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Reaping the effects of rejecting Yahweh’s Word

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
The ‘in between’ I think is the mindset dictators and war criminals use to justify genocide and the like. Love is a strong word and used for a reason I believe, so there be no justification for cruelty and oppression in our world.

Of course it cannot be enforced but we can be educated from childhood to view all the world as our family. Seeing others as family would we be willing to murder family members in places for example like we see in Ukraine, Syria and Myanmar? It’s the mindset that sees an ‘us and them’ that enables us to be easily manipulated to demonise others.

Well, you can suppress people in the name of love. Now if you mean that love can include letting another human be different than you, then yes. But I don't need to love another human in order for me to understand that.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
anyone who wouldn't follow the idea of love and compassion is going to effectively have a hard and bitter life.


what people wear is not a problem. even wolves come in sheep's clothing. but how people behave one towards another is going to determine the road they chose and if hate and destruction is the chosen path, i wouldn't want to travel with them.

what ever you do unto the least of these, you do unto me.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
That nonsense.. identifying as someone I'm not will never make me that person. I can identify as a pink unicorn as much as I want, doesn't make it so. Same thing for identifying as the opposite sex.
Out of curiosity: have you ever actually confirmed your genetic sex?

If no, how would you react if it turned out not to be what you thought it should be?
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Why do you work in the field of mental health?
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
If they are taught about it, maybe. Could be. A friend in New Zealand had his son wanting to be a girl at the age of 8, and now it's been a few years. She is a girl now and identifies as a girl. But I think they had to go for therapy or some kind of sessions. She was also taking medication.

Could be that around that age sexual identity kicks in and in some presents an identity problem, the physical and the psyche are in conflict. I think we must respect the fact that these are not freely chosen, the only choice is how to respond to the dilemma.
As for the schools addressing the issue, public schools are not to be in the morality business.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
How about getting back to stoning children, people working on Saturdays, slavery, forcing victims of rape marrying their rapists, etc?

the good old times of the Bible.

ciao

- viole
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Could be that around that age sexual identity kicks in and in some presents an identity problem, the physical and the psyche are in conflict. I think we must respect the fact that these are not freely chosen, the only choice is how to respond to the dilemma.
As for the schools addressing the issue, public schools are not to be in the morality business.

Maybe pearl. I am no expert on this. Thanks for your thoughts.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

don’t you guys see bigger problems in the world today? You are to be envied if these are, from your point of view, the biggest problems in the world today.

ciao

- viole
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Copy/pasting the word in my browser lead me to it meaning an individual on the Autism spectrum.

I quite like this, in comparison with "neurotypical" :

"Neurodiversity refers to the idea that neurological differences, such as those seen in autism or ADHD, reflect normal variations in brain development. Neurodiversity is often contrasted with the “medical model,” which views conditions like autism or ADHD as disorders to prevent, treat, or cure. There has been a push to move away from this idea of pathology and more toward a more nuanced perspective with variations of what is “normal.” "
- Neurodiversity

But then I've never been generally happy with the medical model regarding mental health.
 
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mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I quite like this, in comparison with "neurotypical" :
"Neurodiversity refers to the idea that neurological differences, such as those seen in autism or ADHD, reflect normal variations in brain development. Neurodiversity is often contrasted with the “medical model,” which views conditions like autism or ADHD as disorders to prevent, treat, or cure. There has been a push to move away from this idea of pathology and more toward a more nuanced perspective with variations of what is “normal.” "

- Neurodiversity

As one close to autism and over when in stress, it has made my life better simply because I am not wrong. I am just different and so are you. :)
 

Mark Charles Compton

Pineal Peruser
As for the schools addressing the issue, public schools are not to be in the morality business.
Someone needs to help the child navigate the tumultuous experience that puberty can be. It's all too often that the parent/s are too busy or callous or absent to provide basic survival skills or social skills.

My friend's 64 year old mother told me that when she was 11, she thought she screamed bloody murder and was sent home by her school principle because she could not be consoled... You see, her mother refused to inform her daughter about the natural cycles genetically born women get the privilege of being tortured by. So, when she seen there was a significant amount of blood was in the toilet, she thought herself wounded or dying and panicked accordingly... This world is nuts (at least this world of humans).
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
There was a study/survey done, where people from different generations, starting at the WWII generation, then the baby boomers, millennials, etc., to the present, were ask if they personally identified with gender choice. The data showed that the number of people who did, doubled each generation to the present. There is no good genetic explanation for why more and more babies are being born into the wrong bodies.

