Brian2
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Too much head banging to begin another prophecy when you cannot see something as obvious as the truth of the Tyre prophecy.
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Too much head banging to begin another prophecy when you cannot see something as obvious as the truth of the Tyre prophecy.
rational experiences
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Men today with collider claiming it futures life technology claim I need to understand the higher past humans science intelligence temple pyramid.
Knowing men of old higher mind intelligent than men today.
Beginning themes now are black space holes immense pressures gases and just dusts.
To move dusts in two positions by spatial forces emptiness into mass...
To convert it back to dusts. As machine reaction is a new minus of mass equals the place. My real answer. Is the end.
Future human my advice is dusts. Beginning human now dusts is our future now also.
As beginning thesis is exact end thesis also.
As a hole is the same on both sides.
Men said earth is pressurised a whole is by two cups...upper and lower. Mass exact is held mass fused bodily O. Man's first law is earth only.
You can't drink from Christ's cup as it's hidden as it's two. O mass earth.
Equator is middle for heat minus -.
Terrestrial forces magnetism held within as letter H.
I one pillar pressure by - I one pillar
H he said forces is inside of mass O.
The letter I equated man said balances it was sent side by side kept earth solid side by side as I - I.
H. Terrestrials magnetism says belongs to the rock.
The minus God an equator is not any equated.
Tor meaning the God of spin.
As above and below the same saviour is ice mass.
Therefore don't change mass or earths God pillar within will fall. Equator by equation will take heat and force it into becoming a new pole.
Earth will tip said science.
How humans science shifts mass from heat to cold. About God ours. Ours in science is mass first.
H plus ours.
As a machine controlled reaction he theoried for...the futures result. Parents humans as dust too.
As immaculate clear gas has to yet regain its own mass in its future. As a prediction.
Man's by Ingeritance code of man's sacrificed life as Jesus to TESLA.
Says LAST E.
O in God earth E is not double squared as square on square as one earth pillars mass is gone also.
What men caused by machine.
Letter a symbol E says one pillar goes.
What shifting code now causes warned.
The name said it. A man caused it.
Knowing men of old higher mind intelligent than men today.
Beginning themes now are black space holes immense pressures gases and just dusts.
To move dusts in two positions by spatial forces emptiness into mass...
To convert it back to dusts. As machine reaction is a new minus of mass equals the place. My real answer. Is the end.
Future human my advice is dusts. Beginning human now dusts is our future now also.
As beginning thesis is exact end thesis also.
As a hole is the same on both sides.
Men said earth is pressurised a whole is by two cups...upper and lower. Mass exact is held mass fused bodily O. Man's first law is earth only.
You can't drink from Christ's cup as it's hidden as it's two. O mass earth.
Equator is middle for heat minus -.
Terrestrial forces magnetism held within as letter H.
I one pillar pressure by - I one pillar
H he said forces is inside of mass O.
The letter I equated man said balances it was sent side by side kept earth solid side by side as I - I.
H. Terrestrials magnetism says belongs to the rock.
The minus God an equator is not any equated.
Tor meaning the God of spin.
As above and below the same saviour is ice mass.
Therefore don't change mass or earths God pillar within will fall. Equator by equation will take heat and force it into becoming a new pole.
Earth will tip said science.
How humans science shifts mass from heat to cold. About God ours. Ours in science is mass first.
H plus ours.
As a machine controlled reaction he theoried for...the futures result. Parents humans as dust too.
As immaculate clear gas has to yet regain its own mass in its future. As a prediction.
Man's by Ingeritance code of man's sacrificed life as Jesus to TESLA.
Says LAST E.
O in God earth E is not double squared as square on square as one earth pillars mass is gone also.
What men caused by machine.
Letter a symbol E says one pillar goes.
What shifting code now causes warned.
The name said it. A man caused it.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Oh the irony1 And of course Zeke himself admitted that he failed. And then went on to make another failed prophecy.
