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WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
And the name of the man in the Bible that I'm talking about is Yehoshua, not Yeshua.
That is debatable. There is a good outline of the etymology and historical use of the name Yeshua from Yehoshus and the similarities and application to the name Jesus here if you are interested (Wikipedia). Its worth a read. There is lots of historical and archeological evidence for its use also in the Tanakh and application to the name Joshua.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
That is debatable.
No, its indisputable. I've literally cut and pasted from the Hebrew text. I don't know how well you read the Hebrew Alef Bet, but the HEY is right there in the name for all to see.
יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ which transliterates as Yehoshua, not Yeshua
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Of course it is disputable read the etymology and archeological Tanakh evidence and learn how (Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Jesus - Wikipedia).
No, no, no. I have PASTED the name יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ which transliterates as Yehoshua, not Yeshua. I have highlighted the letter HEY for you. It is the ה, and makes an H sound in English, IOW the h sound that you find in YeHoshua, but not in Yeshua.

If despite my being CRYSTAL CLEAR here, you still want to claim that יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ spells Yeshua, all I can do at that point is write you off as someone who imagines things.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
No, no, no. I have PASTED the name יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ which transliterates as Yehoshua, not Yeshua. I have highlighted the letter HEY for you. It is the ה, and makes an H sound in English, IOW the h sound that you find in YeHoshua, but not in Yeshua.

If despite my being CRYSTAL CLEAR here, you still want to claim that יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ spells Yeshua, all I can do at that point is write you off as someone who imagines things.
You cant see if you close your eyes and ears. Do you know what Etymology is? (Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia). No one is arguing what the first long form of the name is. The name Yeshua was known and used in Jewish history as the short form of the name Yehoshua – you can find men called Yeshua in the roll calls of teams serving in the temple (1 Chronicles 24:11, 2 Chronicles 31:15, Ezra 2:2,6,36). It’s a version of Joshua, and it means “salvation”. This also agrees to Matthew and the Angels command to call Messiahs name Jesus "because he will save His people from their sins". Same meaning and application as Yeshua but in Greek.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
You cant see if you close your eyes and ears. Do you know what Etymology is? (Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia). No one is arguing what the first form of the name is.
You cannot appeal to etymology here. The NAME is SPELLED יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ which transliterates as Yehoshua, not Yeshua.

Again, I was not talking about ANYONE other than Joshua, the direct succcessor to Moses. Your continued attempts to blur the conversation are not appreciated.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
You cannot appeal to etymology here. The NAME is SPELLED יְהוֹשֻׁ֣עַ which transliterates as Yehoshua, not Yeshua.

Again, I was not talking about ANYONE other than Joshua, the direct succcessor to Moses. Your continued attempts to blur the conversation are not appreciated.
Sure I can appeal to etymology. Name usage changes over time. Etymology proves historical use and evidence for the name Yehoshua being the long form of the name also applied and used for Yeshua the short form. This is also demonstrated in the Tanakh (see Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia).
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
No. You can't. In this case, etymology is irrelevant. What is relevant is the actual spelling of the name in Hebrew.
You clearly do not know what you are talking about. Etymology absolutely matters. Etymology proves historical use and evidence for the name Yehoshua being the long form of the name also applied and used for Yeshua the short form over time. This is also demonstrated in the Tanakh (see Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia).
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
I've given all the necessary evidence. You just don't like that you've been spanked. I'm going to move on to other conversations now. If you want to have the final word, go for it.
What is sad in my opinion is that you have been given evidence against your claims from the etymology of Yehoshua that proves the historical use of Yehoshua throughout time and its short form application to Yeshua even in the Tanakh including archeological evidence and its equivalent application to Joshua and its application to Jesus in the Greek as already shown to you in Wikipedia (see Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia). Once again you close your eyes and ears because you do not believe and follow what Gods Word says. The sad thing is that it is you that have been spanked but you did not even know it because you were unwilling to even read what was shared with you. Move on if you like but you need to learn no one can see and here if they willingly choose to close their eyes and ears according to the scriptures (Isaiah 6:9-10).
 
