Why I Hate, Hate, Hate Religion!

DakotaGypsy said:

To be quite sure, Mike, as long as Atheists keep their mouths shut and don't own up to being Atheists.

Meanwhile, countless Christians persecute other Christians, as do Muslims persecute other Muslims and it does not present a very good example of how wonderful and loving religion is.

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to be honest, i don't understand what you are trying to say here........ not every christian persecutes people, not every muslim persecutes people, but in general, every group of people have been persecuted at some point in time. im sorry, but the argument of "we get stick for our beliefs (or lack there of)" holds no water with me, because i get stick for my beliefs as well!

DakotaGypsy said:

When people are forced to be Atheists, isn't that like religion?

If you are an Atheist, you should be such because you are an adult who has reached the age of reason, you have carefully studied a number of religions to make sure that you are making the right decision about being an Atheist, it should be your decision alone. Atheistic proselytization is forbidden, at least as far as my concept of Atheism goes.

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RESON??? How foolish. There is no reson! ylnO ssendam! There is no truth! ylnO noitpecrep!
There is no reson within us. We humans are doomed to be madmen. I for one do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minuet of it!!! :areyoucra

well some one needs to spread some karma, bless everybody

Yes, there has never been any religion that has not caused some act of violence, usually on a very very large scale.

Maxist said:

Yes, there has never been any religion that has not caused some act of violence, usually on a very very large scale.

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Uh oh, what have those scientologists gone done now?

and the buddhists and other pacifist religions

*cough*

I pray for you...

The reason behind violence isn't "religion", it's "religions".

The Bible can be interpretted falsely, and it is. Is it not Christ who preacged love and peace? Most religions start on a personal dissatisfaction with another.

It's a cycle:
Man hates Church.
Man starts "church" under God.
Man becomes corrupt.
Church becomes corrupt.

That is the cycle for most religions. Corruption starts with hate. Right now the US is "evil" to some fundamentallists. They break off. They hate a group. They become corrupt with hatred.

Only Christ teaches that Love is Truth. But then people ignore that.

Also, pay attention to what you are saying. No offense, but Catholicism and Prodestantism together only make up a portion of Christianity, and Orthodoxy is the Truth.

The Orthodox Church is still a religion, therefore its in the cycle. But what's different is the speed of the cycle. Right now we remain mostly pure of corruption by believing in self-servitude. We have not changed for 1900 years!

Please do not think all religions are evil and corrupt.

God Bless,
-Paladin

theonepaladin said:

I pray for you...

The reason behind violence isn't "religion", it's "religions".

The Bible can be interpretted falsely, and it is. Is it not Christ who preacged love and peace? Most religions start on a personal dissatisfaction with another.

It's a cycle:
Man hates Church.
Man starts "church" under God.
Man becomes corrupt.
Church becomes corrupt.

That is the cycle for most religions. Corruption starts with hate. Right now the US is "evil" to some fundamentallists. They break off. They hate a group. They become corrupt with hatred.

Only Christ teaches that Love is Truth. But then people ignore that.

Also, pay attention to what you are saying. No offense, but Catholicism and Prodestantism together only make up a portion of Christianity, and Orthodoxy is the Truth.

The Orthodox Church is still a religion, therefore its in the cycle. But what's different is the speed of the cycle. Right now we remain mostly pure of corruption by believing in self-servitude. We have not changed for 1900 years!

Please do not think all religions are evil and corrupt.

God Bless,
-Paladin

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Dude, this thread is three years old. I don't think the OP poster is still here.

Actually, I don't dislike religion so much for the well-known evils that have been done over the millenea, but for the evils that have been pepertrated under the facade of goodness that have been done in the name of religion.

DakotaGypsy said:

First of all, I must apologize, as a newbie to this site, for starting two new threads. I realize that it is not a polite thing for me to do, but I have concerns. Let me explain my angst about religion.

Today’s headline in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer alludes to the increasing level of violence in Iraq between the Sunni and Shi’ite Muslims.
To me, an Atheist, it is just one more occurrence in the strange, hate-filled eccentricity of the human race, religion.

Catholics rage at and kill Protestants. Protestants rage at and kill Protestants. If they run out of Christians to hate, they go after Muslims and other religions.

Muslims do the same things, they fight amongst themselves and they fight and kill people who do not follow their religion.

Buddhists, being almost Atheistic, are somewhat better, but they, too, have had their periods of murderous excess. Not to mention Hindus, Jews, and just about any religion you can name.

I vowed, in the aftermath of September 11, 2001, never again to be anything but an Atheist!

No Atheist hi-jacked those commercial jets.

No Atheist attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Only a bunch of fools who did such heinous acts in the name of their unholy god.

To me, all gods are unholy and unjust and lead humanity into evil.

A pox upon all religion.

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It's actually hate that commit's these attrocities not religion. A pox on anybody that hate's.

its religions, now it reads like you put a pox on a religion named all

theonepaladin said:

Right now we remain mostly pure of corruption

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I don't think you've known as many bishops as I have.

logician said:

Actually, I don't dislike religion so much for the well-known evils that have been done over the millenea, but for the evils that have been pepertrated under the facade of goodness that have been done in the name of religion.

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Exactly. It's not just that so many religious adherents commit evil, but also that so many religions teach evil as good.

