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Is God pro-abortion?

A failed abortion means that the woman did not have an abortion. An abortion could not have taken place if the pregnancy wasn't terminated and the woman gave birth to a living baby. How could they lose their child if she ends up giving birth?
She may or may not have been pregnant, people are assuming that. The Hebrew word for miscarriage is shakol, that word is not used in Numbers 5. Read it yourself as I said it was the law of a jealous husband and unfaithful wife. The sign she was unfaithful was her stomach would swell and thigh rot, not necessarily an abortion.
 

night912

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She may or may not have been pregnant, people are assuming that. The Hebrew word for miscarriage is shakol, that word is not used in Numbers 5. Read it yourself as I said it was the law of a jealous husband and unfaithful wife. The sign she was unfaithful was her stomach would swell and thigh rot, not necessarily an abortion.
The woman was pregnant. After drinking the chemical(cursed holy water), she is no longer pregnant. Yep, that's abortion through the use of a chemical. God condones killing, but when it comes to murder, he condemns it. God condones giving chemical to a woman, and when it comes to giving chemical to a woman resulting in an abortion, God condones it. There you have it, God does not condemn abortion.
 
The woman was pregnant. After drinking the chemical(cursed holy water), she is no longer pregnant. Yep, that's abortion through the use of a chemical. God condones killing, but when it comes to murder, he condemns it. God condones giving chemical to a woman, and when it comes to giving chemical to a woman resulting in an abortion, God condones it. There you have it, God does not condemn abortion.
God does condone a miscarriage in certain situations, like if the woman is pregnant Numbers 5 for unfaithfulness. What God condemns is murder, so when does God consider it murder in pregnancy, what stage of pregnancy? Take your pick, you judge, what does He say?
 

night912

Well-Known Member
God does condone a miscarriage in certain situations, like if the woman is pregnant Numbers 5 for unfaithfulness. What God condemns is murder, so when does God consider it murder in pregnancy,

According to the bible, the word of God, NEVER, He allows induced miscarriage and never condemns it, therefore, God doesn't see abortion as murder.

what stage of pregnancy? Take your pick, you judge, what does He say?
Go ask your God and come back and tell me, since never said anything about it. It's important for you to remember this when asking him. If your God tells you that it's 20 weeks and 6 days, make sure you ask for clarification whether it's 6 - 24 hour days or 6 - ages of days. You wouldn't want your brothers and sisters to repeat the same thing that happened to Genesis now would you? ;)


BTW,
Miscarriage = Spontaneous Abortion

Abortion = Induced Miscarriage
 
According to the bible, the word of God, NEVER, He allows induced miscarriage and never condemns it, therefore, God doesn't see abortion as murder.


Go ask your God and come back and tell me, since never said anything about it. It's important for you to remember this when asking him. If your God tells you that it's 20 weeks and 6 days, make sure you ask for clarification whether it's 6 - 24 hour days or 6 - ages of days. You wouldn't want your brothers and sisters to repeat the same thing that happened to Genesis now would you? ;)


BTW,
Miscarriage = Spontaneous Abortion

Abortion = Induced Miscarriage
God does not condone induced abortion for any reason at all, it’s only in certain rare instances. 800,000 per year we have in the US is not something God condones. Life starts at conception according to Scripture.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I never said that abortion isn’t ok in certain instances and not ignoring that fact at all. The abortions of approx. 800,000 per year in the US is not what the Bible supports. The fact remains abortion and death was not Gods plan for mankind in the beginning. All that was due to man’s rebellion against God when they decided to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. That’s the tree you are currently eating from. I choose the tree of life.
You may say that now but that is belied by this post of yours about late term abortions:

"A problem as far as what? The number of them? That it’s murder in “most” cases? Not sure what you mean"

You are now contradicting yourself since late term abortions are very very rarely elective.

And let's leave the Adam and Eve myth out of this. Not only did it never happen. Any rational person can see that it paints God as being an incompetent and evil God. I cannot see why you think that God is incompetent and evil.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
God does not condone induced abortion for any reason at all, it’s only in certain rare instances. 800,000 per year we have in the US is not something God condones. Life starts at conception according to Scripture.

Now you are contradicting the Bible. Not that I mind. And if you want to claim that life begins at conception the burden of proof is upon you. Right now the law says that it does not.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
She may or may not have been pregnant, people are assuming that. The Hebrew word for miscarriage is shakol, that word is not used in Numbers 5. Read it yourself as I said it was the law of a jealous husband and unfaithful wife. The sign she was unfaithful was her stomach would swell and thigh rot, not necessarily an abortion.
As has been explained to you, you rely far to much on a literal translation. You cannot understand the Bible properly when you do so.

I guess you are now saying that Jesus was about 7 foot tall, 3 and a half feet across and a couple of inches thick.
 
According to the bible, the word of God, NEVER, He allows induced miscarriage and never condemns it, therefore, God doesn't see abortion as murder.


Go ask your God and come back and tell me, since never said anything about it. It's important for you to remember this when asking him. If your God tells you that it's 20 weeks and 6 days, make sure you ask for clarification whether it's 6 - 24 hour days or 6 - ages of days. You wouldn't want your brothers and sisters to repeat the same thing that happened to Genesis now would you? ;)


BTW,
Miscarriage = Spontaneous Abortion

Abortion = Induced Miscarriage
You may say that now but that is belied by this post of yours about late term abortions:

"A problem as far as what? The number of them? That it’s murder in “most” cases? Not sure what you mean"

You are now contradicting yourself since late term abortions are very very rarely elective.

And let's leave the Adam and Eve myth out of this. Not only did it never happen. Any rational person can see that it paints God as being an incompetent and evil God. I cannot see why you think that God is incompetent and evil.
I’m not contradicting myself, I know exactly what I meant and have been consistent. We’ve talked about a number of different scenarios so stop the dishonesty.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I’m not contradicting myself, I know exactly what I meant and have been consistent. We’ve talked about a number of different scenarios so stop the dishonesty.
Of course you are contradicting yourself. You are making the mistake of translating Numbers 5 than you do other parts of the Bible. The fact that a specific Hebrew word is not there does not matter. Jesus said "I am the door". By your reasoning that means he is tall, broad, not deep at all and made of wood.
 
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