Is Islam the Antichrist?

[ayin]

I think you are missing the point. I don't write in old English because I'm not from that time frame. Likewise Ezekial wouldn't have written in what to Him was an ancient script.

According to your own chart the letter for Tav by Ezekial's time was an X, not a t, so Ezekial most probably wrote it with an X given that, 'According to dates given in the text, Ezekiel received his prophetic call in the fifth year of the first deportation to Babylonia (592 BC) and was active until about 570 BC' 1

1 The Book of Ezekiel | Old Testament

Even if that were true, how does that matter?

God certainly made the original image of the letter on the foreheads of the people who were saved from judgment. It would make little sense if he had used a modified version. But a cross was also made on the forehead of Cain so that he was saved too.
Genesis 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, sevenfold shall it be avenged. And the LORD made a mark(oth=God nailed on the cross) on Cain, that whosoever found him should not slay him.

The second letter of the Hebrew alphabet is called beyt, which means "house". Do you think 2 Sam. 2:4 is talking about the letter beyt of Judah, or the house of Judah.

In early hebrew the letter Beyt/Bet is the image of a house, and has the meaning house, so the answer is it talks about both, for it's the same.

 

[ayin]

What if this number was not 666? What if it was 616?

For the number 616 there are only two documents; very few. Irenaeus has already confirmed that the number 616 is a copy error.

Which Jew told you that the cross is the saving sign? Lol. The cross is the sign of sedition. The sign of murder of so many Jews. The sign that instills fear.

In the hebrew Bible this sign is used as salvation, see Cain and Ezekiel.

The Quran saying God has no son, does not mean it is antichrist. Maybe saying that Gos has one son, unlike the whole Bible where there are many sons, and everyone who are god believing are sons, is to actually be antichrist.

There are many sons of God in the Bible because they were either created by God or are God's servants. Jesus, on the other hand, is the only begotten son of God.
Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did he ever say, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you"?

 

[firedragon]

For the number 616 there are only two documents; very few. Irenaeus has already confirmed that the number 616 is a copy error.

In the hebrew Bible this sign is used as salvation, see Cain and Ezekiel.

There are many sons of God in the Bible because they were either created by God or are God's servants. Jesus, on the other hand, is the only begotten son of God.
Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did he ever say, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you"?

So this basically drives you to a theological discussion?

Iraneous was no trinitarian. Thus do you all his teachings? Or do you cherry pick what he said about a number being a mistake? How do you know 616 was a copyist error? It’s fine if it was, but what is your reasoning? No problem.

Please do quote the verse where the sign of the cross is the sign of salvation.

Also, please tell me if epphraim was Jesus’s elder brother.

 

[Tumah]

God certainly made the original image of the letter on the foreheads of the people who were saved from judgment. It would make little sense if he had used a modified version. But a cross was also made on the forehead of Cain so that he was saved too.
Genesis 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, sevenfold shall it be avenged. And the LORD made a mark(oth=God nailed on the cross) on Cain, that whosoever found him should not slay him.

In early hebrew the letter Beyt/Bet is the image of a house, and has the meaning house, so the answer is it talks about both, for it's the same.

Please see my first post in this thread.

 

[Moses_UK]

My first Theard was too aggressive, I'm trying to do better.
So, why I believe that the Antichrist is Islam, and therefore will soon conquer the world:

1. The prophet Daniel identifies the foot of the statue as Arabic.

2. The number six in Greek is very similar to the Arabic word Allah.
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3. Islam says that their "Messiah" will destroy the cross, but the cross is the saving sign of the Jews and Christians in the bible.

4. The Quran says God has no son, and it says Jesus is only human, according to the letter of John the signs of the Antichrist.

5. The Quran teaches a different gospel, claiming, for example, that Jesus was not crucified but saved from it by Allah. The Bible calls anyone who preaches a different gospel cursed, and Jesus himself called Peter Satan because he wanted to save him from death on the cross.

What makes you think the Bible is true? let me teach you some things your pastors and priest have been hiding.

1. The Bible authors are unknown and written by anonymous writers
2. The Bible is full of contradictions
3. Texts have been omitted, deleted, and added throughout history
4. The writers of the Bible were NOT eyewitnesses to Jesus
5. Doctrines of the bible were later additions to the Paulines religion by people like Augustine
6. Councils was set up 300 years after the death of Jesus to create a new religion which added lots of pagan beliefs
7. The original greek manuscripts are all lost and what we have today are copies of copies of copies of copies

How dare you even claim Jesus?

 

[soulsurvivor]

My first Theard was too aggressive

I did not read your first Theard, but are you sure you are Jewish? Is there an Anti-Christ in Judaism?

 

[paarsurrey]

What makes you think the Bible is true? let me teach you some things your pastors and priest have been hiding.

1. The Bible authors are unknown and written by anonymous writers
2. The Bible is full of contradictions
3. Texts have been omitted, deleted, and added throughout history
4. The writers of the Bible were NOT eyewitnesses to Jesus
5. Doctrines of the bible were later additions to the Paulines religion by people like Augustine
6. Councils was set up 300 years after the death of Jesus to create a new religion which added lots of pagan beliefs
7. The original greek manuscripts are all lost and what we have today are copies of copies of copies of copies

How dare you even claim Jesus?

I agree with one here.
In the wake of one's post, I understand; Paul, Pauline Church and Pauline Priesthood are working against the teachings of the truthful and innocent Jesus and hence Paul, Pauline Church and Pauline Priesthood themselves collectively are the Anti-Christ. Right, please?

