Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?

[SkepticThinker]

"Some". I say far fewer than many think.

You may be right. Many have moved onto attacking trans people now that homosexuality has become somewhat more "acceptable."
Gotta have a boogeyman, I guess.

I'd suggest reading some posts from this thread, if you think people still don't marginalize and demonize gay people.

Also "some" gays are letting their imaginations run away with them and over blowing the syndrome.

I'm not gay, so I'll have to rely on their experiences, as they are related to me.

I do know that my cousin's daughter receives some bullying at school for having two moms. I know this because she told me.

 

[SkepticThinker]

False, Satan is a real being and not a concept.

Prove it. Then I'll believe it. Not before that.

Atheists even most Abrahamics don’t know this. But atheists can be oblivious to what they are actually worshiping and find out when it’s too late. There’s no excuse not believing, Romans 1.

LOL I don't worship anyone or anything. Telling me that I do isn't very convincing.

My excuse for not believing is the lack of good evidence. Show me some evidence, and I'll believe.

 

[SkepticThinker]

He doesn’t have any scientific evidence that disproves the existence of God, what I have said all along.

Burden of proof is on the believer. Not on people who don't believe. Don't be silly.

Do you spend all your time disproving the existence of vampires? If not, does that mean you believe vampires exist?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

He doesn’t have any scientific evidence that disproves the existence of God, what I have said all along.

He never claims he does.

 

[The Hammer]

Syndrome: (n)a group of symptoms which consistently occur together, or a condition characterized by a set of associated symptoms.

As in this case the syndrome of those that hate gays without cause.

I don't know why you are so hostile. Too much caffeine?

Quite possibly.

But given your posting history, I'll probably never be 100% cordial to you, but I do try to stay polite.

 

[Apostle John]

Burden of proof is on the believer. Not on people who don't believe. Don't be silly.

I don’t know where this ‘burden of proof is on the believer’ comes from, it keeps on being peddled but it’s not biblical and simply not true. Christians are only obliged to mention the Gospel and not give proof. Any burden is on the people who don’t believe in Christ because of the consequences described in the Bible. Seriously.

 

[Apostle John]

He never claims he does.

Why did he call one of his books ‘The God Delusion’ when he has nothing in terms of evidence, only belief. He must be a charlatan, a false prophet.

 

[F1fan]

False, Satan is a real being and not a concept.

I’m not convinced. You offer no facts, so we reject your claim.

Atheists even most Abrahamics don’t know

Given your posts you seem to exceed the average of not knowing things.

But atheists can be oblivious to what they are actually worshiping and find out when it’s too late. There’s no excuse not believing, Romans 1.

This is a unique claim that I’ve not seen before. No evidence, so we reject your claim.

 

[F1fan]

It was just to point out what is wrong with homosexuality. At least for same sex people who desire a biological family of their own but can't.

Not there is anything wrong in the context of two same sex partners.

That's why I bolded physical , not moral reasons.

It’s the same thing wrong with heterosexual couples that can’t get pregnant. There are solutions and they are often used to solve the problem.

Of course we don’t see Christian conservatives attack heterosexual couples, and especially not those who have reproductive issues. That’s the tradition of bigotry against homosexuals in the Abrahamic religions. This bigotry is still a problem for many American citizens who want equality like anyone else.

 

[Apostle John]

This is a unique claim that I’ve not seen before. No evidence, so we reject your claim.

It’s not unique or even my claim, it’s found in the Bible, this is the evidence you reject.

 

[F1fan]

It’s not unique or even my claim, it’s found in the Bible, this is the evidence you reject.

First, the Bible has no authority beyond those who give it authority for themselves. Second, what believers interpret the Bible to mean, is very broad and inconsistent. You seem to be a Christian extremist, and your interpretation of the Bible will be vastly different than a liberal Christian, or a moderate Christian, or even a conservative Christian. Third, you made no effort to show where in the Bible you think this is stated, so by default, we reject your claim. Forth, you keep making these superficial claims, but offer no reference, no citation, nor any sort of evidence that your claims are true. In a debate, there has to be some sort of argumentation that accompanies a claim, otherwise, it’s just a superficial statement, and by default we reject it. If that’s the best you can do that I debate form is probably not a good fit.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It’s the same thing wrong with heterosexual couples that can’t get pregnant. There are solutions and they are often used to solve the problem.

Of course we don’t see Christian conservatives attack heterosexual couples, and especially not those who have reproductive issues. That’s the tradition of bigotry against homosexuals in the Abrahamic religions. This bigotry is still a problem for many American citizens who want equality like anyone else.

Like I said multiple times already, it's not about the morality. Just physical.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I don’t know where this ‘burden of proof is on the believer’ comes from, it keeps on being peddled but it’s not biblical and simply not true.

It comes from following the rules of logic and reason.
It's how court cases are adjudicated.

Christians are only obliged to mention the Gospel and not give proof. Any burden is on the people who don’t believe in Christ because of the consequences described in the Bible. Seriously.

I guess you've never read I Peter 3:15 then?

Why did he call one of his books ‘The God Delusion’ when he has nothing in terms of evidence, only belief. He must be a charlatan, a false prophet.

I don't know. Maybe if you read it, you'll find your answer.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Like I said multiple times already, it's not about the morality. Just physical.

Well, the first step is maybe coming.

Scientists create mice from two dads after making eggs from skin cells

Scientists have created mice with two biologically male parents for the first time - a significant milestone in reproductive biology.

abc7ny.com

 

[Apostle John]

First, the Bible has no authority beyond those who give it authority for themselves. Second, what believers interpret the Bible to mean, is very broad and inconsistent. You seem to be a Christian extremist, and your interpretation of the Bible will be vastly different than a liberal Christian, or a moderate Christian, or even a conservative Christian. Third, you made no effort to show where in the Bible you think this is stated, so by default, we reject your claim. Forth, you keep making these superficial claims, but offer no reference, no citation, nor any sort of evidence that your claims are true. In a debate, there has to be some sort of argumentation that accompanies a claim, otherwise, it’s just a superficial statement, and by default we reject it. If that’s the best you can do that I debate form is probably not a good fit.

You have just stated your own blind inflated view like the Pharisees. Here have a read what the Lord Jesus told them:

John 8:44-45
King James Version
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.​

 

[F1fan]

Like I said multiple times already, it's not about the morality. Just physical.

Tell that to the people seeking equality under the law but are persecuted by conservatives.

 

[F1fan]

You have just stated your own blind inflated view like the Pharisees. Here have a read what the Lord Jesus told them:

John 8:44-45​

King James Version​

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.​

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.​

This doesn’t mention atheists. Even if it did it would be irrelevant to atheists. The Bible has no authority or significance beyond believers.

 

[Apostle John]

It comes from following the rules of logic and reason.
It's how court cases are adjudicated.

And the Bible, including the account of the resurrection, has never been disproven in any court. The God Delusion on the other hand can readily be dismissed as having absolutely no credible evidence to disprove the existence of God.

 

[Apostle John]

This doesn’t mention atheists. Even if it did it would be irrelevant to atheists. The Bible has no authority or significance beyond believers.

Atheists will find that to be wrong when they stop breathing.

 

[SkepticThinker]

And the Bible, including the account of the resurrection, has never been disproven in any court. The God Delusion on the other hand can readily be dismissed as having absolutely no credible evidence to disprove the existence of God.