Homosexuality and religious.

[Sheldon]

Prove it, or stand accused of making a bald assertion.

I posted that gay people can and do have children through heterosexual sex, you then posted that straw man claim, and smiley faces implying you didn't understand.

We'll simplify this then, do you accept that @loverofhumanity's claim that gay people were a threat to the future of human existence was in fact laughable nonsense, since straight people have gay children and gay people can and do have children?

One assumes your confusion is now all cleared up, and you can give a candid answer.

 

[dybmh]

Everything that Prevents War is Good

This quote deserves a thread all its own. But in brief, I'll simply say: "Not Everything"

 

[Sheldon]

Sheldon said: ↑
You mean because you choose to believe a deity considers it immoral, you have no proof remember.

With good evidence I need no proof. YMMV.

You mean you subjectively believe you have good evidence, I mean you can't demonstrate any objective evidence at all.

 

[Sheldon]

Still waiting for you to justify that shameful falsehood that I called anyone stupid as well.

Any answer to this one TB, only I have had the decency to respond to all your demands.

Not to worry I stopped hoping for honest reciprocity some time ago.

 

[Sheldon]

Yet we know science makes the weapons of mass destruction and then uses them against their own kind, blinded to the morality that prevents war.

Nope that's another of your facile platitudes. Science, again then, is simply a method for helping us understand reality.

There is a good story about Abdul'baha talking to an inventor of armaments, a Mr Hudson Maxim, in the early 1900's.

Everything that Prevents War is Good

Harry Potter is a good story, it doesn't make wizardry real.

 

[ppp]

It is not reasonable to you...
I have never played victim.

 

[Trailblazer]

Well looky looky here. You claiming not to understand that gay people can have children though heterosexual sex. it never rains, and yet it pours..

I can and do understand that gay people can and do reproduce having heterosexual sex with a partner of the opposite sex.

However, gay people can't and don't reproduce having homosexual sex with their gay partner.

Let me spell that out so there are no further misunderstandings.
A man having sex with a man produces no children because no sperm meets egg.
A woman having sex with a woman produces no children because no sperm meets egg.

 

[Trailblazer]

 

[Sheldon]

I can and do understand that gay people can and do reproduce having heterosexual sex with a partner of the opposite sex.

Sheldon said: ↑
gay people can and do reproduce having heterosexual sex

YOUR RESPONSE WITH A LINK...

Hells bells...How deep are you going to dig this one?

 

[Trailblazer]

Did you manage to find a single post of mine calling anyone stupid by the way, or am I owed yet another apology that will never manifest itself.

Did you manage to find a single post of mine calling anyone stupid, or am I owed yet another apology that will never manifest itself?
Happy hunting.

 

[Trailblazer]

We'll simplify this then, do you accept that @loverofhumanity's claim that gay people were a threat to the future of human existence was in fact laughable nonsense, since straight people have gay children and gay people can and do have children?

I do not accept that @loverofhumanity's claim that gay people are a threat to the future of human existence, but not because straight people have gay children and gay people can and do have children. The reason I do not accept that claim is because enough heterosexual men and women are having sex in order to produce an ample number of children. In fact, there is no danger of under-population since the earth is already overpopulated.

 

[Trailblazer]

Any answer to this one TB, only I have had the decency to respond to all your demands.

What demands did I ever make?

 

[Sheldon]

Im only stating fact that the continued existence of the human race depends upon the union between a man and a woman which is the position of Baha’u’llah. Homosexuality undermines that because they cannot have children.

gay people can reproduce.

Not by having sex with each other.
Try again.

I see that you obfuscated because you cannot explain how gay people can produce children by having sex with each other.
Obfuscation is common atheist tactic but it doesn't slip by me unnoticed.

Not that I never claimed that, and not that you absolutely did claim I had, so a straw man, and this is just too hilarious, even for your posts.

You said they have children. Yes, but only if they adopt children.

Note again you denying that gay people can have children in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY heterosexual people do.

I am of course still waiting for you to quote a single post of mine calling another poster stupid, what can be the holdup given you claimed i do it all the time?

 

[Sheldon]

Did you manage to find a single post of mine calling anyone stupid, or am I owed yet another apology that will never manifest itself?
Happy hunting.

It was you who made that false accusation of me. Do you really think people can't click on the links and find out what was said, in just a few seconds?

So do you need me to quote your posts again, falsely accusing me of always resorting to calling people stupid when they disagreed with me? Call it and I will quote you yet again.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

This quote deserves a thread all its own. But in brief, I'll simply say: "Not Everything"

Yes indeed, the context of the talk in full is always good to read.

If one knows Abdul'baha, one realises that his everything is naught but virtues, and we can consider some time justice requires actions that can not be avoided.

How to prevent war has been given in specific details, and those details do include needed actions against tyrants and oppressors that will not change without a big stick.

Regards Tony

 

[We Never Know]

I mean this is a meaningless quibble to avoid stating the 'why'. You're still making a judgment.
Your earlier mention of hooker lives or drug life is because you judge those lifestyles as being inherently destructive. Something that does not sensibly apply to homosexual relationships.

Prejudice includes not having a good reason to be against something. The reason of prejudice is often a unacknowledged or hidden dislike. People who are racist rarely admit harboring 'dislike.' They believe errantly that their reasons are justified.

Thinking anal is gross is a good reason to not do anal. Being straight is a good reason to not be gay. Neither are good reasons for thinking other people shouldn't be gay. If you think someone else should stop being gay, I'd call that prejudiced against gays.

"Neither are good reasons for thinking other people shouldn't be gay. If you think someone else should stop being gay, I'd call that prejudiced against gays"

Really! Show anywhere where I said people shouldn't be gay or should stop being gay.
Just one post. Take your time.

 

[Sheldon]

What demands did I ever make?

Prove it, or stand accused of making a bald assertion.

Again, prove I ever played victim or stand accused of making a bald assertion.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Nope that's another of your facile platitudes. Science, again then, is simply a method for helping us understand reality.

Harry Potter is a good story, it doesn't make wizardry real.

I do not know why I keep attempting to offer you information?

I have to learn greater restraint, that's is my flaw.

Regards Tony

 

[Sheldon]

Did you manage to find a single post of mine calling anyone stupid, or am I owed yet another apology that will never manifest itself?
Happy hunting.

So doubling down with a second false allegation, as i never claimed you called anyone stupid, dear oh dear.

 

[We Never Know]

It's not a switch, bigotry and prejudice are not aimed only at one group.

Until you address posts #3125 and #3158, which both addressed your asinine comments, accusations and complaints, we have nothing else to discuss.