Maybe reincarnation is just an illusion of God's love

[Starlight]

Maybe reincarnation is just an illusion of God's love. Maybe God is not really so loving that he gives his children more chances through reincarnation. Maybe eternal hell or annihilation of the soul is the truth if we fail this one life. That we only have one lifetime that determines our destiny for eternity. I do not hope so. It does not sound like a loving God .. What do you think about the matter?

 

[Starlight]

I'm afraid of God if eternal hell or annhilation is true. If this is really true then God is not uconditional love. He does not really love all his children..

 

[Starlight]

Maybe reincarnation and God's eternal love is a illusion. Maybe God does not love us with an eternal love. That God's eternal love is just a naive belief without reality

 

[SalixIncendium]

Maybe reincarnation has nothing to do with God. Maybe it's a result of attachment to this perceived reality.

 

[Starlight]

Maybe reincarnation has nothing to do with God. Maybe it's a result of attachment to this perceived reality.

Explain more please. I do not quite understand what you mean

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm afraid of God if eternal hell or annhilation is true. If this is really true then God is not uconditional love. He does not really love all his children..

Why being afraid? If you are afraid of God sending you to hell, isn't it your obligation to follow your Gods teaching?
Both in Christianity and islam, teaching say we must better our self every day, isn't it?

So if we humans just doing anything we like, without thinking of what the teaching tell us is a good way to act, speak or think.
Is it the God who send you to hell or heaven, or is it the judgment of how you acted, spoke, and thought through your life?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Explain more please. I do not quite understand what you mean

As I understand it, being bound to samsara (the cycle of rebirth) occurs because one is attached to objects or maintains desires in vyavaharika (this transactional reality). Once one has realized one's true nature as Brahman and has shed all attachments and desire, one achieves Moksha (liberation from samsara).

 

[Twilight Hue]

Maybe reincarnation is just an illusion of God's love. Maybe God is not really so loving that he gives his children more chances through reincarnation. Maybe eternal hell or annihilation of the soul is the truth if we fail this one life. That we only have one lifetime that determines our destiny for eternity. I do not hope so. It does not sound like a loving God .. What do you think about the matter?

Chances? For what?

 

[Starlight]

Why being afraid? If you are afraid of God sending you to hell, isn't it your obligation to follow your Gods teaching?
Both in Christianity and islam, teaching say we must better our self every day, isn't it?

So og er ås humans just doing anything we like, without thinking of what the teaching tell us is a good way to act, speak or think.
Is it the God who send you to hell og heaven, or is it the judgment of how you acted, spoke, and thought through your life?

No, if God is not eternal love and maybe sends me to hell, I will be afraid every day. I struggle with anxiety, and the thought of God can send me to hell only makes the anxiety worse. It makes my depression worse too. It makes me feel like the world is awful.

 

[Spirit of Light]

No, if God is not eternal love and maybe sends me to hell, I will be afraid every day. I struggle with anxiety, and the thought of God can send me to hell only makes the anxiety worse. It makes my depression worse too. It makes me feel like the world is awful.

I been there too, i know that fear, it is not Nice to feel that preasure of "have to be good, or i go to hell"

 

[Starlight]

As I understand it, being bound to samsara (the cycle of rebirth) occurs because one is attached to objects or maintains desires in vyavaharika (this transactional reality). Once one has realized one's true nature as Brahman and has shed all attachments and desire, one achieves Moksha (liberation from samsara).

but what do you mean by God having nothing to do with reincarnation?

 

[Starlight]

I been there too, i know that fear, it is not Nice to feel that preasure of "have to be good, or i go to hell"

How did your fear go away?

 

[SalixIncendium]

but what do you mean by God having nothing to do with reincarnation?

I mean it's us who ultimately is responsible for whether or not we are reincarnated, not any god.

 

[Starlight]

Chances? For what?

That if someone fails in life, they have more chances to live a better life

 

[Starlight]

I mean it's us who ultimately is responsible for whether or not we are reincarnated, not any god.

hm maybe thats true. But maybe not

 

[Spirit of Light]

How did your fear go away?

When i understood i would be judged by my own action, words and thoughts.
Then it to me come clear, i am the one who deside if i go to heaven or hell.
Allah will see my effort to become a better person, i will have "conversation" with Allah to gain understanding if i am doing it right or wrong.

 

[Starlight]

When i understood i would be judged by my own action, words and thoughts.
Then it to me come clear, i am the one who deside if i go to heaven or hell.
Allah will see my effort to become a better person, i will have "conversation" with Allah to gain understanding if i am doing it right or wrong.

so you believe God does not judge people?

 

[Spirit of Light]

so you believe God does not judge people?

Not in the way that if you truly try your best, but keep failing in areas of your life, God send you to hell just because he can. No i do not believe in that.

I believe when we do our best effort every day, study the teaching, stop swearing, and find love toward everything, God will grant us forgivness when we ask for it, and give us a New change when we fail.

But if we dont give a "poop" about the teaching and never try to better our self then we might go to hell yes.
That is my understanding

 

[Starlight]

Not in the way that if you truly try your best, but keep failing in areas of your life, God send you to hell just because he can. No i do not believe in that.

I believe when we do our best effort every day, study the teaching, stop swearing, and find love toward everything, God will grant us forgivness when we ask for it, and give us a New change when we fail.

But if we dont give a "poop" about the teaching and never try to better our self then we might go to hell yes.
That is my understanding

if God sends persons to eternal hell or annhilation then God does not have an eternal love for us. If God has a love for us that never ends, he would not send anyone to eternal hell

 

[Spirit of Light]

if God sends persons to eternal hell or annhilation then God does not have an eternal love for us. If God has a love for us that never ends, he would not send anyone to eternal hell

So do you believe every human being comes to heaven, no matter how evil or cruel they been?