Like I said, you lost all credibility when it comes to biblical prophecy.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Life with mass as origin spiritual natural abundant and first. Humans. In nature's gArden on earth.
One gods earth.
Man's lying M. 13 middle 1000...M one Y as Y my father. Isn't life's abundance. It's the values he uses to destroy life. M one Y.
Self Idolating greedy rich man. My money will save you all but what I use I claim I assist. Yet greed by life's harm gave it to me. MY own destroys all things. MY one. WhAt self Idolating was and is. By man.
Religion that same status still rich men but now I'll serve. A hypocrite. I'll...ill.
What being rich is claiming yet Im chaste means. Idolating self still in a new way.
Isn't father's Y term natural life or earth history. Men Lied. His baby man son began all harm as man the self idolator.
Did Jesus self idolate?
No said teaching he was born a poor king. As life was already living sacrificed.
Did king's self idolate before new Jesus event?
Yes. They were all rich men. Jesus sacrificed also. Same meaning's.
Is the teaching you ignored.
Mother human said the healers own body healed first to get ova ovah ovary. Health. For baby man's life returned in cells.
Making her life superior to his.
She hadn't self idolated. About her life position.
In text he chastises his mother as his sister. Belief she prostituted herself. As Mary Mary Mary theme versus father son ghosts.
Ghosts gases heavens changed in heavens. Not human mother. He Lied.
Yet history first human sister brother sex is mutual natural in laws.
Where did his wrong answer come from? Moses documents who blamed a human woman not man's causes technology temple pyramid maths womb space science for life's harm.
Wrote the lie himself. Men were to blame by choice of science. The machine is exact.
You were told don't believe the beginning teaching. Muslim Egyptian mind was conscious gone as Egyptians.
Hebrew Egyptian said enslaver king's did it.
Reason...his mind awareness had only just returned. When men chose to write a book. It was verbal only before.
Therefore not a code but a warning is all that's left. The last.
One gods earth.
Man's lying M. 13 middle 1000...M one Y as Y my father. Isn't life's abundance. It's the values he uses to destroy life. M one Y.
Self Idolating greedy rich man. My money will save you all but what I use I claim I assist. Yet greed by life's harm gave it to me. MY own destroys all things. MY one. WhAt self Idolating was and is. By man.
Religion that same status still rich men but now I'll serve. A hypocrite. I'll...ill.
What being rich is claiming yet Im chaste means. Idolating self still in a new way.
Isn't father's Y term natural life or earth history. Men Lied. His baby man son began all harm as man the self idolator.
Did Jesus self idolate?
No said teaching he was born a poor king. As life was already living sacrificed.
Did king's self idolate before new Jesus event?
Yes. They were all rich men. Jesus sacrificed also. Same meaning's.
Is the teaching you ignored.
Mother human said the healers own body healed first to get ova ovah ovary. Health. For baby man's life returned in cells.
Making her life superior to his.
She hadn't self idolated. About her life position.
In text he chastises his mother as his sister. Belief she prostituted herself. As Mary Mary Mary theme versus father son ghosts.
Ghosts gases heavens changed in heavens. Not human mother. He Lied.
Yet history first human sister brother sex is mutual natural in laws.
Where did his wrong answer come from? Moses documents who blamed a human woman not man's causes technology temple pyramid maths womb space science for life's harm.
Wrote the lie himself. Men were to blame by choice of science. The machine is exact.
You were told don't believe the beginning teaching. Muslim Egyptian mind was conscious gone as Egyptians.
Hebrew Egyptian said enslaver king's did it.
Reason...his mind awareness had only just returned. When men chose to write a book. It was verbal only before.
Therefore not a code but a warning is all that's left. The last.
Brian2
Veteran Member
There is no admission of failure unless you misread the Ezek 26 prophecy, as you do.
How do you know that the Egyptian prophecy did not happen?
