Your Country/State and Vaccine Mandates

[Debater Slayer]

Whether you agree or disagree with vaccine mandates, they're currently increasingly being implemented in different countries and regions. I'm interested to know what the current situation is regarding that in your country, state, etc.

In my country (Egypt), this is the current situation, as far as I've read and heard in the news so far:

- All educational facilities now require vaccination for those aged 18 or older, whether they're staff or students.

- All healthcare workers are required to get vaccinated. If they try to circumvent this while still working in health care, they may be legally prosecuted.

- Some sectors of the tourism industry in specific cities require vaccination for tour guides and other employees.

- Last week, a chief member of parliament stated that mandatory vaccination on a state level wasn't off the table, especially if the Delta variant didn't slow down in rate of infections. He also emphasized that employers would be fully within their legal rights to mandate vaccination for employees.

- Some people have resorted to using fake vaccination documents to get around the increasing number of mandates. I have no idea how many people are doing this, though.

What about your country/state? What is the status quo regarding vaccine mandates at the moment?

 

[Revoltingest]

Here in Michiganistan it's up to the individual
entity, eg, university, hospital, business, homeowner.
The only government requirements are for its
employees & students.

 

[ChristineM]

Copied and translated from the french government website

Info Coronavirus Covid-19

Coronavirus Information

Health protocol in schools, colleges and high schools

• Health protocol in universities

Extension of the "health pass"

• The "health pass" is mandatory to access certain places, establishments or events, indoors or outdoors, without any notion of gauge, such as cinemas, museums, cafes, restaurants, hospitals, retirement homes, medico-social establishments (except in case of emergency);
• Long-distance travel by interregional public transport is also concerned.

Vaccination

• Vaccination is mandatory for all people in contact with frail people (caregivers, non-caregivers, professionals and volunteers). Checks will be carried out from 15 September 2021.
• Vaccination is open to all adults unconditionally and to adolescents between the age of 12 and 17 years inclusive.
• A booster dose is recommended for people aged 65 and over as well as those with comorbidities at risk of severe forms of Covid-19(opinion of the High Authority of Health).
• A vaccination booster campaign will take place from mid-September for residents of nursing homes and long-term care units (USLDs), people over 80 living at home and those at very high risk of severe Covid-19,as well as immunocompromised people

 

[Secret Chief]

Well, you asked! Government website (for England):

- Coronavirus (COVID-19): guidance and support

- Coronavirus Legislation

 

[SomeRandom]

Pretty sure in Aus all medical fields have mandatory vaccines. As well as aged care and disability workers. People who transport food for a living and those who work at the airports in some capacity.
NSW probably have very high vaccine mandates relatively speaking, given their current situation. Everyone else is “strongly encouraged” to get it.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Whether you agree or disagree with vaccine mandates, they're currently increasingly being implemented in different countries and regions. I'm interested to know what the current situation is regarding that in your country, state, etc.

In my country (Egypt), this is the current situation, as far as I've read and heard in the news so far:

- All educational facilities now require vaccination for those aged 18 or older, whether they're staff or students.

- All healthcare workers are required to get vaccinated. If they try to circumvent this while still working in health care, they may be legally prosecuted.

- Some sectors of the tourism industry in specific cities require vaccination for tour guides and other employees.

- Last week, a chief member of parliament stated that mandatory vaccination on a state level wasn't off the table, especially if the Delta variant didn't slow down in rate of infections. He also emphasized that employers would be fully within their legal rights to mandate vaccination for employees.

- Some people have resorted to using fake vaccination documents to get around the increasing number of mandates. I have no idea how many people are doing this, though.

What about your country/state? What is the status quo regarding vaccine mandates at the moment?

Norway have the free choice if we wish to take the vaccine or not.

 

[Revoltingest]

Norway have the free choice if we wish to take the vaccine or not.

Does anyone require it, eg, employers,
hospitals, schools? Or is it just do as
you please everywhere?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Copied and translated from the french government website

Info Coronavirus Covid-19

Coronavirus Information

Health protocol in schools, colleges and high schools

• Health protocol in universities

Extension of the "health pass"

• The "health pass" is mandatory to access certain places, establishments or events, indoors or outdoors, without any notion of gauge, such as cinemas, museums, cafes, restaurants, hospitals, retirement homes, medico-social establishments (except in case of emergency);
• Long-distance travel by interregional public transport is also concerned.

