Have half of the US lost their minds?

[Revoltingest]

The world is made up of pretty much mostly ordinary people. The outliers (the super smart and the abysmally stupid) are just that...outliers.

Ordinary people spend the majority of their intellectual energy on the things that make ordinary life possible...can I feed my kids, can I find somebody to love, can I feel safe, can I keep some of the money I earn, can I get medical help if the worst happens.

Most ordinary people also don't like change very much -- face it, the only humans who really like change are wet babies.

As to Trump, as @Revoltingest repeatedly points out, he's on his way out, and nothing that the increasingly bizarre Giuliani does is going to change that. In fact, I think I'm beginning to fall in with @Revoltingest and think, "be patient...it'll play out the way it's designed to."

One small bone to pick....
93% of people are below average intelligence.
It's science.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Ours is a very thin, shallow, and self centered culture whose myth of American exceptionalism is under increasing stress.

 

[Goddess Kit]

People used to be proud to be American. I just don't sense that anymore, except from the ones who are deluded.

 

[Secret Chief]

You are right, Goddess.

News article heading from the Ayrshire Daily News:

South Ayrshire Golf club owner loses 2020 presidential election

 

[Heyo]

But isn't there some pride or journalistic code of honor, that truth is what should be reported and that it matter etc.? I know it might not be like by law or anything, but still...

Even if you are a journalist with some professional ethics, there's an editor and a publisher and an owner with none of that. And at the end of the day, you have to eat.
Simply leave and go to the next newspaper? Guess who owns that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

People used to be proud to be American. I just don't sense that anymore, except from the ones who are deluded.

Much to the advantage of hostile interests.

 

[Kenny]

I mean, whether a person voted for Trump or not, I still think such person would see the value in the president having an advisor that knows about pandemics, when you are in the middle of one!!
Instead of assigning one that apparently doesn't know anything about it and still decide to give advice to people, especially when such person is incapable of following the advice from people, which actually knows about it.

But guess these people are still stuck in the election.... Christ almighty

Personally, I don't mind a non-medical person managin.

I wish it were as simple as what you are saying since even within the medical community there are differences. Even CDC flip-flopped on so many issues.

Do we need medical advise? Of course. Is its economic impact important? I think so. Would Pharma need to be included. For sure. Would someone in charge of a distribution need to be there? Definitely.

so any group need a multiplicity of people with different capacities.

 

[Kenny]

And how exactly does this vendicate Trump's misdeeds, failures, and buffoonery?

Application?

 

[Kenny]

And here I thought it was Joe Biden who was on the ticket, not Hunter.

Biden used his position for financial gain... which, IMV, he will do again. After all, he loves China (and for good reason)

 

[Nimos]

Personally, I don't mind a non-medical person managin.

I wish it were as simple as what you are saying since even within the medical community there are differences. Even CDC flip-flopped on so many issues.

Do we need medical advise? Of course. Is its economic impact important? I think so. Would Pharma need to be included. For sure. Would someone in charge of a distribution need to be there? Definitely.

so any group need a multiplicity of people with different capacities.

I agree, the person doesn't have to be the leading scientist on this. It could simply be one that is very good at communicating, but if the person is incapable of following the advice from people that knows about these things and their advice. And instead starts to give their own, based on absolutely no credentials, then that is not.

NASA doesn't put random people in charge of their space programs either, that just say stuff that they have seen in Star trek or Star wars, because they like those movies or whatever. Anyone would think they would be insane should they do it.

But a president assigning a person to handle a pandemic that kills people, and who know absolutely nothing about it and at the same time is incapable of relaying what the experts say. That is perfectly fine?

 

[Father Heathen]

Application?

"Application"?

 

[MNoBody]

I get almost shocked everyday by the stupidity of some americans, what on Earth have you been smoking over there?

Why are people (Republicans) not standing in line to get rid of this absolute idiot of a president and his partners in crimes?

