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So why doesn't god heal amputees?

Prometheus

Semper Perconctor
why is that? does he have a grudge against cripples in general? they are not worthy?

Obviously something like that.

Katzpur had it right when she was being sarcastic.

Leviticus 21:16-21

16 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

17 Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.

18 For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,

19 Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,

20 Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;

21 No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.

God really doesn't think cripples are worthy
 

FFH

Veteran Member
God really doesn't think cripples are worthy
Dude, that is so messed up...

That only applied to the seed of Aaron, who were responsible for carrying out certain Levitical priesthood duties and it had nothing to do with worthiness....it was only symbolic of Christ and his purity, who was the lamb that was slain, without blemish...

The priests officiating in the animal sacrifices and bread offerings were to also be without blemish...

Just symbolism, that's all, nothing more..
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Dude, that is so messed up...

That only applied to the seed of Aaron, who were responsible for carrying out certain Levitical priesthood duties and it had nothing to do with worthiness....it was only symbolic of Christ and his purity, who was the lamb that was slaoin, without blemish...

The priests officiating in the animal sacrifices and bread offerings were to also be without blemish...

Just symbolism, that's all, nothing more..
Just symbolism?
Tell that to animals that were sacrificed.
I bet they would disagree.
 

Special Revelation

Active Member
Christians give him him credit for healing pretty much most thing that we have cure for, but never has he just spontaneously healed an amputees missing limb i the same manner. why is that? does he have a grudge against cripples in general? they are not worthy?

darn it, the title should read "why doesnt god heal amputees'........i hate myself.......

God heals for His own purpose and glory.

John 9 Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

Having said this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes. "Go," he told him, "wash in the Pool of Siloam" (this word means Sent). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing.

His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging asked, "Isn't this the same man who used to sit and beg?" Some claimed that he was.
Others said, "No, he only looks like him."
But he himself insisted, "I am the man."
"How then were your eyes opened?" they demanded.
He replied, "The man they call Jesus made some mud and put it on my eyes.

He told me to go to Siloam and wash. So I went and washed, and then I could see."
"Where is this man?" they asked him.

"I don't know," he said. They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind. Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened the man's eyes was a Sabbath. Therefore the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. "He put mud on my eyes," the man replied, "and I washed, and now I see."

Some of the Pharisees said, "This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath."

But others asked, "How can a sinner do such miraculous signs?" So they were divided.
Finally they turned again to the blind man, "What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened."

The man replied, "He is a prophet."

The Jews still did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight until they sent for the man's parents. "Is this your son?" they asked. "Is this the one you say was born blind? How is it that now he can see?"

"We know he is our son," the parents answered, "and we know he was born blind. But how he can see now, or who opened his eyes, we don't know. Ask him. He is of age; he will speak for himself." His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jews, for already the Jews had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Christ would be put out of the synagogue. That was why his parents said, "He is of age; ask him."

A second time they summoned the man who had been blind. "Give glory to God," they said. "We know this man is a sinner."

He replied, "Whether he is a sinner or not, I don't know. One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!"

Then they asked him, "What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?"
He answered, "I have told you already and you did not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you want to become his disciples, too?"

Then they hurled insults at him and said, "You are this fellow's disciple! We are disciples of Moses! We know that God spoke to Moses, but as for this fellow, we don't even know where he comes from."

The man answered, "Now that is remarkable! You don't know where he comes from, yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly man who does his will. Nobody has ever heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing."

To this they replied, "You were steeped in sin at birth; how dare you lecture us!" And they threw him out. Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"

"Who is he, sir?" the man asked. "Tell me so that I may believe in him."
Jesus said, "You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you."
Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him.
Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind."

Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked, "What? Are we blind too?" Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
 

Prometheus

Semper Perconctor
Dude, that is so messed up...

That only applied to the seed of Aaron, who were responsible for carrying out certain Levitical priesthood duties and it had nothing to do with worthiness....it was only symbolic of Christ and his purity, who was the lamb that was slain, without blemish...

The priests officiating in the animal sacrifices and bread offerings were to also be without blemish...

Just symbolism, that's all, nothing more..