Regards

 

[McBell]

What makes you think the Bible is true? let me teach you some things your pastors and priest have been hiding.

1. The Bible authors are unknown and written by anonymous writers
2. The Bible is full of contradictions
3. Texts have been omitted, deleted, and added throughout history
4. The writers of the Bible were NOT eyewitnesses to Jesus
5. Doctrines of the bible were later additions to the Paulines religion by people like Augustine
6. Councils was set up 300 years after the death of Jesus to create a new religion which added lots of pagan beliefs
7. The original greek manuscripts are all lost and what we have today are copies of copies of copies of copies

How dare you even claim Jesus?

Now do the Koran...

 

[Muffled]

I believe Islam can't be the Anti-Christ because he is a person and Islam is not a person. At times some adherents of Islam take an anti-Christian position but then there are many who do that including the Jews.

 

[Muffled]

This appears to be inaccurate. For example:

Mahdi - Wikipedia

Who Is Imam Mahdi?

I believe that the Mahdi is only mentioned in Hadiths which are totally unreliable and not the Word of God.

 

[Muffled]

Welcome to RF "ayin",
I see you found the "Key" to try to do better. Indeed adding the word "I believe" is the magic word to avoid getting posts deleted

I think it is quite simple. IF Islam is "Anti" Christ THEN Islam is "AntiChrist"
Christ stands for "Love" and "Compassion", which all Faiths have at their core; Love being the Greatest Commandment; the message of the Prophets is Pro Christ

I believe Christ is the Greek word for Messiah who will rescue Israel from her enemies when all the world is gathered against her at the Battle of Armageddon.

 

[Moses_UK]

Now do the Koran...

if you can please share. if not I would advise you to take the shahada (become Muslim)

 

[Moses_UK]

I believe Christ is the Greek word for Messiah who will rescue Israel from her enemies when all the world is gathered against her at the Battle of Armageddon.

"I believe" is not factual. I would advise you to speak with clarity and objectivity.

 

[Moses_UK]

I believe that the Mahdi is only mentioned in Hadiths which are totally unreliable and not the Word of God.

How can a Christian claim to know the truth? answer these questions if you can:

1. WHY are the Bible authors unknown and written by anonymous writers who weren’t eyewitnesses to Jesus’s life?

2. WHY where they complied and canonized 100s of years after the death of Jesus?

3. WHY have lots of texts (doctrinal) been omitted and changed in the NIV in comparison to the KJV? (Scribes have been omitting, deleted, and added texts throughout history – and we have proof.

4. WHY are there thousands of Bibles with different texts existing?

5. WHY are all the original Greek manuscripts lost, and what we have today are copies of copies of copies of copies? (remember Jesus didn’t even speak Greek)

6. WHAT was the earliest Christians using (for guidance in doctrine) before the creation of the modern Bible?

7. WHY does the Bible have LOTS of contradictions and not preserved if from God?

8. WHY are there discrepancies of the crucifixion in the canonical gospels?

9. WHY are doctrines of Christianity later additions to the Pauline’s religion by people like Augustine/Constantine etc.

10. WHY were the councils set up 300 + years after the death of Jesus to create a new doctrines (religion) which added lots of pagan beliefs and rituals?

11. WHY does Jesus’s teachings in the Bible contradict the modern-day Christian beliefs such as trinity/keeping the laws etc?

12. WHY did Jesus practice the old Laws, and forced other to do so?

13. Why did Jesus differentiate between himself and God? (John 20:17)

14. WHY is the Trinity NOT explicit in the Bible?

15. WHY didn’t the Jews/old testament confirm the trinity?

16. WHY did the disciples NOT know, or worship the Trinity God Head?

 

[stvdv]

What makes you think the Bible is true? let me teach you some things your pastors and priest have been hiding.
1. The Bible authors are unknown and written by anonymous writers
2. The Bible is full of contradictions
3. Texts have been omitted, deleted, and added throughout history
4. The writers of the Bible were NOT eyewitnesses to Jesus
5. Doctrines of the bible were later additions to the Paulines religion by people like Augustine
6. Councils was set up 300 years after the death of Jesus to create a new religion which added lots of pagan beliefs
7. The original greek manuscripts are all lost and what we have today are copies of copies of copies of copies
How dare you even claim Jesus?

I did not see him "claim Jesus". Could you quote which claim you speak off?

 

[stvdv]

How can a Christian claim to know the truth?

In the same way that a Muslim "can claim to know the truth"

 

[stvdv]

I believe Christ is the Greek word for Messiah who will rescue Israel from her enemies when all the world is gathered against her at the Battle of Armageddon.

Could be. But it might result in many more death than WW2 ... as Israel is so tiny
Does it mean 8 billion minus Israel will be terminated by the Messiah, or will this be a battle without killing?

 

[stvdv]

"I believe" is not factual. I would advise you to speak with clarity and objectivity.

Not factual, but fully correct, don't you think?
Totally in line with Rules and Regulations. Allah might love it that we follow Rules and Regulations

 

[Moses_UK]

In the same way that a Muslim "can claim to know the truth"

Am sorry, but as a Hindu, you have no leg to stand on. I Am surprised Hinduism exists due to the illogical, racist, sexist, colonist, etc

 

[stvdv]

Am sorry, but as a Hindu, you have no leg to stand on. I Am surprised Hinduism exists due to the illogical, racist, sexist, colonist, etc

Don't be sorry, esp. if you don't mean it AND you reply to me

It is even weaker than what you hint at, in your below quote, don't you think?

"I believe" is not factual. I would advise you to speak with clarity and objectivity.