Socially Right, Economically Left

[Rival]

I couldn't imagine having a life taken out of my womb at any stage. I'd never forgive myself. This is not even an argument for me, hence my blunt answers.

 

[Suave]

I couldn't imagine having a life taken out of my womb at any stage. I'd never forgive myself. This is not even an argument for me, hence my blunt answers.

Of course, I'd respect your right to make that choice. Likewise, I'd respect a woman's choice to terminate an embryo's life from forming in her womb before this fetus would develop consciousness.

 

[Rival]

So can we get back to the OP now?

 

[Revoltingest]

So can we get back to the OP now?

I think you could fit in the Republican Party here.
The stereotypes proffered by liberals here make it
look less inviting than it is. Not a perfect fit, but
workable.

 

[Debater Slayer]

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[Kooky]

So can we get back to the OP now?

Did you read my post? What do you think of it?

 

[Rival]

Did you read my post? What do you think of it?

It seems a very US take, but it makes sense.

 

[Kooky]

It seems a very US take, but it makes sense.

I'm not from the US, actually.

 

[Rival]

I'm not from the US, actually.

I know, but it struck me that way nevertheless.

 

[Kooky]

I know, but it struck me that way nevertheless.

If I knew you'd wanted examples from the UK, I would have led with Disraeli.

 

[epronovost]

I would think trying to focus on improving the girl scouts would have been a better option.

That, in the best of circumstances would require decades and even then. The Boy Scout would still boast over half a century of existence and repute that cannot be ''won back'' by the girl scout or a comparable organisation. You can't freeze in time an organisation and not the other. You can't erase history. It's cute on paper, but it simply isn't that simple in reality.

 

[epronovost]

Are there no reasons that boys might benefit from
single gender activities? I wouldn't rule it out.

I don't think anybody has ever provided a study that shows that boys benefit from single gender activities. On the opposite, exposing children to a wide variety of people, situation and style stimulate pro-social behavior and learning.

 

[Yerda]

So can we get back to the OP now?

You might find the Blue Labour faction of the UK labour movement interesting.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Are there no reasons that boys might benefit from
single gender activities? I wouldn't rule it out.

Boys and girls usually don't even like playing together as children. Lol

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't think anybody has ever provided a study that shows that boys benefit from single gender activities. On the opposite, exposing children to a wide variety of people, situation and style stimulate pro-social behavior and learning.

Same for girls?

 

[epronovost]

Same for girls?

Same for girls. Of course that doesn't consider organised sports amongst teens and adults (though children sports team can be mixed without any problem). The idea of gender exclusive clubs for children and young teen is most often stupid. There might be a few exceptio, but I can't think of one right now.

 

[Kooky]

I remember awhile back, the Boy Scouts got a lot of slack for not allowing girls into the Boy Scouts. They eventually gave in and allowed this, but how much poo got flung at them for wanting to keep it to boys only? By limiting membership to boys were they insinuating girls to be inferior? I suspect not; it seemed they just wanted to keep their traditions.

There are other issues within the Boy Scouts, of course, and I'm not saying this is a perfect organization(I was kind of relieved when my son quit), but this issue is an example of a traditional group not being allowed to do things in their traditional way.

Who forbade them?

 

[JustGeorge]

Who forbade them?

Forbade the girls, or forbade the Boy Scouts to remain boys only?

(Sorry, didn't understand the question.)

 

[Kooky]

Forbade the girls, or forbade the Boy Scouts to remain boys only?

(Sorry, didn't understand the question.)

You say the Boy Scouts weren't allowed to remain male-only. Who forbade them to be male-only?

 

[JustGeorge]

You say the Boy Scouts weren't allowed to remain male-only. Who forbade them to be male-only?

You know, I cant quite remember anymore. I recall watching it play it in the newspapers years ago, and then the backlash from the Girl Scouts... Here are some articles I found that talk a bit about the changes.

Why Do the Boy Scouts Want to Include Girls?

I'm a former Girl Scout — and I think the Boy Scouts' plan to allow female members is a pseudo-progressive ploy

Welcoming Girls, Boy Scouts Program Is Now Scouts BSA

If I'm understanding right, they lifted the ban on girls themselves, after pressure and membership loss.