Solution to homosexuals is by government executions according to Pastor.

[Sheldon]

I say, people are not born gay, they are groomed to it.

People are not born religious, they are indoctrinated into it. That is why they become hateful intolerant bigots, most would be decent people, sadly religions get their hateful claws into them.

 

[Sheldon]

people want to push their alphabet propaganda for small children. That is the best time to mess their development and guide them to a bad taste.

Religions want to push their hateful bigoted propaganda on small children. That is the best time to mess their development and guide them to a bad taste.

 

[SkepticThinker]

yes I'm stereotyping because stereotyping is obviously the language of gay people and gay supporters as you can see for yourself in this thread.

Sorry, what?

The only person I see stereotyping gay people and making judgments based on those stereotypes of them, is you.

 

[Sheldon]

isn't your position that this pastor represent Christianity?

So you're saying he doesn't, and you entirely disagree? Only some Christian posters are enthusiastically picking up his baton in this thread? Indeed many of your posts seem to be doing just that.

 

[Sheldon]

What are those limits? please quote from source.

Defamation, hate speech that actively discriminates against people's skin colour or ethnicity, advocating or threatening violence, just off the top of my head.

 

[Sheldon]

yes I'm stereotyping because stereotyping is obviously the language of gay people and gay supporters as you can see for yourself in this thread.

Wow, a bs tsunami there, nearly got my feet covered in that nonsense. Bigots just got to bigot...

 

[paradox]

Sorry, what?

The only person I see stereotyping gay people and making judgments based on those stereotypes of them, is you.

Let me open your eyes, you have to look both way not just toward gay people.
This thread is full of stereotyping BS against Christianity, don't you see?

So you're saying he doesn't, and you entirely disagree?

And you say he does, and you entirely agree??

Wow, a bs tsunami there, nearly got my feet covered in that nonsense. Bigots just got to bigot...

You have 16 pages to browse backwards, you don't have to take my word, starting with OP which says

Is it me, or is there an unusual amount of hate going on in Christianity today?

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@SkepticThinker
I boldened a portion so that you SEE, don't you SEE?

 

[muichimotsu]

Children are not sexual. If you disagree, please explain why?

Sexuality is something that develops as person grows and it can be compared to taste for food. People learn to like different foods and learn different eating habits. For example most people have learned to eat through a mouth, because it is reasonable and food tastes better that way. Not many try to eat trough their ear, even though ear is also hole in a head. Similarly, there are reasonable and unreasonable ways to satisfy sexual appetite. Some people develop a bad taste in sexuality that is not reasonable and not good for their health. Bad taste can develop if person has experiences that leads him to seek satisfaction in a way that is not reasonable. One can unlearn bad habits and one can also learn bad habits, they are not programmed to persons mind in the birth. If you disagree, please tell one example and how it was programmed?

That is why I say, people are not born gay, they are groomed to it. Which explains why LBGP... people want to push their alphabet propaganda for small children. That is the best time to mess their development and guide them to a bad taste.

Being gay is not strictly sexual attraction, that's a myopic focus that leads into Qanon rabbit hole conspiracy theories about grooming and such, ignoring the plethora of instances of sexual abuse of minors in the church at large

Taste for food is not the same thing remotely, that's based on olfactory and gustatory aspects of development, the tastebuds literally spreading out over time

And ones tastes in sex are not the same as their attraction, you're confusing the latter with preference, which is going to vary even amongst gay people, along with straight people, etc. Some would find blondes more attractive, some would find slimmer waists more attractive, none of that is about their attraction to the opposite sex, same sex or both (among other variations)

By your logic, we're just as much "groomed" to be straight, which tells me you think ALL sexuality is innately something we're taught, which I'd love to see actual evidence for that which isn't biased in the first place to that preconception. It's like the idea that being gay is a "lifestyle" when that's not what a lifestyle is anymore than being straight, being black or being a man

 

[muichimotsu]

See your post #41
You know that door knockers are sectarians just like this pastor?

Beside that, isn't your position that this pastor represent Christianity?


What are those limits? please quote from source.

"government generally may subject religious persons and organizations to neutral, generally applicable laws—e.g., across-the-board criminal prohibitions or certain time, place, and manner restrictions on speech"

"except to the extent that such speech becomes excessive or harassing."

Also, you're skewing the discussion if you think that is an exhaustive treatise on free speech, because its focus is on religious liberty, not the more broad considerationsof freedom of speech they allude to, but don't reference the case law in regards to things like incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and threats. All of which can manifest in some form of fashion, some especially, through religious exercise. It is no more absolute than freedom of speech because absolute freedom leads to a net loss of freedom because people will violate the rights of others easily with no limits on behavior

 

[ppp]

Why do you think someone is born gay and what does it mean?

We are born with the brains that we have.

 

[muichimotsu]

Could you point out where you think I've done that?
Or is this just an attempt at deflection?

Or you could just speak to the point. That would be nice.