If any of the prophecies failed, the prophet would not have been called a prophet by the Jews. The standard was 100% correct. They lived at the time, they knew the accuracy. Are you saying they lied about their prophets being accurate?
rational experiences
Veteran Member
If men theory I want to time shift mass. They meant it. God first position in law as coldest space is mass. Earth.
Earths heavens gets country nation invaded by UFO suns cross. Void vacuum mother womb law takes it down.
Meaning heavens Inheritor body mass shifts it's forces. Huge storms occur naturally but unnaturally as heavens mass is forced shifted by machines old sciences.
So ground forces pressure changes opening sin holes removing entombed mass alight leaving then stops.
UFO mass is water mass cooled. Lightened removed by mother law. Activated naturally long ago.
Told it was the only reason re A son that life continues to exist now.
So end of times last means gas spirit alight will go dark. Anew. In heavens. Men theoried for first to be dark space only by invention. Law owns all theories first.
As machines owns no reaction whatsoever first.
As light is life. And to end life is the time of the spirits as sacrificed body above will end. It doesn't end naturally.
As in law it's natural first. Ignored as a humans scientist advice you never owned it.
Space did. Ignored as you are arrogant.
Ice the saviour origin for new animal human life the small signals is what man wants replaced. He wants giant ground signals.
Mass pressure that is gone.
Reasoned to do a reaction new themed is in using heavens mass as a particular amount of pressure and gas mass in law. That data says has to exist.
It's not there as long count from old data said not until year 2012 will the body mass pressures return. Saviour terms. What they had first used is gone.
Only biology healed ours by iced returned cooling water conditions. Not a gas spirit of gods body.
Man says by data I want it all now.
Meaning my intention is to O inherit it by my machines calculus. The whole earths heavens control in one new position.
As a new earth s new world order not the old as not Jerusalem. My new machines position.
So he expects complete change above and below.
GOD is known to the man scientists memory as G a spin on earth.
To have GD Hebrew terms he says I expect earth to spin into a new Shift on its side. Equator will move. Ice will be EW. And not SN. S ata N.
As saviour I .....once a heated core was snap frozen overcome by saviour ice. As SN. Origin S I N.
As D to a man is thought...I demand I will drink from God earths eternal mass cup. Christ. One half.
Rock stone ark. Rock and roll. The king he says my mind tells me.
So determined first he has to knowingly cause it. As it's man of science choices that claims false controls of earths heavens mass above to shift. Position one. Artificial caused.
Meaning we start to gain huge storm activity everywhere around earth as unnatural activity sun mass shifts nations constantly returning.
Heavens mass body shifting it's Inheritor to suit man's equation. New machine turning circuit not Jerusalem.
Science already predicted we expect by science terms as man's only practice earth is about its owned shift of poles.
Ignoring science is only a Human practice.
Now if science hasn't been repracticed. Human men would own no human reason to I see or predict. Life would be improving naturally.
As it was repracticed then men's wisdom by men's science is stating it's owns it's observed facts. I observe by what I choose.
Now as men use time in science as light factors by years. Year 2012 is in facts fake regarding earth counted...as natural movement is also fake in science.
As you cannot make claims about how much mass or what types of heavens mass hadn't yet returned. Long count changed by Romes temple Jesus science.
As Christ is hot CH gases... cold immaculate terms with waters mass and ice as saviour themes.
If men said particular earth pressures via cold mass and ice needs presence then they theoried for darkness by heated black nuclear mass causes and also spaces instant snap freeze.
As a reason the earth would G force soon of its current axis. To shift ice saviours origin positions earths heavens nations positions ufo inheritances.
As it's why Jerusalem as it's natural nation land position Inheritor owned an earths title.
Pre warning was always given about man the destroyer theist.
End of time is no gas light above. As light is time. And coldest on earth inside heavens in science terms fur biology presence was ice...as mass and pressure.
Biology isn't human present whole itself by ice and mass another proof.