Have these people just thrown common sense out the window, when they listen to these absolute imbeciles? I would be furious and embarrassed on behalf of my country men, if I were a democrat, and I feel with them, I really do.

years of cultural indoctrination most likely is the cause

 

[MNoBody]

One small bone to pick....
93% of people are below average intelligence.
It's science.

it's almost like it is the goal of the farmers there are out to raise domesticated livestock just intelligent enough to swipe a card and operate basic machinery...shop til they drop

 

[Kenny]

I agree, the person doesn't have to be the leading scientist on this. It could simply be one that is very good at communicating, but if the person is incapable of following the advice from people that knows about these things and their advice. And instead starts to give their own, based on absolutely no credentials, then that is not.

NASA doesn't put random people in charge of their space programs either, that just say stuff that they have seen in Star trek or Star wars, because they like those movies or whatever. Anyone would think they would be insane should they do it.

But a president assigning a person to handle a pandemic that kills people, and who know absolutely nothing about it and at the same time is incapable of relaying what the experts say. That is perfectly fine?

But who was in charge? And who should have been in charge?

 

[Kenny]

"Application"?

noun

ap·pli·ca·tion | \ ˌa-plə-ˈkā-shən \
Definition of application

1: an act of applying:
a(1): an act of putting something to use application of new techniques
(2): a use to which something is put new applications for old remedies
b: an act of administering or laying one thing on another application of paint to a house

 

[Nimos]

But who was in charge? And who should have been in charge?

Honestly I don't care who is in charge, what is important is that this person can communicate, what is considered the best knowledge and guidelines to people, so they know how to best deal with the situation.

Such person is in a position where they have access to the best experts in the field, which we normal people don't have, so we have to trust what information they give us. Obviously and luckily for us there are other people capable of pointing out when nonsense is being said, because this person in such position is not the only one with access to these people.

And in the end, its about trusting one's government, they were put there to serve in best interest of the people and not the other way around. Im not sure when people forgot that? or that they forgot it was important?

 

[Kenny]

Honestly I don't care who is in charge, what is important is that this person can communicate, what is considered the best knowledge and guidelines to people, so they know how to best deal with the situation.

Such person is in a position where they have access to the best experts in the field, which we normal people don't have, so we have to trust what information they give us. Obviously and luckily for us there are other people capable of pointing out when nonsense is being said, because this person in such position is not the only one with access to these people.

And in the end, its about trusting one's government, they were put there to serve in best interest of the people and not the other way around. Im not sure when people forgot that? or that they forgot it was important?

Ok.... I understand.

I do approach it differently (not that your way is wrong... we are just different).

I view it as, "Politics is still politics even if Covid is the impetus. If CDC can vacillate and even doctors have different viewpoints, how can I make my personal decisions no matter who is in charge? If government basically hardly every does things right and certainly at the least not efficiently, what am I to do?".

So I go into personal responsibility because I know that basically most all information is internet accessible and I simply take a decision for the direction for my life. Pray for the government but take personal responsibility.

Guidelines are jut that, guidelines, but hardly encompass every situation. An assembly line still has to be an assembly line and social distancing on an assembly line is next to impossible. So I take the necessary precautions but continue living.

 

[Father Heathen]

noun

ap·pli·ca·tion | \ ˌa-plə-ˈkā-shən \
Definition of application

1: an act of applying:
a(1): an act of putting something to use application of new techniques
(2): a use to which something is put new applications for old remedies
b: an act of administering or laying one thing on another application of paint to a house

I know what it means, turd. What I don't see is how your one word reply rationalizes your 'whataboutism'.

 

[Kenny]

I know what it means, turd. What I don't see is how your one word reply rationalizes your 'whataboutism'.

In as much as your statement seemed disjointed, I asked for application. If you don't want to answer that... well...

 

[Father Heathen]

Much to the advantage of hostile interests.

That's why we need to desperately fix this kool-ade drinking and bootlicking problem that's killing our country. If we truly want to make America great again, we have to embrace science and critical thinking.