It's telling that their best argument appears to be constant deflection and hedging via a tu quoque, as if that makes their conclusion valid at all

 

[muichimotsu]

Let me open your eyes, you have to look both way not just toward gay people.
This thread is full of stereotyping BS against Christianity, don't you see?


And you say he does, and you entirely agree??


You have 16 pages to browse backwards, you don't have to take my word, starting with OP which says

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@SkepticThinker
I boldened a portion so that you SEE, don't you SEE?

Hate manifests in various ways and one way that is enabling it strongly is apathy or even denialism, like someone just saying they think gays are an abomination is not the same as this pastor saying they should be executed

 

[rational experiences]

As a God in person a God is inferred not a human. A God didn't write the bible.

Theists today are trying to make a homosexual genesis from a bible status a new heavens thesis. To pin point Jesus in human biology. By fake inference.

Claiming it is involved by a phi thesis crop circle ground science. Devils and evil.

In the past an incorrect lying theist was already a human satanic scientist. Whose always wrong. Said the DNA had been executed as a scientific caused humans murder.

Legal status by intention as it hadn't been completely understood.

In genetics no human is homosexual.

As we are born by sperm not a homosexual.
Ovary not a homosexual.

A Baby doesn't express sexuality. Homosexuality once defined by adult sex.

Human mind as a conscious develops.

We live in an atmosphere ever increasing human adult population by billions.

First mutual human DNA sexual parents might have been a few thousand.

Life gets atmospheric by Ai causes recorded. Proven by human psychics.

Proven by use of transmitting human recorded life voice images via machines....human only designed built. Through heavens body.

Therefore we rely on interactive self reflecting feedback. You get naturally bodily bio recorded. You are born owning natural genitalia.

Feedback lots of human adult images behaviours voices recorded Interferes with being natural. By mind behaviour only a human owned first.

Proving heavens condition have changed.

Scientific caused by human machine designers in human person the adult.

Science caused it.

In the past it was given a legal status reviewed causes. To stop science changing consciousness. A legal status criminal science cause.

The human was the natural life victim if you cared honestly for human holiness. Humans in life. All babies born innocent it said if you read it legally .... and not conditioned to be judgemental.

 

[Madmogwai]

Pastor says "solution" to gay people is executions: It's in the Bible

Wow.


Is it me, or is there an unusual amount of hate going on in Christianity today?

Nothing new, look at the crusades. Papal Armies, Medievil burnings at the stake, hateful teachings in the Bible, God destroyed almost all with floods, killing babies in Egypt, teachings of ways to treat slaves.
Follow Jesus or go to hell.
Disgusting history not just now

 

[rational experiences]

Humans natural spiritual living loving life is equal mutual first.

Mutual parent partnerships.

Star fall came. Psyche psychic changed. Of men.

We knew intricate biology advice on psychic terms to survive with healing potents in nature.

It all changed.

Today everyone still psychic gain daily a psyche viewed psyche thinking statement. Caused.

Psychic.

A pastors mind affected from his man's changed science heaven mind status. States homosexuals need to be executed.

He thinks God says so. Science theories had caused it to natural life first. Hence it should not be making those quotes. As first homosexual man hadn't existed.

God theist men scientists researching by machines our bio owned humans heavens Jesus. As Phi alien crop fall out. By data by computer AI..by satellite in conjunction their machine nuclear reactors.

So he proves by a holy practiced mind man has said in theory.... He's thinking the homosexual life should be executed. As data said it.

As a warning.

As he's not being spiritually psychic trained...he doesn't realise it's a man's heard warning about what his science brothers are now thinking.

He heard them.

I hear them. I understood he was giving out mind theoried human warnings against life continuing to exist. As the theist satanist mind believed in lifes execution and destruction.

Is thinking... king about causing it himself by machine held constant controlled causes.

Life is only born then observed in behaviours.

Origin life is human equal.

Scientists lie. Theists lie. Their brother brother origin mind changed first. Then they theoried science.

Making their memory incorrect.

Hence an already man speaking voice makes suggestions in science causes.

 

[1213]

...ALL sexuality is innately something we're taught...

I don't think sexuality itself is taught. I think that how person satisfies sexuality is something that can be learnt.

 

[1213]

...That is why they become hateful intolerant bigots, most would be decent people, sadly religions get their hateful claws into them.

How do you know people are not naturally hateful intolerant bigots? I think Christianity is what can cure person from hatefulness.

 

[1213]

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The sexual repression that many religions teach is deeply harmful. Indeed it has been demonstrated again and again to be so.

What do you mean with that?

 

[1213]

Why do you assume there is a why for the sexual attraction people are born with? Why do you assume it has an overarching meaning?

I don't believe people are born with sexual attraction.

 

[1213]

Did you seriously just try to smuggle pedophiles into this discussion about homosexuality?
....

Isn't it just the next alphabet added to the string of letters? People are already speaking in a way that it will be normalized and accepted. And by what I know, pedophiles can be also heterosexual. So that is not just a gay thing.