Homosexuality and religious.

[Sheldon]

Sheldon said: ↑
Homophobia is a deeply hateful prejudice

Who is really hateful?
Sure sounds like projection to me.

Not who, what, homophobia is deeply hateful.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Why is it that if someone doesn't agree with a homosexual's life, they must hate them?

No idea why people would think that.

Regards Tony

 

[Sheldon]

Beast of the fields are also kind, nurturing, playful, hard workers, resilient and a number of good qualities.

But I agree with the idea that naturalist fallacies aren't helpful, even if I disagree with you on either point that humans aren't animals or that the human animal is exclusively spiritual.

What matters on judging behavior is if and how much harm it's doing, not whether it's natural or unnatural.

Unless of course one doesn't think morality should care about harming or causing suffering, but instead cared about blind adherence to doctrine.

 

[Sheldon]

There is no lack of evidence, only lack of the kind of evidence you require.
Belief is not contrary to the evidence since the evidence indicates that there is a God.

There is no objective evidence, only subjective bias.

 

[Sheldon]

It is not an opinion, it is a belief.

They're not mutually exclusive.

 

[Sheldon]

When I said that is God's opinion I meant that is what God knows is right and wrong.
Yes, it is God's attitude, what God considers right and wrong.

Only the imaginary version of what you subjectively believe a deity you imagine is real wants.

Yiu might as well be making assertions about unicorn husbandry.

 

[Sheldon]

Why is it that if someone doesn't agree with a homosexual's life, they must hate them?

It doesn't, that's a facile straw man you've conjured.

Does that mean that if someone doesn't agree with a religious persons life, they hate them?

Only to irrational bigots.

 

[Sheldon]

No idea why people would think that.

Regards Tony

Because it's an irrational straw man.

 

[Sheldon]

How can homosexual people produce children by having sex with each other?

Straw man, the more you repeat the fallacy, the more desperately irrational your position.

 

[Sheldon]

Sheldon said: ↑
And if he's lucky enough to find a partner he loves, would you really think that immoral?

My son has a partner. It has nothing to do with me, I support my son and his partner and Love them as I love all.

You evaded another question. I wonder why...

 

[Sheldon]

Hopefully that will never happen.

You ignored the question, the reason is manifest, your claim was asinine nonsense.

 

[Sheldon]

That's true, but so what?
How many babies do you think would be born without men and women having sex together?

Straw man....and gay men and women can and do have babies, or are you still laughably trying to pretend otherwise.

 

[Sheldon]

No, I never stated as a fact that people have free will.
I believe people have free will but that is not a fact since it cannot be proven.

A fact need not he "proven" only known to be true.

 

[Sheldon]

It is basically between the individual and God.

Not a according to your religion.

 

[Sheldon]

For us Baha’is it comes down to fallible error prone humans vs an All Knowing infallible God Who created both man and science.

Nope, that's just a subjective opinion, other humans have the right to measure your claims against science, logic and even their own subjective morality, when that is manifestly less pernicious.

 

[Sheldon]

Sheldon said: ↑
Faith requires no knowledge, by definition.

That is an incorrect definition,

No it isn't. I'm using the common usage found in any dictionary. Your biased subjective version is irrelevant to my point.

 

[Sheldon]

That’s an understandable position for anyone who disbelieves in God and His Prophets.

Agreed, but this rather loaded response kisses the point. Perfect morality reflecting base human prejudices is a rather obvious paradox.

 

[We Never Know]

It doesn't, that's a facile straw man you've conjured.

Only to irrational bigots.

"It doesn't, that's a facile straw man you've conjured".

A strawman after a strawman? What's the first straw man there?

We Never Know said:

Why is it that if someone doesn't agree with a homosexual's life, they must hate them?

 

[Vinayaka]

Disagreeing with someone because they are homophobic is far different than disagreeing with someone because they're homosexual, just as disagreeing with a racist is far different than disagreeing with someone because of their race.

In each case one of the situations is unchangeable, while the other is changeable, through social change and education.

(I don't have high expectations.)

 

[ppp]

Why is it that if someone doesn't agree with a homosexual's life, they must hate them?

"Agree" "Life" What an intentionally vague and broad statement.

If you do not approve of the totality of someone's life solely on the basis of the adult with whom they have consensual sex, then you are defitely a bigot.