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Birth Control

painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Creator said to us that all things in creation are equil, and that all thing deserve respect.

I plan to respect future generations by not having children untill I am ready to have them and take care of them to the best of my abilitiy.

Birth control is how I plan to show that respect.

wa:do
 
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civilcynic

Member
painted wolf said:
Creator said to us that all things in creation are equil, and that all thing deserve respect.

I plan to respect future generations by not having children untill I am ready to have them and take care of them to the best of my abilitiy.

Birth control is how I plan to show that respect.

wa:do
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I agree wholeheartedly with your point of view, Painted Wolf however, there is a slight problem. If anti-choice groups have their way most forms of birth control which have the highest success rate in preventing unwanted pregnancy will be illegal and thus unavailable to use.
 
Ceridwen018

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
. i bet my allowance on it.
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Ugh, don't do that, lol.

Why any man would want to have a baby is beyond me!

....If what you predict does come to pass, do you think it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment to give a man the ability to bear children and therefore a menstrual cycle? Crime would clear up real fast, lemme tell ya.
 
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trishtrish10

Active Member
how do u determine what is good and just the opposite? since we r all in this world together, we must have laws that are just. it is unjust to take an innocent life. that's a given in every nation.
 
painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
who's talking aobut taking an innocent life? we are discussing birth control... keeping a sperm and an egg apart is not taking life...

since we are all in this world together we must take responcibility for our own future and prevent over-population.

wa:do
 
Green Gaia

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
trishtrish10 said:
sorry, abortificeint. left out the n. ha!
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Actually it's spelled 'abortifacient', and no the pill in not abortifacient which means 'causing abortion: used to describe a drug or device that causes abortion'. The pill prevents a pregnancy, and does not end one.
 
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civilcynic

Member
Maize said:
Actually it's spelled 'abortifacient', and no the pill in not abortifacient which means 'causing abortion: used to describe a drug or device that causes abortion'. The pill prevents a pregnancy, and does not end one.
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Maize, I beg to differ but the birth control pill is considered an abortifacient. One of the ways it works is by preventing a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall....it allows the fertilized egg to be sloughed off during the menstrual cycle
 
painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
The pill is not an abortifact it does not terminate a pregnancy it prevents the egg from attaching to the uterine wall thus no pregnancy can occur....

pregnancy begins when a fertilized egg embeds itself in the uterine wall...no implantation no pregnancy... no pregnancy no abortion.

you must be thinking of RU486.... not the birth control pill and not the 'morning after pill' called PlanB.

to learn more about the facts of how the birh control pill REALY works please go to University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology info site at Virtual Hospital : http://www.vh.org/adult/patient/obgyn/contraceptivepill/

wa:do
 
Green Gaia

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
I see, I thought it prevented the egg from becoming fertitized at all. But then I've never used the pill lol. But I still don't see what the problem would be with that. A fertilized egg cannot survive if it does not attach to the uterine wall, and many times does not on it's own and is eliminated with the menstrual cycle anyway. At this point, it's just a cluster of cells.
 
Pah

Pah

Uber all member
Maize said:
Actually it's spelled 'abortifacient', and no the pill in not abortifacient which means 'causing abortion: used to describe a drug or device that causes abortion'. The pill prevents a pregnancy, and does not end one.
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Some formulations of the oral contraceptive medicine have little or no estrogen. Estorgen is targeted at ovulation.The inclusion of progesterone at differing strengths produces different effects one of which is change to the endometruim causing the loss of a zygote. Though not touted as a "morning after" pill as the French import is, it does have that effect.

-pah-
 
Pah

Pah

Uber all member
trishtrish10 said:
ru486-----are u for death? u know the evilest thing in the world is to call evil good.
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Yep - the termination of human life, just like tumors and warts

-pah-
 
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civilcynic

Member
The pill is labeled an abortifacient because it will work not allow a fertilized egg to maintian implantation onto the uterine wall. As a result, most anti-choice individuals oppose the pill (not to be confused with RU 486) and IUD because a fertilied egg (in their eyes) from the moment of conception becomes life and interfering with it is murder.
 
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