That it applies to anyone at all ever is enough to prove my point. God found people with these blemishes unworthy and thus finds having physical handicaps to be something that is "unclean." That is just disgusting to me.
 

may

Well-Known Member
Jesus showed on a small scale how people will be healed on a large scale , great things are ahead for those who want it .
Jehovah promises "the curing of the nations." (Revelation 22:2)
And he will not only heal sicknesses but do away with death.
Jesus will again perform cures like those recorded in the Bible but on a far grander scale. He will even resurrect the dead! (John 5:28, 29) great things are ahead for those who want it .all of this will happen
In God’s new world, which, according to all the evidence, is close at hand.
 

des

Active Member
Hah! Re: stem cell. But I definitely agree with your post re: one's happiness etc. not really being a topic for debate. I have, in my life, definitely gone thru hard times and my beliefs didn't have all that much to do with it, imo. Someone actually might be depressed and this can be a chemical thing. Or perhaps this person has never accepted his/her disability. This takes time in life and it is easy for someone else to say how adjusted some other person should be. I know as I had to accept both autism and epilepsy-- and it was very hard.

BTW,someone mentioned the deaf do not like the term "hearing impaired". They don't as they have their own culture that I got to experience a little of once and it was a beautiful thing. Sign is a wonderful language, though I am pretty lousy at it.

The whole thing is acceptance and being able to figure out how to get around the disability. There are very happy amputees, and may you be one someday as well.

I wouldn't worry about whether or not "god hates amputees". Any god that does isn't worth your time of day.
Go find another one or so or none at all.


--des

The Republicans told me it is because HE is antistemcell research. (just a joke)

If you wish to talk privately about this subject and your personal dealings with your feelings, I'm always here. Just PM me. We'll talk it out. I'm one bad step away from a new leg myself.... have been since I was 12.

PS- I don't think this is a debate people..... they have things they want to get out.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
That it applies to anyone at all ever is enough to prove my point. God found people with these blemishes unworthy and thus finds having physical handicaps to be something that is "unclean." That is just disgusting to me.
You're still missing the point..

Read the account of the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb".

When Christ calls us forth from this earth most will be too caught up with the things of this world to the point in which they will not be ready when he comes. Those who look forward to his coming are those with physical and mental disabilities, for they know that it is Chirst who will restore their bodies and make them whole again. The poor also look forward to his coming, for they know that the riches of eternity far surpass the riches of this life could ever offer them, which have alluded them for whatever reason...

3 Nephi 17: 7 (Book of Mormon)

Have ye any that are sick among you? Bring them hither. Have ye any that are lame, or blind, or halt, or maimed (physically disabled and amputees), or leprous, or that are withered, or that are deaf, or that are afflicted in any manner? Bring them hither and I will heal them, for I have compassion upon you; my bowels are filled with mercy.


Christ wants to heal all our afflictions, whatever we ask in faith, believing, we will receive. This is a promise. Do we even think to ask in faith, believing we will receive ??? Most of us just think it's pointless to ask...

I asked for a healing and I received it...

My foot was so badly injured in a motorcycle accident that It took over a year to completely recover. There really isn't much that can be done for foot injuries.

My foot had turned grey, yellow, purple, etc.. and was swollen for over a year. Believe me it was messed up...

It was only through prayer and a few blessings that I was able to regain the use of my foot again over a year and three months later...

The inner core of my foot, soft tissue and bones, felt dead and damaged, and that part was healed, after I had asked for it, three months into the injury, but only to the point in which I knew the rest would eventually heal naturally, which I had asked for. The swelling persisited for over a year. I never thought to ask for a complete healing, just for the bones to heal properly, until a year and three months later, when I became desperate, because I was running out of money and had to get back to work. My wife asked some neighbors to come over and give me a blessing, Immediately it was healed to the point in which I could walk on it for extended periods of time, without it freezing, cramping or swelling up on me, and I was immediately accepted back by my old boss...

Do we even think to ask God in faith to heal whatever it is that's afflicting us ??? That's half the battle, then we only need to believe that God is willing and that he has the power to do it...

God is willing and he has the power to do all things if we ask in faith believing he can do all things...

God heals amputees, they just never think to ask...

God does not want us to suffer, he wants to alleiviate suffering..
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
There is an interseting conversation that GOD and I had that I would like to share that would probably help to describe the challenges we choose before coming into this physical existence.