Vaccination

• Vaccination is mandatory for all people in contact with frail people (caregivers, non-caregivers, professionals and volunteers). Checks will be carried out from 15 September 2021.
• Vaccination is open to all adults unconditionally and to adolescents between the age of 12 and 17 years inclusive.
• A booster dose is recommended for people aged 65 and over as well as those with comorbidities at risk of severe forms of Covid-19(opinion of the High Authority of Health).
• A vaccination booster campaign will take place from mid-September for residents of nursing homes and long-term care units (USLDs), people over 80 living at home and those at very high risk of severe Covid-19,as well as immunocompromised people

The "pass sanitaire" is causing widespread resentment, from what I hear? The French can be as suspicious of Government as Americans, can they not? As befits a political culture where revolution is regarded with some fondness.

I'm just going by what I hear from my partner's French family. They don't seem keen on coercion of any kind. What's the feeling where you are generally?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Does anyone require it, eg, employers,
hospitals, schools? Or is it just do as
you please everywhere?

I do not have a lot of knowledge about it, but as far as I know, some jobs do not hire people who has not at least one shot of the vaccine, but I think its only a few jobs who do this.
And if we travel abroad we have to be quarantined for a week or 14 days when we return to Norway. (I think)

 

[Twilight Hue]

Whether you agree or disagree with vaccine mandates, they're currently increasingly being implemented in different countries and regions. I'm interested to know what the current situation is regarding that in your country, state, etc.

In my country (Egypt), this is the current situation, as far as I've read and heard in the news so far:

- All educational facilities now require vaccination for those aged 18 or older, whether they're staff or students.

- All healthcare workers are required to get vaccinated. If they try to circumvent this while still working in health care, they may be legally prosecuted.

- Some sectors of the tourism industry in specific cities require vaccination for tour guides and other employees.

- Last week, a chief member of parliament stated that mandatory vaccination on a state level wasn't off the table, especially if the Delta variant didn't slow down in rate of infections. He also emphasized that employers would be fully within their legal rights to mandate vaccination for employees.

- Some people have resorted to using fake vaccination documents to get around the increasing number of mandates. I have no idea how many people are doing this, though.

What about your country/state? What is the status quo regarding vaccine mandates at the moment?

The People's Republic of New York goes without question.

 

[Debater Slayer]

The People's Republic of New York goes without question.

I don't know what you mean. Would you mind elaborating?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Whether you agree or disagree with vaccine mandates, they're currently increasingly being implemented in different countries and regions. I'm interested to know what the current situation is regarding that in your country, state, etc.

In my country (Egypt), this is the current situation, as far as I've read and heard in the news so far:

- All educational facilities now require vaccination for those aged 18 or older, whether they're staff or students.

- All healthcare workers are required to get vaccinated. If they try to circumvent this while still working in health care, they may be legally prosecuted.

- Some sectors of the tourism industry in specific cities require vaccination for tour guides and other employees.

- Last week, a chief member of parliament stated that mandatory vaccination on a state level wasn't off the table, especially if the Delta variant didn't slow down in rate of infections. He also emphasized that employers would be fully within their legal rights to mandate vaccination for employees.

- Some people have resorted to using fake vaccination documents to get around the increasing number of mandates. I have no idea how many people are doing this, though.

What about your country/state? What is the status quo regarding vaccine mandates at the moment?

VA so far has mandates for federal and state employees with optional covid weekly testing. I think now medical professionals. I'm not sure.

We don't have many noticable cases and not as many deaths as say NY. Least not where I live. Covid is pretty much non existent.

Masks are still requested not required. Our governor isn't strict about it as others. Most cause we have a lot of land that makes mandates less of an urgency than bigger cities and tight communities. In some states there is so much land that mandates become technicality.

 

[ChristineM]

The "pass sanitaire" is causing widespread resentment, from what I hear? The French can be as suspicious of Government as Americans, can they not? As befits a political culture where revolution is regarded with some fondness.

I'm just going by what I hear from my partner's French family. They don't seem keen on coercion of any kind. What's the feeling where you are generally?

I've never seen any trouble but i know there are protest in the bigger city's. I've had to use my pass sanitaire 3 times now. First time the guy in front of me didn't have one, he just shrugged and walked away.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

As far as I know here it's required for all medical workers, and visitors to medical facilities will have to show proof of vaccination or recent negative covid test.

 

[Debater Slayer]

The "pass sanitaire" is causing widespread resentment, from what I hear? The French can be as suspicious of Government as Americans, can they not? As befits a political culture where revolution is regarded with some fondness.

I'm just going by what I hear from my partner's French family. They don't seem keen on coercion of any kind. What's the feeling where you are generally?

