So Tired of This

[74x12]

I don't know where to put this so I put it in Journals. Sorry if this comes off as rude...

I am so tired of going to any religious discussion forum and having half the main topics or most threads mention US politics, Biden, Trump, Planned Parenthood and all the rest of it. It seems every forum is US dominated with an insane intense focus on politics. Is it so much to ask for a discussion that doesn't treat Europe and the other non-European Anglophone countries as peripheral? I am sick to the back teeth of hearing about American politics when I'm looking for religious discussions. When I watch religious videos on YT, be they Pagan, Catholic, Jewish, much of the time they're clearly based on a North American or Canadian audience. Sermons discussing all this. I think this is likely just as much Europeans' faults, as we often fail to care about or discuss religion in any meaningful way anymore at all. I just really, really, really, truly, truly, truly wish these discussions would eliminate US politics and focus on religious issues.

It's just the dominance of American social media platforms and news around the world. People talk about what the news talks about and/or what's trending on social media. They don't really research issues or look more deeply into things than that. So of course everyone always talks about America even if they've never been to America.

I want people to think for themselves and not trust the main stream news or follow the social media crowd. It's the herd mentality. People just go along and social media is really good at indoctrinating people because they can control the information secretly. With shadow bans and out right bans. They can block and/or censore information that they don't want getting to the "herd". That way they direct/control the thought of the herd. The "herd" is easily controlled by people trained in psychology.

The American government along with the global governance is behind much of it. They consider the control of information as part of their war doctrine of "full spectrum dominance". They want to basically control the narrative at all times to remain in control of the war space. However who are they at war with? We have to ask ourselves this ... who is the enemy? They are using considerable power and resources to maintain control of our thought. Are we the enemy?

Even if you somehow agree with their agenda (which you shouldn't) still it should be repugnant and abhorrent to you that they're manipulating you. That by itself should be enough. Does anyone like to be manipulated even for a good reason?

But I believe their agenda is anti-human. They're planning to phase out who they consider to be "useless eaters". People who are not "useful" to them apparently. If anyone cares about people. Especially the poor and the needy; then they will resist the new world order. They want them dead, gone. I don't know how to make that more clear.

We humans are not machines or farm animals. We don't have to be "useful" to anyone to justify our existence. We simply exist because God made us. So who are these people to say otherwise?

 

[Secret Chief]

I do, too! I joined a religious forum to talk about religion!

I don't care what's going on in politics. Politics happen. And furthermore, its just a poop flinging party. People say they care deeply for the issues, but they seldom know what's going on in their own backyards(try asking folks about local politics and watch the blank stares), and go for the more 'flashy' ideas. And then... what does bickering on a forum do? If you care, go do something about it!



I'd like to hear about life in the EU, too. I'll admit I don't want to hear about their politicians(I really do dislike politics), but it would be interesting to hear about the events that are transpiring in other parts of the world.

So do you mean non-political events?
Sad but true point: events in the EU no longer includes events in the UK.

 

[Secret Chief]

The American government along with the global governance is behind much of it. They consider the control of information as part of their war doctrine of "full spectrum dominance". They want to basically control the narrative at all times to remain in control of the war space. However who are they at war with? We have to ask ourselves this ... who is the enemy? They are using considerable power and resources to maintain control of our thought. Are we the enemy?

Even if you somehow agree with their agenda (which you shouldn't) still it should be repugnant and abhorrent to you that they're manipulating you. That by itself should be enough. Does anyone like to be manipulated even for a good reason?

But I believe their agenda is anti-human. They're planning to phase out who they consider to be "useless eaters". People who are not "useful" to them apparently. If anyone cares about people. Especially the poor and the needy; then they will resist the new world order. They want them dead, gone.

OK, so how does one go about researching this issue? Specifics please.

 

[JustGeorge]

So do you mean non-political events?
Sad but true point: events in the EU no longer includes events in the UK.

Not necessarily completely non-political, but not the "my candidate is better than your candidate" nonsense that US politics has degraded into.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's just the dominance of American social media platforms and news around the world. People talk about what the news talks about and/or what's trending on social media. They don't really research issues or look more deeply into things than that. So of course everyone always talks about America even if they've never been to America.

I want people to think for themselves and not trust the main stream news or follow the social media crowd. It's the herd mentality. People just go along and social media is really good at indoctrinating people because they can control the information secretly. With shadow bans and out right bans. They can block and/or censore information that they don't want getting to the "herd". That way they direct/control the thought of the herd. The "herd" is easily controlled by people trained in psychology.

The American government along with the global governance is behind much of it. They consider the control of information as part of their war doctrine of "full spectrum dominance". They want to basically control the narrative at all times to remain in control of the war space. However who are they at war with? We have to ask ourselves this ... who is the enemy? They are using considerable power and resources to maintain control of our thought. Are we the enemy?

Even if you somehow agree with their agenda (which you shouldn't) still it should be repugnant and abhorrent to you that they're manipulating you. That by itself should be enough. Does anyone like to be manipulated even for a good reason?

But I believe their agenda is anti-human. They're planning to phase out who they consider to be "useless eaters". People who are not "useful" to them apparently. If anyone cares about people. Especially the poor and the needy; then they will resist the new world order. They want them dead, gone. I don't know how to make that more clear.

