Adam and Eve

[night912]

It is not a claim. it is my belief. I do not claim to be right or wrong, all i did was to say what my personal belif is. Not that any other person should or have to believe what i personally believe.

If i was claiming something i would say "this is the only way it should be seen" that is a claim of knowing that there is only one answer. And that is not my belief or view

So you are making a claim.

 

[night912]

It is not a claim. it is my belief. I do not claim to be right or wrong, all i did was to say what my personal belif is. Not that any other person should or have to believe what i personally believe.

If i was claiming something i would say "this is the only way it should be seen" that is a claim of knowing that there is only one answer. And that is not my belief or view

Everything you said here is wrong.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Everything you said here is wrong.

Acording to whom?

 

[night912]

Acording to whom?

See, you are making a claim. No need to deny.

 

[Spirit of Light]

See, you are making a claim. No need to deny.

Is asking a question the same as making a claim?

 

[night912]

Is asking a question the same as making a claim?

You said, "I do not claim to be right or wrong" and yet when I said that you were wrong, you rejected that you were wrong.

No need to deny it.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You said, "I do not claim to be right or wrong" and yet when I said that you were wrong, you rejected that you were wrong.

No need to deny it.

At what post did i say that?

Is saying "I believe" to make a claim?

 

[night912]

At what post did i say that?

Is saying "I believe" to make a claim?

I do not claim to be right or wrong,

No need to deny it.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Researched?
When did scripture ever research anything? Scripture makes statements and assertions. It doesn't do experiments. It doesn't form or test hypotheses.

Like the people of Acts 17:11 they 'searched' the Scriptures daily to see if what they were hearing was really found in Scripture. We can 'research' the Bible to see if what we are hearing is really found in the Bible.
We can test the Bible by use of a comprehensive concordance because it puts the Bible in alphabetical order by topic or subject arrangement.
Remember: the Bible is not meant to be a Math book, nor a Science book, but stands alone as God's Book of Life.

 

[Valjean]

Then why do you reject science when you admit that you still have a lot to learn and understand? You rejected something that you still have a lot to learn from and understand.

The religious often reject that which is evidenced and commonsense for unevidenced folklore and fantasy.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

What you find is the residue of bacterial decomposition. Much of that dust is also bacteria. The bottom line is humans are literally not made of dust. But you raise a good point why some people who live in a desert might assume people are dust because after decomposition there is a lot of dried residue from bacteria doing its thing.

Thank you for your reply.
I do wonder if we can have bacteria and Not have dust ________
I had a 16 year older cousin that graduated with honors and I remember he said to me we can't live without dust.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The religious often reject that which is evidenced and commonsense for unevidenced folklore and fantasy.

To me the world scene as described in 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13 is 'evidence' of today's world.
To me common sense is that man can't successfully direct his step, so we need someone else to step in.
Common sense tells me that MAN's history shows MAN has dominated MAN to MAN's hurt, MAN's injury.
So, instead of the religious rejecting, it is more the secular rejecting biblical evidence and common sense.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

At what post did i say that ? Is saying "I believe" to make a claim?

I'm thinking you might want to read Titus 3:9 and 2 Timothy 2:23.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

"I will give you 10 million Dollars"
Would you believe this promise? Then why should I believe in a 2000 year old promise?
The promise of everlasting life also is one such.

Well, if you are God, then one could believe what God says.
I find it's more than a 2,000 year old promise because Revelation 22:2 traces right back to Eden.
That ' healing ' for earth's nations begins with the promise found at Genesis 3:15.
( that promised ' seed ' (Messiah) proved to be Jesus )
Although the promise was made in Genesis, Scripture teaches it would Not be near - Luke 19:11-15.
When Messiah would arrive he would at first be here a short while then go away for a long time before returning.
The passing of time was needed for us to have the opportunity to be born and to think who we would like as Sovereign over us.
I see No reason to not believe God's promise to father Abraham - Genesis 12:3; Genesis 22:18.

 

[Valjean]

To me the world scene as described in 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13 is 'evidence' of today's world.
To me common sense is that man can't successfully direct his step, so we need someone else to step in.
Common sense tells me that MAN's history shows MAN has dominated MAN to MAN's hurt, MAN's injury.
So, instead of the religious rejecting, it is more the secular rejecting biblical evidence and common sense.

I'm thinking you might want to read Titus 3:9 and 2 Timothy 2:23.

I'm thinking you might want to stop using quotations from an ancient anthology of iron-age, Hebrew folklore.
I would not expect you to heed quotations from an Upanishad.

What makes your reference any more authoritative than one from Tolkin's Silmarillarion? Is it just age?
The Silmarillion - Wikipedia

 

[F1fan]

It is not a claim. it is my belief.

It's only a belief if you keep it to yourself. When you state it in a debate forum it also becomes an assertion we can discuss. You may not want to discuss the assertion, but you made it publicly in a debate forum. We debate here, it's not fellowship.

 

[F1fan]

Thank you for your reply.
I do wonder if we can have bacteria and Not have dust ________

There's some bacteria that is deadly to humans, so we don't that. I've often pondered that it's more likely that bacteria is God's chosen organism.

I had a 16 year older cousin that graduated with honors and I remember he said to me we can't live without dust.

Maybe she can buy you a Dustbuster for Christmas.

 

[Thief]

so do the experiment

you have to bleed for this one

put a drop of your blood on a flat clean surface
return later

using a straight sharp edge.....chop the dried blood
or scrap it into a mortar and pestal
chop and grind all you want to

and the result

dust

 

[Aupmanyav]

I would not expect you to heed quotations from an Upanishad. What makes your reference any more authoritative than one from Tolkin's Silmarillarion? Is it just age? The Silmarillion - Wikipedia

If it is age that matters, then I would quote RigVeda:

"arvāga devā asya visarjanenāthā ko veda yatābabhūva ll"
The Gods are later than this world's production. Who knows then whence it first came into being?
Rig Veda: Rig-Veda, Book 10: HYMN CXXIX. Creation. (around 1,000 BCE)

 

[Aupmanyav]

Well, if you are God, then one could believe what God says.

In my belief we do not have a God. But what constitutes me is none other than what constitutes the whole universe.
Also, my belief does not have creation, or birth and death, or heaven or hell, or salvation or resurrection.