Cardero: Let us take it at the moment we are preparing to incarnate back to earth and so…what happens?

GOD: That is a fine place to start. I can answer this for YOU. REMEMBER that YOUR existence in the spirit world is coming full circle and YOU are now ready to descend to earth. To explain this theory further, here’s an example. Let's say YOU and another person are leaving the spiritual realm and preparing to occupy physical bodies.

Cardero: What's the other person's name?

GOD: It doesn't matter what the other person's name is. Now stay with ME. Are YOU with ME?

I'm right behind you.

Okay, just to show YOU I AM a loving GOD, I want to say you both have been created equally and I LOVE both of you fairly. I AM now going to explain this in terms that will help YOU UNDERSTAND this transition to earth.
Now let's say I give YOU and this other person $500.

Say, you are a loving GOD!!

Yes, quite. Wait though, there's one catch. YOU and this other person can't take this money with YOU when YOU enter the physical realm.

Well, that stinks. Why not?

Let's just say YOU both have no place to put a wallet where YOU'RE going.

Gotcha.

So YOU both have $500 to spend but YOU have to spend it in the spiritual realm. What would YOU spend it on?

I don't know what the other person would buy, but I would put the money back in the Bank of Heaven and let the interest build so when I return, I would have more money for whatever purpose you had for me with the original $500.

Cute. Keep in mind it is a "use it or lose it" situation. YOU have to spend the money when I give it to YOU because YOU can't take it with YOU.

Then I would use it to grease your palms in hope you’ll make my stay on earth more prosperous.

Now YOU're thinking, except that YOU don't have to bribe ME. The money belongs to YOU – unconditionally from ME to YOU. Now, let's say I give YOU this application, and on it is a list of preferences YOU would want to have featured in YOUR next life.

For example?

Okay, here's one. In your next life you would like to have:
A. Green eyes - $12.00
B. Blue eyes - $10.00
C. Brown eyes - $5.00
D. Blindness - $0.00

I'll go for the green eyes.

YOU have expensive tastes. YOUR father has green eyes so at least YOU will look like YOU belong in YOUR new family. Now, do YOU want 20/20 vision for YOUR whole life? That's another $10.00. Or do YOU want the 15-year plan for an extra $1.50 but after 15 years, YOU will have to experience prescription glasses.

Hey! What's your racket!?

No racket. Just pick one, please.

I'll go for the 15-year plan.

Admirable choice. Do YOU want the shape of YOUR father's eyes or YOUR mother's?

I don't know – surprise me.

There are no surprises with GOD; please pick one.

I'll go with my mother's shape; my father's eyes are too buggy.

Excellent choice. That will BE another $1.00.

What!! I have the eyes; the least you can do is throw in the shape. I mean…

Wait – there's more –

Geesh, how much do you charge to keep them in my head?

For YOU, because I like YOU, 50 cents.

I'm down $14.50 and we haven't even got to my hearing yet.

OH! Did YOU want to hear?

Okay, I think I get the picture now. By the way, what did the other person choose?

Let's say the other person chose to BE born blind.

Sure, why not. Now he can spend the rest of his money on a great body. That's just great!

See?! Now YOU're getting it. That's exactly how to look at it.

So what is "standard" in this deal?

That's the beauty of it. Nothing is standard. EveryONE is different. YOU get to pick YOUR challenges and YOUR experiences. Do YOU UNDERSTAND? Nothing is assured in life unless YOU make it so. That is the perfection.

Sounds more like a scam.

Who's ripping YOU off? No one. YOU have total control over YOUR next life. That is why I used the analogy with the money. EveryONE starts out with the same choices. You ALL get $500 and you ALL must spend it before you depart. What you do with that money is entirely up to you. Do not expect the person next to you to pick the same choices. They might want blue eyes in this life. The choice is theirs. YOU cannot say it isn't fair. Let's say YOU spent ALL of YOUR money on BEing musical. The other person might have been there and done that already in a past life and want to enter the field of engineering this time around.

I'm sure the field of engineering is cheaper, right?

WE have to make allowances with these types of professions because the cost of schooling is so outrageous on YOUR planet.

And the cheapest profession is...?

Beachcomber.