We humans are not machines or farm animals. We don't have to be "useful" to anyone to justify our existence. We simply exist because God made us. So who are these people to say otherwise?

Who are "these people" and "their agenda" specifically? This "new world order"?

 

[Secret Chief]

Not necessarily completely non-political, but not the "my candidate is better than your candidate" nonsense that US politics has degraded into.

Such as the government has decided to close (solely for ideological reasons, the staff are atrociously over-worked, underpaid and under-resourced, but doing essential work) a local office that a lot of hard working public servants currently work in, in a poor area where the largest employer is (or was) the public sector?

 

[JustGeorge]

Such as the government has decided to close (solely for ideological reasons, the staff are atrociously over-worked, underpaid and under-resourced, but doing essential work) a local office that a lot of hard working public servants currently work in, in a poor area where the largest employer is (or was) the public sector?

Yes, that seems like something worth hearing about.

Do tell?

 

[Secret Chief]

Yes, that seems like something worth hearing about.

Do tell?

The Department for Work and Pensions administers benefits (such as sickness and unemployment benefits) and state pensions. Millions of people obviously rely on these as their main or sole income. The backlog has got worse since covid lockdowns (waits of more than 12 months are common - unless say, you have got a terminal illness and likely to die in the next 6 months). Staff are under massive pressure to hit stupidly high targets. Never mind the outcome, just shift the work (at best this creates more work, at worst vulnerable claimants have killed themselves due to erroneous decisions). Anyhoo, this is all trivial stuff because the government want to lower taxes, make the public sector more efficient, cut red tape and other vacuous soundbite bollocks to appeal to certain voters and so are closing about 40 processing offices. The local one will close with the loss of 200 staff. (Pre lock down there were 400 - in 2 years 200 competent experienced staff have upped and left because they are sick of their treatment at the hands of their employer). The local tory MP says the closure should be viewed as an opportunity for new careers. Hopefully at the next election she will have such an opportunity. The city centre will become even more impoverished as these public sector staff constitute a significant proportion of the local workforce.

 

[Revoltingest]

I believe it has much to do with the fact that a lot of Americans conflate religion, politics, patriotism, and their own identities.

Many, but not all.
About 25% are unaffiliated.
And we're growing.

 

[JustGeorge]

Never mind the outcome, just shift the work (at best this creates more work, at worst vulnerable claimants have killed themselves due to erroneous decisions). Anyhoo, this is all trivial stuff because the government want to lower taxes, make the public sector more efficient, cut red tape and other vacuous soundbite bollocks to appeal to certain voters and so are closing about 40 processing offices. The local one will close with the loss of 200 staff. (Pre lock down there were 400 - in 2 years 200 competent experienced staff have upped and left because they are sick of their treatment at the hands of their employer).

That's awful.

The local tory MP says the closure should be viewed as an opportunity for new careers. Hopefully at the next election she will have such an opportunity. The city centre will become even more impoverished as these public sector staff constitute a significant proportion of the local workforce.

Gee, I'm sure that makes the newly unemployed feel better.

Tory... what's that mean, anyways?

 

[Rival]

Tory... what's that mean, anyways?

A term for the Conservative Party.

 

[Secret Chief]

That's awful.



Gee, I'm sure that makes the newly unemployed feel better.

Tory... what's that mean, anyways?

Tory - Conservative - Rightwing

Conservative Party (UK) - Wikipedia

 

[RestlessSoul]

I googled "France bans Fox News" and found nothing. That would be an interesting decision if true, especially bearing in mind France's own far-right threat coming from Le Pen and others.



I think the assertion that religion is almost a non-issue is largely Western-centric. Religion is a major sociopolitical instrument in the Middle East and Africa. I'm not sure the statement applies to the U.S. either considering how much influence religious rhetoric has on American politics.

Not sure about France. I can confirm that hardly anyone in the U.K. watches Fox News. I followed the last US election on CNN, but haven’t watched that since either.

 

[Secret Chief]

A term for the Conservative Party.

Or supporter of.

 

[Rival]

Or supporter of.

Really? I don't know any

 

[Secret Chief]

Really? I don't know any

You know when you're in the bathroom and there's that mirror....

 

[Rival]

You know when you're in the bathroom and there's that mirror....

Lmao. I'm not a card carrying Tory. When I say I'm a conservative I mean small c and socially conservative. As the Tories legalised gay marriage, they're not for me. I voted for Corbyn when he ran. I just support Brexit, which my Labour voting family also do. I don't really dig any party.

 

[Secret Chief]

Lmao. I'm not a card carrying Tory. When I say I'm a conservative I mean small c and socially conservative. As the Tories legalised gay marriage, they're not for me. I voted for Corbyn when he ran. I just support Brexit, which my Labour voting family also do. I don't really dig any party.

Good grief, we both voted for Corbyn. The world's gone mad.

 

[Rival]

Good grief, we both voted for Corbyn. The world's gone mad.

Heck, I even attended one of his rallies in my local town.

 

[Secret Chief]

Heck, I even attended one of his rallies in my local town.

Blimmin eck so did I. Shook the man's hand at a party meeting too!