Darwin showed that genetic change via natural selection was very slow; Galápagos Islands. This slow rate of change was how Atheists challenged the 6000 years time scale of Bible Creationism. This slow change is also why it is hard to prove evolution by pointing out day to day changes.

This new trend of the number of babies being born into the wrong biological bodies, is moving way too fast to be natural selection. It is moving more like the speed we get from human selection, due to will and choice, such as human choice being used for dog breeding. New breeds of dogs appear much faster than natural changes to species like wolves. He, them, there, which, what, and why is an expanding mind game for self delusion leading to new human dog and cat breeds.

What is the purpose of using human selection, for willful gender assignment, so humans can appear to change quicker that natural, just like dog breeds? My opinion is this is designed as way to slow population growth, since none of these new "breeds" can reproduce. They also provide a boom for merchants who sell the needed expanding range of fashion and medical accessories.

Abortion may have reached it practical limit and plan B is being introduced as a backup plan to lower population growth. It is amazing how gullibility has double each generation. The people who defend evolution, break all the rules without even noticing this. What is happening is closer to a religion which cannot be funded by tax payer dollars.
 

Mark Charles Compton

Pineal Peruser
You are to be envied if these are, from your point of view, the biggest problems in the world today.
My concern of the LGBTQ community, particularly of the Trans members, is the alarming suicidality rates ravaging their sector of the population, as examined within the following journal's study:

Trends in suicide death risk in transgender people: results from the Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria study (1972–2017)

I would assume one of the primary factors would be emotional and moral support of family, friends and peers... I would assume. We need to support our young people, not shun or shy away from them in their time of post pubertal confusion.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
There was a study/survey done, where people from different generations, starting at the WWII generation, then the baby boomers, millennials, etc., to the present, were ask if they personally identified with gender choice. The data showed that the number of people who did, doubled each generation to the present. There is no good genetic explanation for why more and more babies are being born into the wrong bodies.

No there isn't. I suspect the explanation lies in attitudinal changes over generations. Similar "research" might show there are more homosexuals today than in the past (in Western countries at least). The truth however would simply be that homosexuals in the past were less likely to be public in this, given society attitudes.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
New There was a study/survey done, where people from different generations, starting at the WWII generation, then the baby boomers, millennials, etc., to the present, were ask if they personally identified with gender choice. The data showed that the number of people who did, doubled each generation to the present. There is no good genetic explanation for why more and more babies are being born into the wrong bodies.
I bet you would find similar results if you surveyed left-handedness.

Funny how people tend express themselves more freely when they aren't persecuted for expressing how they really are.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
There was a study/survey done, where people from different generations, starting at the WWII generation, then the baby boomers, millennials, etc., to the present, were ask if they personally identified with gender choice. The data showed that the number of people who did, doubled each generation to the present. There is no good genetic explanation for why more and more babies are being born into the wrong bodies.

Darwin showed that genetic change via natural selection was very slow; Galápagos Islands. This slow rate of change was how Atheists challenged the 6000 years time scale of Bible Creationism. This slow change is also why it is hard to prove evolution by pointing out day to day changes.

This new trend of the number of babies being born into the wrong biological bodies, is moving way too fast to be natural selection. It is moving more like the speed we get from human selection, due to will and choice, such as human choice being used for dog breeding. New breeds of dogs appear much faster than natural changes to species like wolves. He, them, there, which, what, and why is an expanding mind game for self delusion leading to new human dog and cat breeds.

What is the purpose of using human selection, for willful gender assignment, so humans can appear to change quicker that natural, just like dog breeds? My opinion is this is designed as way to slow population growth, since none of these new "breeds" can reproduce. They also provide a boom for merchants who sell the needed expanding range of fashion and medical accessories.

Abortion may have reached it practical limit and plan B is being introduced as a backup plan to lower population growth. It is amazing how gullibility has double each generation. The people who defend evolution, break all the rules without even noticing this. What is happening is closer to a religion which cannot be funded by tax payer dollars.

Well, it is not genetic. It is social norm. The norms have changed and thus people come out of the "closet".
 
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