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Why would you get married?

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I have heard that marriage provides multiple needs for both men and women and provides a dimension of lifelong friendship. It also is historically a great way to connect families, to build business networks, to end feuds, to build tribal strength...and things like that.
I believe that marriage does provide for those needs and I believe in marriage as an important institution. Not everyone is so lucky, but people who are happily married and stay together for life are usually very happy and very fortunate, although sadly, death of one of the spouses will eventually tear the bond asunder.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
I believe that marriage does provide for those needs and I believe in marriage as an important institution. Not everyone is so lucky, but people who are happily married and stay together for life are usually very happy and very fortunate, although sadly, death of one of the spouses will eventually tear the bond asunder.
My parents stayed married until my mother died. My father clearly hated to let her go, but he never lost the gift of their relationship. He was better because of it. I also work with someone who is a widow, and to me she seems to have benefited despite the loss. I gather that a relationship has enduring benefits which you get to keep even after a relationship ends.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I agreed on the understanding that there'd be no kale involved.

Weird. Just read this:

"Same-sex couples who registered their civil partnership in England and Wales can convert their civil partnership into a marriage. Opposite-sex civil partners can’t convert their civil partnership to a marriage."
- Registering a civil partnership
Looks like a loop-hole that really should be closed.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I don't really like talking about this, because my late husband passed on not long ago :cry: but since we are on the subject, I will tell you a story that people considered funny back when it occurred although it was not funny to me until I got it all resolved.

As I recall, about five years ago I was trying to sign up for my late husband's social security benefits, since I could get 50% of his social security from age 65 till age 70, rather than taking my own social security and having my benefit amount reduced. In order to apply, I had to have a marriage license, and I could not find one! So I contacted the Baha'i community where we had been married in El Cajon, CA, and they said they had no record of our marriage!

Then I contacted San Diego County clerk's office and they did not have any record of our marriage either. This got all around my office and I was telling people that I was worried because I might have been 'living in sin' for 32 years. Well, most people where I worked were Christians and they did not understand why I was worried, but since you know the Baha'i Laws on marriage I think you know why I might have been worried.

Mind you, it would not have been my fault if someone made a mistake and did not record the marriage, but if I had never taken out a license it could be my fault, and it could have had all kinds of legal ramifications. As the story turned out, my late husband asked me why not call the county clerk's office where we had been living when we got married, in Shasta County, CA, and when I called I found that is where I had taken out the marriage license and had it sent to me. We had been married all that time after all and I got my social security benefits. Now none of that seems to matter anymore.
And the lesson is ... keep your documents. Glad you found it. We joke that we've been married 3 times to the same person. The first was the legal marriage, done at the Vital Stats office in the provincial capital. We had 2 witnesses. The second was a Hindu ceremony near the same time, but that was before we were integrated into the local Tamil Hindu community, back when we knew very little about Hinduism. The third was about 10 years later, after the Tamil community realised we had omitted the most important part. (Tying of the thali, similar to the ring, but a gold pendant) So we had another more grand wedding with all of our friends present.

One day not to long ago a young couple showed up at our temple looking to do a quick wedding. They were from New Jersey I think, perhaps eloping, but still wanting Hindu. They didn't have any witnesses available, and the priest informed them they needed 2 witnesses to sign. So I called my friend who loves a minute way from the temple, and we witnessed, and signed ... for total strangers.

Yes there are unique wedding stories.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That explains why people might get married in the first place, but it does not explain why people would feel a need to remarry if they had gotten divorced or were widowed.
By then they're stuck in a rut, so repeat the same thing, expecting better results. :D
However, that raises a good point. I don't think that most people who were divorced or widowed feel a need to marry again, although most people do desire another long term relationship. I know this from being on several dating sites. Men want sex but they don't think they have to be married in order to have sex. In fact, in present-day society most people consider it perfectly acceptable to live together without getting married, and sex is part of the deal.
Yes, with contraception and the social emancipation of women, the need for a provider-homemaker/nursemaid bond isn't so strong today. Women can make their own way in the world, and people can have sex without childbirth. Being single today has economic and career advantages.
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I don't really like talking about this, because my late husband passed on not long ago :cry: but since we are on the subject, I will tell you a story that people considered funny back when it occurred although it was not funny to me until I got it all resolved.

As I recall, about five years ago I was trying to sign up for my late husband's social security benefits, since I could get 50% of his social security from age 65 till age 70, rather than taking my own social security and having my benefit amount reduced. In order to apply, I had to have a marriage license, and I could not find one! So I contacted the Baha'i community where we had been married in El Cajon, CA, and they said they had no record of our marriage!

Then I contacted San Diego County clerk's office and they did not have any record of our marriage either. This got all around my office and I was telling people that I was worried because I might have been 'living in sin' for 32 years. Well, most people where I worked were Christians and they did not understand why I was worried, but since you know the Baha'i Laws on marriage I think you know why I might have been worried.

