What does the Islamic teaching say about how a woman should dress?

[Spirit of Light]

There is only 3 verses in the quran that actually speak of this, and one of them say about both men and woman.

Dress Code for Women based on Quran (masjidtucson.org)

Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. God is fully Cognizant of everything they do.
And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to God, O you believers, that you may succeed.* (24:30-31)

*24:30-31 Dressing modestly, therefore, is a trait of the believing men and women. The minimum requirements for a woman's dress is to lengthen her garment (33:59) and to cover her chest. Tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe; such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress.

The second one is this

O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of God's signs, that they may take heed. (7:26)

The third one is.

They have deserved gardens of Eden wherein rivers flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and will wear clothes of green silk and velvet, and will rest on comfortable furnishings. What a wonderful reward; what a wonderful abode! (18:31)

God will admit those who believe and lead a righteous life into gardens with flowing streams. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and pearls, and their garments therein will be silk. (22:23)

On them will be clothes of green velvet, satin, and silver ornaments. Their Lord will provide them with pure drinks. (76:21)

Surely if the believers dress beautifully in Paradise, it cannot be unrighteous to do so here. And indeed God tells to dress nicely when we go to the mosques:


Interestingly the Quran does not require a woman to cover her hair, but rather to dress modestly and to cover her chest as we see in the following verses and their footnote from Dr. Rashad Khalifa’s translation of the Quran:

So the question remains: Was it men who could not look down who added the covering of the hair? Does Hijab actually mean a different form of vail?

 

[Spirit of Light]

I want to add this video to give a deeper sense of the topic, unfortunately, it is 17 minutes long but well worth looking into

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[danieldemol]

The OP is purity culture, the video was a bit more interesting because it suggested that the reason for dessert dwellers to wear a covering was to prevent the slaves being molested on the outskirts when relieving themselves. Which suggests that Muhammad's God did not have the means of plumbing like the ancient romans had.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The OP is purity culture, the video was a bit more interesting because it suggested that the reason for dessert dwellers to wear a covering was to prevent the slaves being molested on the outskirts when relieving themselves. Which suggests that Muhammad's God did not have the means of plumbing like the ancient romans had.

In my opinion.

Do you see the connection about woman is told by some of today's Muslim men how they should dress, compared what they Qurans say This is what the OP is trying to get through.

 

[danieldemol]

Do you see the connection about woman is told by some of today's Muslim men how they should dress, compared what they Qurans say This is what the OP is trying to get through.

It all comes down to interpretation, and I see the lady's interpretation as a better one, but I would be overstepping my bounds as a non-Muslim (or even as any other person lacking a time machine) to proclaim a certain interpretation as the true interpretation as intended by Muhammad Himself.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It all comes down to interpretation, and I see the lady's interpretation as a better one, but I would be overstepping my bounds as a non-Muslim (or even as any other person lacking a time machine) to proclaim a certain interpretation as the true interpretation as intended by Muhammad Himself.

In my opinion.

Thank you for replying back Now I understand your first reply better too.
And yes the lady in the video do have very good understanding too

 

[stvdv]

I want to add this video to give a deeper sense of the topic, unfortunately, it is 17 minutes long but well worth looking into

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I like the video, every second of it. The woman is a Master in explaining and capturing your attention

When she explained about Koran "so called" experts, it reminded me why I do not read interpretations of these clerics, but rather use my own conscience to interpret.

How long will it take to re-brainwash all these Muslims who believe those egoistic clerics? It's so much needed, because it's so wrong what still is being imposed on these billion women, even today in 2021

 

[Shakeel]

You just made a whole thread on how women should be treated based on hadiths, including those from Sahih Bukhari. Now you're ignoring the hadiths and twisting the text of the Qur'an.

Weird translation by the way - Rashad Khalifa's. That's what hadith rejectors prefer.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You just made a whole thread on how women should be treated based on hadiths, including those from Sahih Bukhari. Now you're ignoring the hadiths and twisting the text of the Qur'an.