Earths heavens gets country nation invaded by UFO suns cross. Void vacuum mother womb law takes it down.
Meaning heavens Inheritor body mass shifts it's forces. Huge storms occur naturally but unnaturally as heavens mass is forced shifted by machines old sciences.
So ground forces pressure changes opening sin holes removing entombed mass alight leaving then stops.
UFO mass is water mass cooled. Lightened removed by mother law. Activated naturally long ago.
Told it was the only reason re A son that life continues to exist now.
So end of times last means gas spirit alight will go dark. Anew. In heavens. Men theoried for first to be dark space only by invention. Law owns all theories first.
As machines owns no reaction whatsoever first.
As light is life. And to end life is the time of the spirits as sacrificed body above will end. It doesn't end naturally.
As in law it's natural first. Ignored as a humans scientist advice you never owned it.
Space did. Ignored as you are arrogant.
Ice the saviour origin for new animal human life the small signals is what man wants replaced. He wants giant ground signals.
Mass pressure that is gone.
Reasoned to do a reaction new themed is in using heavens mass as a particular amount of pressure and gas mass in law. That data says has to exist.
It's not there as long count from old data said not until year 2012 will the body mass pressures return. Saviour terms. What they had first used is gone.
Only biology healed ours by iced returned cooling water conditions. Not a gas spirit of gods body.
Man says by data I want it all now.
Meaning my intention is to O inherit it by my machines calculus. The whole earths heavens control in one new position.
As a new earth s new world order not the old as not Jerusalem. My new machines position.
So he expects complete change above and below.
GOD is known to the man scientists memory as G a spin on earth.
To have GD Hebrew terms he says I expect earth to spin into a new Shift on its side. Equator will move. Ice will be EW. And not SN. S ata N.
As saviour I .....once a heated core was snap frozen overcome by saviour ice. As SN. Origin S I N.
As D to a man is thought...I demand I will drink from God earths eternal mass cup. Christ. One half.
Rock stone ark. Rock and roll. The king he says my mind tells me.
So determined first he has to knowingly cause it. As it's man of science choices that claims false controls of earths heavens mass above to shift. Position one. Artificial caused.
Meaning we start to gain huge storm activity everywhere around earth as unnatural activity sun mass shifts nations constantly returning.
Heavens mass body shifting it's Inheritor to suit man's equation. New machine turning circuit not Jerusalem.
Science already predicted we expect by science terms as man's only practice earth is about its owned shift of poles.
Ignoring science is only a Human practice.
Now if science hasn't been repracticed. Human men would own no human reason to I see or predict. Life would be improving naturally.
As it was repracticed then men's wisdom by men's science is stating it's owns it's observed facts. I observe by what I choose.
Now as men use time in science as light factors by years. Year 2012 is in facts fake regarding earth counted...as natural movement is also fake in science.
As you cannot make claims about how much mass or what types of heavens mass hadn't yet returned. Long count changed by Romes temple Jesus science.
As Christ is hot CH gases... cold immaculate terms with waters mass and ice as saviour themes.
If men said particular earth pressures via cold mass and ice needs presence then they theoried for darkness by heated black nuclear mass causes and also spaces instant snap freeze.
As a reason the earth would G force soon of its current axis. To shift ice saviours origin positions earths heavens nations positions ufo inheritances.
As it's why Jerusalem as it's natural nation land position Inheritor owned an earths title.
Pre warning was always given about man the destroyer theist.
End of time is no gas light above. As light is time. And coldest on earth inside heavens in science terms fur biology presence was ice...as mass and pressure.
Biology isn't human present whole itself by ice and mass another proof.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Sorry, do better. Your reading is flawed. You either never read the prophecy or do not understand it.
And that is only the claimed law of the Jews. That does not mean that they always followed it.
EDIT: By the way, your own post shows that you did not read the prophecy.
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Can you be more specific, what exactly prevented people to develop all what we now have, 90,000 years ago?