(sigh)

Why are YOU disappointed? Did YOU not spend the money I have given YOU?

Yeah, but I could have been rich by now and picked a lawyer or a doctor.

Do it next time. The choices are the same. It's what YOU do with those choices that make YOU who YOU are.

Well, I'm an artist, and I'm starving. Thanks.

YOU are starving because that is what YOU chose to do with that talent. The gifts are there. I AM looking at YOUR contract now, signature and ALL. Artist is checked off. Musician is checked off. Writer, reader, witty conversationalist, animal LOVER, poet, actor, minister; ALL checked off.

And what do you get out of all this?

What do YOU mean?

Aww c'mon. Tell me you don't get a percentage out of this. Try to tell me GOD isn't on the "take."

I assure YOU the only pleasure I derive comes from YOU experiencing and discovering YOU.


HELLO IT'S ME: An Interview WIth GOD
Chapter: Death Before Life or All The Worlds A Stage
Pg: 80-86
 

Special Revelation

Active Member
You would have to ask them. I surely don't. God is Spirit and deals in the spiritual realm.

God heals physically and spiritually for His own purpose and glory.

Luke 7:22:
So he replied to the messengers, "Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.
 

RevOxley_501

Well-Known Member
Christians give him him credit for healing pretty much most thing that we have cure for, but never has he just spontaneously healed an amputees missing limb i the same manner. why is that? does he have a grudge against cripples in general? they are not worthy?

darn it, the title should read "why doesnt god heal amputees'........i hate myself.......


I would say he doesnt heal them because he has a fetish for Hobblers...but i cant verify that

my other answer, is that He leaves that to Prosthetics clinicians
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
***MOD POST***
Let's be respectful to one another's feelings and not use terms that people are finding offensive.
 
my Mom was a double amputee -- wonder if she is in a wheelchair in the afterlife? would suck if she is crawling around somewhere without any assistance or prosthetic legs since they didnt go with her
 

may

Well-Known Member
my Mom was a double amputee -- wonder if she is in a wheelchair in the afterlife? would suck if she is crawling around somewhere without any assistance or prosthetic legs since they didnt go with her
according to the bible she is in Jehovahs memmory, and at a future time she will be resurrected back to the new paradise earth , with legs, but at the momment she has gone to dust like everyone else does, the resurrection will be a great thing to behold. there is no afterlife , but there is a future resurrection . great things are ahead , i cant wait to see the marvels of the most high.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
If you are superstitious, then you believe that God CAUSED the afliction. So why should God then contradict himself and heal it? If you are not superstitious, then you probably don't believe that God causes or heals such aflictions, but that they are instead just a part of existence, as human beings.

I don't believe that God acts unnaturally. Therefor, God DOES heal our wounds, but does so by natural means.
 

Special Revelation

Active Member
If you are superstitious, then you believe that God CAUSED the afliction. So why should God then contradict himself and heal it? If you are not superstitious, then you probably don't believe that God causes or heals such aflictions, but that they are instead just a part of existence, as human beings.

I don't believe that God acts unnaturally. Therefor, God DOES heal our wounds, but does so by natural means.

Lamentations 3:37-48:
Who is he who speaks and it comes to pass, if the Lord has not authorized and commanded it?
Is it not out of the mouth of the Most High that evil and good both proceed [adversity and prosperity, physical evil or misfortune and physical good or happiness]?

Philippians 1:29:
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for him,

All people suffer and die in this world. This is a universal truth regardless what you believe. However, those who are Christians, suffering has a purpose. The Bible reveals that we live in a fallen and sinned cursed world (Genesis 3) due to the sin of Adam and Eve (rebellion against God). If you reject Biblical truth, I would like to hear your explanation why all people suffer and die.
 

rojse

RF Addict
Considering the numerous amount of times that people have lost arms or legs, and only the few times that have been shown on here that people have even partially regrown that limb, both in the Bible, and today, how effective would god be measured this manner?

One of my mother's friends lost a limb in a car accident. God did not give her a limb, but she did get a prosthetic limb. It seems if I have an accident, I had best rely on humans rather than God.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
If God did heal an amputee, no atheist would acknowledge that He had anything to do with it. For this reason, I'm baffled as to why an atheist would ask this question in the first place.
 
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