Going by current statistics, I wouldn't call it "widespread resentment." It's more like a vocal minority who include (but are not limited to) some people who apparently don't even want to bother taking a COVID test before entering an enclosed space.

The vaccines aren't even mandated by the health pass, which highlights the cavalier and irresponsible mentality underpinning a subset of the objections of some protesters to the health pass.

To put into perspective that they're indeed a small minority:

France has administered at least 85,982,650 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 64.1% of the country’s population.

Furthermore:

During the last week reported, France averaged about 435,710 doses administered each day. At that rate, it will take a further 31 days to administer enough doses for another 10% of the population.

France: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Meanwhile:

In Paris, four demonstrations were organized by different groups and over 200 protests were taking place elsewhere in French cities and towns. Last week more than 200,000 marchers turned out.

French virus health pass in full use but protests keep going

Per the above links, the number of protesters throughout all of France is almost half the number of people receiving a vaccine dose on a single given day of the last reported week.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Going by current statistics, I wouldn't call it "widespread resentment." It's more like a vocal minority who include (but are not limited to) some people who apparently don't even want to bother taking a COVID test before entering an enclosed space.

The vaccines aren't even mandated by the health pass, which highlights the cavalier and irresponsible mentality underpinning a subset of the objections of some protesters to the health pass.

To put into perspective that they're indeed a small minority:



Furthermore:



France: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Meanwhile:



French virus health pass in full use but protests keep going

Per the above links, the number of protesters throughout all of France is almost half the number of people receiving a vaccine dose on a single given day of the last reported week.

Well yes. But I’m not sure statistics necessarily give the full picture.

It’s the pass sanitaire itself, rather than the vaccine policy, which seems to be causing resentment in some quarters.

Visceral distrust of authority is sometimes considered part of the French National character, if such a thing can be said to exist at all.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Well yes. But I’m not sure statistics necessarily give the full picture.

It’s the pass sanitaire itself, rather than the vaccine policy, which seems to be causing resentment in some quarters.

Visceral distrust of authority is sometimes considered part of the French National character, if such a thing can be said to exist at all.

Seeing protests about a health pass meant to reduce the number of preventable deaths and hospitalizations on the grounds of "distrust of authority" is admittedly quite sad given that there were no noticeable protests against some of the increasingly dictatorial restrictions on Muslims in France (e.g., burkini bans). That fact makes these protests seem all the more irrational and inconsistently selective.

But I digress. This thread is about vaccine mandates, not the protests in France.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Seeing protests about a health pass meant to reduce the number of preventable deaths and hospitalizations on the grounds of "distrust of authority" is admittedly quite sad given that there were no noticeable protests against some of the increasingly dictatorial restrictions on Muslims in France (e.g., burkini bans). That fact makes these protests seem all the more irrational and inconsistently selective.

But I digress. This thread is about vaccine mandates, not the protests in France.

I wasn’t endorsing (or opposing) any causes.

I am, like you, interested in how different countries deal with vaccinating their populations, and how those populations respond.

In the U.K., for the record, the vaccine roll out has been successful, required no coercion, and been generally well received by the majority of the population. Which is surprising in itself, because our government seems to have got just about everything else wrong over the last couple of years. Seemingly not this though.

I am vaccinated myself, but I would still have a certain amount of sympathy for anyone who resisted the idea of being coerced into something they may be hesitant about; and I do have some concerns about how quickly certain civil liberties have been surrendered. A frightened population is easy to control.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I wasn’t endorsing (or opposing) any causes.

I didn't think you were; I'm just expanding on my thoughts and following up on some of the points you've brought up.

I am, like you, interested in how different countries deal with vaccinating their populations, and how those populations respond.

In the U.K., for the record, the vaccine roll out has been successful, required no coercion, and been generally well received by the majority of the population. Which is surprising in itself, because our government seems to have got just about everything else wrong over the last couple of years. Seemingly not this though.

I am vaccinated myself, but I would still have a certain amount of sympathy for anyone who resisted the idea of being coerced into something they may be hesitant about; and I do have some concerns about how quickly certain civil liberties have been surrendered. A frightened population is easy to control.

Yeah, I'm largely against state-level vaccine mandates too. I'm almost tempted to support the idea of making an exception for the pandemic, but what would be an exception today could later be used as a precedent for dictatorship or encroachment on bodily autonomy in less dire times.

I still overwhelmingly reject opposition to vaccines when it's not based on medical evidence; it's just that I realize my opposition shouldn't dictate state-level mandates that would touch on what people put into their bodies.

 

[pearl]

As far as I know our governor has not issued mandates for vaccinations but has left it up to cities and towns.