Has lethal parasites killed all humans? If not, it is evidence for that God cares.
Ok, then please explain why?
rational experiences
Veteran Member
If you ask a human who reviewed clauses of man's past science machine history.
All of his advices are about man's beliefs choices actions outcomes.
Three times all different historic humans advices.
So to know man removed Earth's origin pillar within is by stating a symbolic advice H. H terrestrial rocks pillar.
Now.
How O rock of God earths body is stable.
As subject God is discussed twice.
As gods earths rock history.
As gods earth heavens history.
Yet the Inheritor body is rock below...clear gas immaculate above.
Both formed in space womb laws.
Mother of God...space.
Mother of Inheritor...space.
Yet two laws exist.
Gods body evolving reacting highest it's outer form. Rock.
Saviour immaculate sacrificed once as gases light. Highest safety ours inside its mass.
Basic human told philosophy. Why the two bodies are not the same laws.
The two advices state no argument even exists...no man is God.
Self evident.
Humans hence said I trust the advice correct. I don't need to argue myself. The testimony exact. Don't give God a name ever again.
Why Jesus was not accepted. As God was meant to be heavenly replaced as just God. One word only.
Therefore you couldn't argue it hadn't occurred when it had. Yet it had not made it ultimately correct.
As it was being righted taught spiritual law.
All of his advices are about man's beliefs choices actions outcomes.
Three times all different historic humans advices.
So to know man removed Earth's origin pillar within is by stating a symbolic advice H. H terrestrial rocks pillar.
Now.
How O rock of God earths body is stable.
As subject God is discussed twice.
As gods earths rock history.
As gods earth heavens history.
Yet the Inheritor body is rock below...clear gas immaculate above.
Both formed in space womb laws.
Mother of God...space.
Mother of Inheritor...space.
Yet two laws exist.
Gods body evolving reacting highest it's outer form. Rock.
Saviour immaculate sacrificed once as gases light. Highest safety ours inside its mass.
Basic human told philosophy. Why the two bodies are not the same laws.
The two advices state no argument even exists...no man is God.
Self evident.
Humans hence said I trust the advice correct. I don't need to argue myself. The testimony exact. Don't give God a name ever again.
Why Jesus was not accepted. As God was meant to be heavenly replaced as just God. One word only.
Therefore you couldn't argue it hadn't occurred when it had. Yet it had not made it ultimately correct.
As it was being righted taught spiritual law.
Brian2
Veteran Member
If you read the Ezek 26 prophecy accurately you will realise that Nebuchadnezzar was not prophesied to plunder the wealth of Tyre. That was prophesied of the nations in verse 12.
Ezek 26:12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea.
I suppose you think that "they" does not refer to the nations but refers to Nebuchadnezzar's horses in verse 11.
So anyway, Ezek 29 is not an admission that Ezek 26 failed when Nebuchadnezzar was never prophesied to loot Tyre.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
LOL! Nebby was the "many nations". We already went over that. And you just confirmed again that you did not read the prophecy.
You keep referring to Ezekiel 26. Did you read 27? How about 28? And let's not forget 29. You only read a small portion of it. No wonder that you are confused.
What you see is a rejection of the claim that biblical prophecy is evidence of a superhuman prescience by people who advocate for critical thinking and reject belief by faith. What you do that is so common among believers is to assume that if somebody isn't convinced by the evidence that they offer, that they just didn't look at it or give it a chance. Of course they did. The offered evidence did not support the conclusion the believer suggested it did according to his rules for evaluating evidence, which are obviously different than the standards the believer brings to the process.
I and others have discussed our criteria for prophecy to judge it meaningful. You haven't addressed that. Yesterday, you noted that the Tyre prophecy was accurate, and I explained that that wasn't enough. I then went on to prophecy darkness at night for yesterday, and lo and behold, it was an accurate prophecy. It even specified the date (yesterday) and time (late evening) that the prophecy would take place, which Tyre prophecy lacked. I'll bet that my prophecy doesn't impress you at all, and that would be a correct conclusion to arrive at, but can you say why? What does my prophecy lack that would make it evidence that I possess hidden knowledge not available to ordinary people had it contained that?
