like them.:bonk:

John Eastern · Nov 22, 2005

Anyone wanna clean my house? While I'm at work. Wear any of my clothes. I leave my scrubs at work anyway.

Sunstone · Nov 22, 2005

Often enough, when I see some attractive woman in sexy or revealing clothing, I mentally thank her for performing a public service by giving me a rush of energy. I don't know how many times the sight of such a woman has brightenned my day. So, I'm really not sure what all the complaining is about.

The Black Whirlwind · Nov 22, 2005

Of course, it is morally repugnant and is on par with pedo- oooh, look at that gal with the miniskirt and the crop top.

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