Or as Russell said: "[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif]Clergymen almost necessarily fail in two ways as teachers of morals. They condemn acts which do no harm and they condone acts which do great harm.[/FONT]"

DakotaGypsy said:

First of all, I must apologize, as a newbie to this site, for starting two new threads. I realize that it is not a polite thing for me to do, but I have concerns. Let me explain my angst about religion.

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Your hatred is not new. It is a common theme of people who do not know better.

DakotaGypsy said:

Today’s headline in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer alludes to the increasing level of violence in Iraq between the Sunni and Shi’ite Muslims.
To me, an Atheist, it is just one more occurrence in the strange, hate-filled eccentricity of the human race, religion.

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Sunni's and Shi'ites have been killing each other forever. It is the same as Hatfield and McCoy, they been killing each other so long they don't even know why they still fight.

DakotaGypsy said:

Catholics rage at and kill Protestants. Protestants rage at and kill Protestants. If they run out of Christians to hate, they go after Muslims and other religions.

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Huh? I have not heard of Catholics and Protestants killing each other since the IRA denounced terrorism and stopped its activities.

DakotaGypsy said:

Muslims do the same things, they fight amongst themselves and they fight and kill people who do not follow their religion.

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Lots of Muslims where I live, never even had an ill word with one of them. Let alone had to defend myself. You watch too much T.V.

DakotaGypsy said:

I vowed, in the aftermath of September 11, 2001, never again to be anything but an Atheist!

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Then the terrorist succeeded with you. They forced you to change. You have given in to their terrorism.

DakotaGypsy said:

No Atheist hi-jacked those commercial jets.

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No but plenty of Atheist are cold blooded murderers just the same as someone of a religion.

DakotaGypsy said:

No Atheist attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

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Well of course Atheism is pure and innocent. Oh wait:
Marxism is the political philosophy and practice derived from the work of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Marxism in theory is known as a economic political theory that states that law is an instrument of oppression and control, and that the ruling classes use against the working class. Marxism holds at its core a critical analysis of capitalism and a theory of social change. The powerful and innovative analytical methods Marx introduced have influenced a broad range of disciplines. In the 21st century, Marxist approaches have a theoretical presence in the Western academic fields of archaeology/anthropology,[1] media studies,[2] political science, theater, history, sociological theory, education, economics,[3] literary criticism, aesthetics, critical psychology and philosophy. From Wikipedia. Marxism is a variant of atheism so to say atheism is flawless or better than religion is simply just not correct.

DakotaGypsy said:

Only a bunch of fools who did such heinous acts in the name of their unholy god.

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Careful on the personal attacks, or you will get banned in no time.

DakotaGypsy said:

To me, all gods are unholy and unjust and lead humanity into evil.

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There would be evil without religion. Then who would your blame for your problems? The tooth fairy?

DakotaGypsy said:

A pox upon all religion.

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Ewwwwww an atheist curse. How cute is that.

You thought nothing through and developed a STUPID and rash conclusion... Muslims hijacked those commercial jets. Muslims crashed into the TT. When is the last time a Hindu or Buddhist did anything of the sort?

DakotaGypsy said:

First of all, I must apologize, as a newbie to this site, for starting two new threads. I realize that it is not a polite thing for me to do, but I have concerns. Let me explain my angst about religion.

Today’s headline in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer alludes to the increasing level of violence in Iraq between the Sunni and Shi’ite Muslims.
To me, an Atheist, it is just one more occurrence in the strange, hate-filled eccentricity of the human race, religion.

Catholics rage at and kill Protestants. Protestants rage at and kill Protestants. If they run out of Christians to hate, they go after Muslims and other religions.

Muslims do the same things, they fight amongst themselves and they fight and kill people who do not follow their religion.

Buddhists, being almost Atheistic, are somewhat better, but they, too, have had their periods of murderous excess. Not to mention Hindus, Jews, and just about any religion you can name.

I vowed, in the aftermath of September 11, 2001, never again to be anything but an Atheist!

No Atheist hi-jacked those commercial jets.

No Atheist attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Only a bunch of fools who did such heinous acts in the name of their unholy god.

To me, all gods are unholy and unjust and lead humanity into evil.

A pox upon all religion.

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Religions don't kill people, people kill people.

Also, it's a good thing we never hear of an atheist commiting a crime in the name of atheism. Atheism doesn't kill people......atheists do?

sandy whitelinger said:

Religions don't kill people, people kill people.

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Yeah, but nothing else makes murder feel quite so righteous and justified as when you're doing it for the glory of god! Amen!

sandy whitelinger said:

Also, it's a good thing we never hear of an atheist commiting a crime in the name of atheism.

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Actually, I've never heard of an atheist committing a crime in the name of atheism -- probably because atheism is not a belief system or school of thought. An atheist may adopt some belief system and kill in the name of that belief system, but not in the name of atheism as such.

Smoke said:

Actually, I've never heard of an atheist committing a crime in the name of atheism -- probably because atheism is not a belief system or school of thought. An atheist may adopt some belief system and kill in the name of that belief system, but not in the name of atheism as such.

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Though I think the same thing can be said for Theist and Theism. Theism isn't a belief system. But a Theist can adopt some belief system and can kill in the name of that belief system, but not in the name of Theism.