You didn't rebut successfully. You convinced me of nothing. But your methods are different from mine. You say that you found the process painful. Why should that be? I find many discussions disappointing, but I don't have an emotional reaction. I don't get frustrated or have a bad experience like so many of the believers. You saw them practically begging for the discussion to stop, framing it as attack and calling it divisive. Not for the critical thinkers participating. But that is to be expected when the two cultures interact, and one doesn't really understand how the other processes information.
I explained that to you. Speaking of how we process information, if you make a statement like I did about Occam's Razor, where I explained the utility of the concept, but in reverse, explaining why you think I was wrong, I will address it with you and tell you why I disagree if I do. What we see so often in these threads are arguments not acknowledged much less rebutted, followed by the same claim previously rebutted. You've done that twice in the quotes in this thread, first by repeating that another poster had been poisoned after it was explained why that wasn't an accurate assessment (and failing to comment on the criteria for strong prophecy), and now with Occam's Razor.
Where's the evidence that you read my reply, much less understood it? There is none, and this guarantees that no progress can or will be made in this discussion. You're still where you were the first time you made those comments, and will never move until you engage in dialectic with me. That can't happen if you don't know how or what that is, or what rebuttal and falsification are and the critical role they play in argumentation.
I'm sure you would like to learn more about this and do a better job. Here's a key element: address EVERY claim or argument made to you either by indicating agreement or explaining not just that you think it's wrong, but exactly where, why, and what is correct instead. Your answer should show clearly why you think mine is wrong. If it doesn't even attempt to do that, it cannot lead to a meaningful resolution of differences in opinion. Try that now. Find the comments in this post that you think are incorrect and explain why you think so in the manner I described - falsification. Think courtroom trial. The prosecutor presents a plausible theory of a crime and the defendants guilt. What kinds of replies from the defense attorney would help to exonerate the defendant. Here are your choices:
- Say nothing.
- Say that's not how we see it (simple dissent).
- Explain that the defendant is a good husband and father (dissent with a comment that doesn't make the prosecutor wrong).
- Give an alibi that shows that the prosecutor's argument is wrong (rebuttal, falsification).
Muffled
Jesus in me
To answer the first question. Usually a messenger is identified by the prophecy being fulfilled as in Jesus saying the Temple would be destroyed.
Another way is to have the leading of the Holy Spirit. I believe that is how I authenticated the Qu;ran since as far as I know there is no prophecy fulfillment in it.
A way I discount the claim of a messenger is to see if he contradicts known messengers. That is why I can discount the Bahalullah and Krishna.
Another way is to have the leading of the Holy Spirit. I believe that is how I authenticated the Qu;ran since as far as I know there is no prophecy fulfillment in it.
A way I discount the claim of a messenger is to see if he contradicts known messengers. That is why I can discount the Bahalullah and Krishna.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that statement is illogical. If someone made claims about someone in the sky without evidence I would not believe them. It is the evidence that I believe makes the statement true and one I would believe. As for wet paint I believe it is always a good thing to take the sign at face value.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe I need the truth. A false palliative is not going to work for me.
Okay, and what is that "evidence" that you believe?
And what is that "truth?"
Then you have what you need.
PearlSeeker
Well-Known Member
What are you talking about? What about stone tools, controll of fire, cooking, trade, glue, clothing, shoes, musical instruments, paintings, graves, agriculture etc.?
Brian2
Veteran Member
You keep making the same mistake in order to make the prophecy wrong. Then you use that misinterpretation to misinterpret other things.
You should be specific about which parts of Ezek 26, 27, 28 and 29 show the prophecy is wrong.
And no, Nebuchadnezzar was King of one nation, and was not "many nations".