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2ndpillar

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And the name of the man in the Bible that I'm talking about is Yehoshua, not Yeshua.
I don't know, a minute ago you were calling him "Joshua". An English version versus an Aramaic version, which was the language used in the 1st century. And as for the original Hebrew language, there were no vowels, and your version, Yehoshua, didn't exist. And the oldest existing OT manuscripts, the dead Sea Scrolls, contain Aramaic writing, not a non-existing English language.
 
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2ndpillar

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You are ignoring what the complete post and scriptures are saying to you again in post # 1233 linked. King David is not Gods promised Messiah which was to come after him.
"David" is "My servant" who will be made the only shepherd, after the "shepherds of Israel" are judged, and the "fat" are "destroyed", at which time "David" will be made "prince" over them. At which time, "Israel" will no longer "endure the insults of the nations anymore" (Ez 34). I guess this will take place after the Harvard president, Ms Gay, is out of power.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
My screen name here at RF is "metis", so do any here want to argue as to whether this is correct? :rolleyes:
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I don't know, a minute ago you were calling him "Joshua".
I'm sure I don't need to inform you that "Joshua" is the standard Anglicization of Yehoshua.
An English version versus an Aramaic version, which was the language used in the 1st century. And as for the original Hebrew language, there were no vowels, and your version, Yehoshua, didn't exist. And the oldest existing OT manuscripts, the dead Sea Scrolls, contain Aramaic writing, not a non-existing English language.
That is not correct. The name Yehoshua has a HEY in it, and Yeshua does not.

Listen, I think you are pretending to not understand, when in fact you do. I have no idea what your reasons are for catfishing, nor do I care. I will not be replying further to this thread.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
I'm sure I don't need to inform you that "Joshua" is the standard Anglicization of Yehoshua.

That is not correct. The name Yehoshua has a HEY in it, and Yeshua does not.

Listen, I think you are pretending to not understand, when in fact you do. I have no idea what your reasons are for catfishing, nor do I care. I will not be replying further to this thread.
What is sad in my opinion is that you have been given evidence against your claims from the etymology of Yehoshua that proves the historical use of Yehoshua throughout time and its short form application to Yeshua even in the Tanakh including archeological evidence and its equivalent application to Joshua and its application to Jesus in the Greek as already shown to you in Wikipedia (see Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia). You are promoting falsehood as proven in the linked post here from Wikipedia.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
I'm sure I don't need to inform you that "Joshua" is the standard Anglicization of Yehoshua.

That is not correct. The name Yehoshua has a HEY in it, and Yeshua does not.

Listen, I think you are pretending to not understand, when in fact you do. I have no idea what your reasons are for catfishing, nor do I care. I will not be replying further to this thread.
Well, the standard 2nd Temple period Aramaic form of "Joshua" in the first century was Yeshua. What do you care what Anglos call someone? The meat is in the meaning of the name. Yeshua, or Joshua, your 17th century Anglo version. means YHWY saves, which means I am I am saves. Your Anglos refer to Yehoshua as "Jesus", not Joshua. A word that when vocalized, means "earth pig" in Latin, which gives no insight in the crux of the name. I agree with Hosea 4:6:
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Well, the standard 2nd Temple period Aramaic form of "Joshua" in the first century was Yeshua. What do you care what Anglos call someone? The meat is in the meaning of the name. Yeshua, or Joshua, your 17th century Anglo version. means YHWY saves, which means I am I am saves. Your Anglos refer to Yehoshua as "Jesus", not Joshua. A word that when vocalized, means "earth pig" in Latin, which gives no insight in the crux of the name. I agree with Hosea 4:6:
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
You might find this helpful here. Yeshoshua to Yeshua to Joshua to Jesus - Wikipedia
 
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