Mind you, it would not have been my fault if someone made a mistake and did not record the marriage, but if I had never taken out a license it could be my fault, and it could have had all kinds of legal ramifications. As the story turned out, my late husband asked me why not call the county clerk's office where we had been living when we got married, in Shasta County, CA, and when I called I found that is where I had taken out the marriage license and had it sent to me. We had been married all that time after all and I got my social security benefits. Now none of that seems to matter anymore.
That's why weddings were traditionally public affairs -- lots of witnesses. Written records were not always made.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
If you were never married or if you are divorced or widowed, why would you want to get married? In other words, what are the reasons to be married over remaining single?

I think people would want to be married if they plan to have children and raise a family, but other than that why would you have a desire to get married if you are not married?

I am mostly curious about people who are older and single but would like to get married. What are the reasons why older people want to get married if they were never married, or remarry if they were or divorced or widowed? In other words, why would an older person want to be married as opposed to remaining single and living alone?

If you are young or old, single and happy with no desire to get married, please explain why you have no desire to get married.

If you are young or old, and single and unhappy being single, and you have a desire to get married, please explain why you have a desire to get married.

As usual, I have a reason for asking these questions which will be revealed later.

Thanks, Trailblazer. :)

Some hate being alone.

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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
By then they're stuck in a rut, so repeat the same thing, expecting better results. :D
Do you mean the rut of having to be married, so getting remarried and expecting different results?
I take it you are not the marrying kind.
Yes, with contraception and the social emancipation of women, the need for a provider-homemaker/nursemaid bond isn't so strong today. Women can make their own way in the world, and people can have sex without childbirth. Being single today has economic and career advantages.
I guess being single is not so bad if one has friends and family and a wider social circle...
Advantages for women or for both men and women?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
That's why weddings were traditionally public affairs -- lots of witnesses. Written records were not always made.
I can even recall that when I had thought I had failed to take out a marriage license the Baha'is who officiated the ceremony said I could fall back on the witnesses who attended my wedding.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
That is easy to say, but you are married aren't you? ;)

I do not mind being alone and in fact I like being alone, as long as I have my cats for company. :)
However, I do not think it is healthy to be alone all the time like I am.

Yes I am for 30 years.
Studies show being alone can be/is unhealthy.

"Too much time alone is bad for our physical health. Studies have found that social isolation and loneliness can increase the likelihood of mortality by up to 30%."

Being Alone: The Pros and Cons of Time Alone.

Loneliness and Social Isolation Linked to Serious Health Conditions

Loneliness and Social Isolation Linked to Serious Health Conditions

Don’t Let Loneliness Harm Your Health

Don’t Let Loneliness Harm Your Health

 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
After my second divorce, I didn't plan to remarry. The same is true of my wife after her third divorce. So, when we met, neither of us wanted to get married again. We were committed to each other, lived together, had mutual powers of attorney, etc.

Well, I got insurance through my university job, but the state government didn't pay its bills, which meant that the medical centers started asking for payment up front. That was rather an inconvenience. My wife had/has exceptional insurance through her job, so we got married for the insurance benefits.

We both needed a bit of tequila before the courthouse ceremony. That was 11 years ago.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
After my second divorce, I didn't plan to remarry. The same is true of my wife after her third divorce. So, when we met, neither of us wanted to get married again. We were committed to each other, lived together, had mutual powers of attorney, etc.

Well, I got insurance through my university job, but the state government didn't pay its bills, which meant that the medical centers started asking for payment up front. That was rather an inconvenience. My wife had/has exceptional insurance through her job, so we got married for the insurance benefits.

We both needed a bit of tequila before the courthouse ceremony. That was 11 years ago.
Well, yeah, but tequila with salt and lime, right? Otherwise, I'm not sure it's legal!
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
I am mostly curious about people who are older and single but would like to get married. What are the reasons why older people want to get married if they were never married, or remarry if they were or divorced or widowed? In other words, why would an older person want to be married as opposed to remaining single and living alone?
I know a lot of people that are single, but then again Denmark is not really a hardcore religious country, so a lot of people chose to get married per tradition. Some just get registered at the town hall, either because they are atheists, not interested in the whole expensive party thing or because it comes with some benefits when you have kids.

My cousin got married in Las Vegas in an Elvis drive-in or something like that. My brother only got married due to the kids really. I honestly have no clue if any of the people in my family who got married were due to religious reasons.

Personally, obviously being an atheist, I find it all kind of silly, people make a huge deal out of it and everyone goes "Are you sure? it's a bit step etc." however when they get a child everyone goes "Congratulations that is so wonderful".

You can get divorced over the internet and costs around 100$. Not that easy to do with a child :D

Getting a child that is a commitment for life. Getting married is just a tradition, so it's fine if it makes people happy, but really think they take it way too seriously, compared to what is at stake. :)
 
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