Weird translation by the way - Rashad Khalifa's. That's what hadith rejectors prefer.

The only words in this OP that is from me is

So the question remains: Was it men who could not look down who added the covering of the hair? Does Hijab actually mean a different form of vail?

And
I want to add this video to give a deeper sense of the topic, unfortunately, it is 17 minutes long but well worth looking into

The other words in the OP belong to other people. Who I do happen to agree with.
You are of course welcome to disagree with the OP and its content, I have no interest in stopping you from holding a different understanding of Islam

 

[Shakeel]

The other words in the OP belong to other people. Who I do happen to agree wit

Yes, and?

If you want to ask, you could have put it in debates. I'm definitely not the only one here who has something to say to this, but you're preventing any proper discussion by putting it here. It's a waste.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yes, and?

If you want to ask, you could have put it in debates. I'm definitely not the only one here who has something to say to this, but you're preventing any proper discussion by putting it here. It's a waste.

It is in discussion part of RF to be discussed not debated.

Do you say man should treat woman as his property? and not as a free human being?

 

[Shakeel]

It is in discussion part of RF to be discussed not debated.

Do you say man should treat woman as his property? and not as a free human being?

The questions you ask are obvious debate openers. Putting them here is nothing but avoidance.

As long as you refuse to look at women's position in Islam open mindedly and as it is in the texts, more than anything, I don't think there is point in dwelling on it. The answers are simple. You would have found them by now. You just don't want to accept them. And the way you ask questions is deceiving.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The questions you ask are obvious debate openers. Putting them here is nothing but avoidance.

As long as you refuse to look at women's position in Islam open mindedly and as it is in the texts, more than anything, I don't think there is point in dwelling on it. The answers are simple. You would have found them by now. You just don't want to accept them. And the way you ask questions is deceiving.

I see Muslim woman as free human beings who according to Muhammad, did even discuss with the Prophet, female was spiritual active, but today some Muslim men tries to hide the woman, take away their education, so they can not speak up with wisdom.
Some Muslim men are afraid of the woman.

 

[Shakeel]

I see Muslim woman as free human beings who according to Muhammad,

He also said women should obey their husbands. He said if he had commanded anyone to prostrate to anyone but Allah, he would have commanded women to prostrate to their husbands.

 

[Spirit of Light]

He also said women should obey their husbands. He said if he had commanded anyone to prostrate to anyone but Allah, he would have commanded women to prostrate to their husbands.

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What do I care?

I care unconditionally for each human being and their wellbeing, And if it was not for females in this human world, there would not been any men born either.
My understanding is that Prophet Muhammad did care about every human's wellbeing. Not only other men.

 

[Shakeel]

I see Muslim woman as free human beings who according to Muhammad, did even discuss with the Prophet, female was spiritual active,

That's all according to Islam. I see you continue your old trend of vague accusations to no particular direction about no particular issue.

 

[Shakeel]

I care unconditionally for each human being and their wellbeing, And if it was not for females in this human world, there would not been any men born either.
My understanding is that Prophet Muhammad did care about every human's wellbeing. Not only other men.

What a surprise! You ignored my comment. How many times has this happened before? I've lost count.

 

[Spirit of Light]

That's all according to Islam. I see you continue your old trend of vague accusations to no particular direction about no particular issue.

I have no reason to accuse anyone of any wrong, The reason for the OP is to highlight that there is a difference in how many Muslims today treat women and how it was done by example, Muhammad.

You or other Muslims have your own understanding and view of this topic, and that is something I welcome. I can not speak for how others understand this topic

 

[Spirit of Light]

What a surprise! You ignored my comment. How many times has this happened before? I've lost count.

Ignored it, No
There is a difference in having responsibilities for the wife caring for her and helping her, and directly telling her, You can not show your face in public (for those Muslims who believe burka is the right wear for woman)

 

[Debater Slayer]

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