Student Protests Against Israel Are Wonderful

[Revoltingest]

You're the one....

Let's graduate from elementary school, eh.
Try to discuss the issues.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't have time to provide basic education for those posters who come to debates uninformed.

But you make so much time to argue
how little time you have to support
your claims.
If you supported your claims initially,
you'd be spared the effort of continually
refusing to support them.

 

[icehorse]

But you make so much time to argue
how little time you have to support
your claims.
If you supported your claims initially,
you'd be spared the effort of continually
refusing to support them.

If you and your ilk stopped bleating for unnecessary citations the rest of us could actually discuss and debate ideas.

 

[Sargonski]

No it's not. Hamas wants Jews eradicated from the face of the earth. The damn j ews just won't shut up and take it huh?

Hamas does not speak for the wants and desires of the 15,000 exterminated Palestinian Babies or the Palestinians in general .. which is why collective punishment is a war crime .. along with violation of the Rule of Law principle .. one person not to be punished for the action of another.

That said .. picking sides in a blood-feud on the basis of which side hates the other more .. is about as ludicrous as it gets . Your claim that one side hates the other more ..a pile of ridiculous nonsense .. that even if were true is irrelevant. Does the persecuted not hate the persecutor more ?

Complete disingenuous oblivion and sin of omission aside .. in a doublespeak mirroring attempt .. claim Hamas is desirous of what Israel is actually doing .. and publicly announced .. which is trying to Eradicate the nasty indigenous brown Arabs from the land .. "Cleanse the Land" as per the Zionist Charter.

Hey Iggy -- it is the Zionist Charter to erradicate those nasty brown arabs from the face of the land .. and how did you put it "The damn dirty arabs wont shut up and take it huh? " Priceless Projection .. need to grab hold of big big log in own eye .. prior to whining about the flaws of your brother from another mother.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you and your ilk...

"Ilk" is such a wonderful word.
The sound is so suggestive of derision.

Anyway, I see that you continue using your
valuable time to argue about how little time
you have. This suggests some dysfunction.
Give that some thought.

 

[icehorse]

"Ilk" is such a wonderful word.
The sound is so suggestive of derision.

Anyway, I see that you continue using your
valuable time to argue about how little time
you have. This suggests some dysfunction.
Give that some thought.

Save yourself time and don't hand out life advice, you appear to be under qualified for the task.

 

[fantome profane]

Who have no idea what my sources are and you seem to be discounting my ability to look at the evidence in the world and think for myself.

Do I have that correct?



We hear over and over again how, prior to last fall's attack, Gaza was "an open air prison" and "under apartheid" and so on. All of the protests were anti-Israel. None acknowledged Hamas's role in making Gaza horrible for the last 20 years.

Are we to ignore all of that?

Ok, that is all true and we should acknowledge it.

In what manner should this affect our attitudes towards people who are starving to death at this very moment? Should the fact that these people suffered at the hand of Hamas make us feel better about children being bombed?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

They seem to me to be driven by over simplistic woke ignorance. A lot of it I think is based in the "oppressed vs. oppressor" worldview.

Literally two posts later:

I think it is you who are misunderstanding. In the ME it is Israel who is oppressed.

Having fun peddling your simplistic woke ignorance?

 

[Revoltingest]

Save yourself time...

I'm not the one complaining about lack of time.

 

[icehorse]

Ok, that is all true and we should acknowledge it.

In what manner should this affect our attitudes towards people who are starving to death at this very moment? Should the fact that these people suffered at the hand of Hamas make us feel better about children being bombed?

The world has stood aside and done nothing for 20 years. The world has left it up to Israel to deal with these Jihadists. It's now time for the world to step up and help to eradicate Hamas so that Palestinians can be saved.

 

[icehorse]

Literally two posts later:


Having fun peddling your simplistic woke ignorance?

Indeed, when trying to communicate with a woke, "oppressed vs. oppressor" worldview, sometimes you have to simplify the argument.

 

[Revoltingest]

The world has stood aside and done nothing for 20 years.

USA has been giving money & military aid for Israel
to use to enforce apartheid, & commit many various
human rights violations.
I call that far more & far worse than "nothing".
It's the kind of brutal behavior by USA That led to 9/11.

 

[icehorse]

USA has been giving money & military aid for Israel
to use to enforce apartheid, & commit many various
human rights violations.
I call that far more & far worse than "nothing".
It's the kind of brutal behavior by USA That led to 9/11.

The world stood together to fight ISIS. The world should have been standing together to fight Hamas.

 

[Revoltingest]

The world stood together to fight ISIS. The world should have been standing together to fight Hamas.

The western world stood with Israel to impose apartheid,
murder, theft, torture, & economic woe.
Now it should stand together to stop Israel's genocide,
& impose justice for Muslims / Palestinians / non-Jews.

 

[icehorse]

The western world stood with Israel to impose apartheid,
murder, theft, torture, & economic woe.
Now it should stand together to stop Israel's genocide,
& impose justice for Muslims / Palestinians / non-Jews.

so wildly inaccurate

 

[fantome profane]

The world has stood aside and done nothing for 20 years. The world has left it up to Israel to deal with these Jihadists. It's now time for the world to step up and help to eradicate Hamas so that Palestinians can be saved.

But the way to eliminate Hamas is to do the exact opposite of what Israel is doing. Provide people with what they need to survive and prosper and the Palestinians will turn against Hamas and kick them out. What they are doing now only makes Hamas stronger.

 

[icehorse]

But the way to eliminate Hamas is to do the exact opposite of what Israel is doing. Provide people with what they need to survive and prosper and the Palestinians will turn against Hamas and kick them out. What they are doing now only makes Hamas stronger.

But Hamas has been stealing aid intended for Gazans, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

Why haven't the aid givers put their foot down - years ago.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If you and your ilk stopped bleating for unnecessary citations the rest of us could actually discuss and debate ideas.

So it's unnecessary to request people follow normal debate and burden of proof standards?

 

[fantome profane]

But Hamas has been stealing aid intended for Gazans, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

Why haven't the aid givers put their foot down - years ago.

Is that your rational for doing the wrong thing now? Because we didn't do the right thing years ago?

 

[Revoltingest]

so wildly inaccurate

Zionists live in a very different reality.
One that means they commit no crimes
against humanity....even when doing
exactly that. (IMO)