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Right wing terrorist are the #1 threat

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This is TRUMP's APPOINTEE saying this:

White Supremacists Top Terrorist Threats Within U.S., Wolf Says

President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the agency in charge of curbing domestic terrorism told senators that White supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal threat” to the U.S. from within the country.

“White supremacist extremists, from a lethality standpoint over the last two years, particularly when you look at 2018 and 2019, are certainly the most persistent and lethal threat when we talk about domestic violent extremists,” said Chad Wolf, who has been heading the Department of Homeland Security in an acting capacity since late last year.

AN EXAMPLE. They claim they're going to respond to attacks and that the police will applaud them and let them murder people. Given what we've seen from some cops, that might be accurate.
pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies
Melchi has been recorded leading an armed pro-Trump militia, “1776 2.0” into downtown confrontations in Portland, including on 22 August. At several points in the chat he proposes violence in advance of those confrontations, and appears to confess to prior acts committed in the company of his paramilitary group. President Biden will need to go after these terrorists with the full force of the law.

In response to detailed questions about these contributions, Melchi responded with an email that falsely suggested his comments might have been photoshopped, and concluded with direct threats.


Melchi wrote: “I suggest you don’t threaten combat veterans sweetheart, might get a little uncomfortable for ya big guy!”
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
We’ve known this for a long time. I remember distinctly when Bushy Jr. said that we would fight terrorist groups wherever they may hide.
My first thought was “Great! When do the ICBMs and boots hit the ground in Mississippi to kill those white-hooded scum?”

Alas, real action has yet to be taken. :(
Imagine my surprise. o_O
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
First you should know there is a difference between APPOINTEE and NOMINEE

Appointee
- a person to whom a job or role is assigned.
Nominee - a person who is proposed or formally entered as a candidate for an office or as the recipient of a grant or award.

Wolf is a Nominee...

Second, this is not new, it is called Domestic terrorism, it has been a major threat for some time now, it has just been folks have been more worried about International terrorism. Basically they were all panicked by every single muslim they meant but did not care much about white supremacists.

And while we are alo trying to throw the police under the bus too, you might want to know that 205 of them have died, so far this year, 114 of them from Covid 19

I won't take any further part of this, I just like things to be factually correct before they go off the deep end into extreme partisan politics
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
An impression of leftish reactions to such
recurring claims.....
1) Bragging rights that rightish extremists
are more deadly than leftishk ones.
2) Being able to deflect criticism of their
own riots, arson, looting, & assaults.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
This is TRUMP's APPOINTEE saying this:

White Supremacists Top Terrorist Threats Within U.S., Wolf Says

President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the agency in charge of curbing domestic terrorism told senators that White supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal threat” to the U.S. from within the country.

“White supremacist extremists, from a lethality standpoint over the last two years, particularly when you look at 2018 and 2019, are certainly the most persistent and lethal threat when we talk about domestic violent extremists,” said Chad Wolf, who has been heading the Department of Homeland Security in an acting capacity since late last year.

AN EXAMPLE. They claim they're going to respond to attacks and that the police will applaud them and let them murder people. Given what we've seen from some cops, that might be accurate.
pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies
Melchi has been recorded leading an armed pro-Trump militia, “1776 2.0” into downtown confrontations in Portland, including on 22 August. At several points in the chat he proposes violence in advance of those confrontations, and appears to confess to prior acts committed in the company of his paramilitary group. President Biden will need to go after these terrorists with the full force of the law.

In response to detailed questions about these contributions, Melchi responded with an email that falsely suggested his comments might have been photoshopped, and concluded with direct threats.


Melchi wrote: “I suggest you don’t threaten combat veterans sweetheart, might get a little uncomfortable for ya big guy!”

So, just curious, but what did you want to discuss regarding this..? Or is this just an 'FYI'..?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
An impression of leftish reactions to such
recurring claims.....
1) Bragging rights that rightish extremists
are more deadly than leftishk ones.
2) Being able to deflect criticism of their
own riots, arson, looting, & assaults.
Just a few years LW extremists were the number 1 domestic threat. And they often don't kill anyone (property damage, sabotage, and clandestine operations are more their thing). This was until the "Riley/Obama" (or Presidential Embiggenment) effect played out with RW extremists and Trump. And they are killing people, and seem eager to hurt and kill more. And now they are the primary domestic threat.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Just a few years LW extremists were the number 1 domestic threat. And they often don't kill anyone (property damage, sabotage, and clandestine operations are more their thing). This was until the "Riley/Obama" (or Presidential Embiggenment) effect played out with RW extremists and Trump. And they are killing people, and seem eager to hurt and kill more. And now they are the primary domestic threat.
To rank the threats seems odd.
Why have #1, #2, etc?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think the shooter(s) should not be persecuted. When cops aren't persecuted for shooting citizens, citizens shouldn't be persecuted for shooting cops.
Certainly, the law cannot simply divide people into groups,
& allow that whatever one gets away with, the other can.
Also the circumstances must be considered. If a cop
shoots someone in the course of carrying out the law
(even if the law is wrong), this differs from someone
shooting another for a nefarious reason, eg, shooting
a cop because they hate cops.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
To rank the threats seems odd.
Why have #1, #2, etc?
To determine what the finances and the forces of the US government should be aiming at.
Why rank Causes of Death (C.O.D.)? - Answer: to determine if funds (billions of dollars) should be channelled into research and treatment of cancer, or smoking, or obesity, or car safety, or poison ivy, etc....

Since right-wing home grown terrorists are the #1 greatest threat to the lives and security of US citizens, we now know that the largest portion of our police and military funding/strategy/tactics/actions...should be aimed directly at their skin-headed skulls, along with their financiers.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This is TRUMP's APPOINTEE saying this:

White Supremacists Top Terrorist Threats Within U.S., Wolf Says

President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the agency in charge of curbing domestic terrorism told senators that White supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal threat” to the U.S. from within the country.

“White supremacist extremists, from a lethality standpoint over the last two years, particularly when you look at 2018 and 2019, are certainly the most persistent and lethal threat when we talk about domestic violent extremists,” said Chad Wolf, who has been heading the Department of Homeland Security in an acting capacity since late last year.

AN EXAMPLE. They claim they're going to respond to attacks and that the police will applaud them and let them murder people. Given what we've seen from some cops, that might be accurate.
pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies
Melchi has been recorded leading an armed pro-Trump militia, “1776 2.0” into downtown confrontations in Portland, including on 22 August. At several points in the chat he proposes violence in advance of those confrontations, and appears to confess to prior acts committed in the company of his paramilitary group. President Biden will need to go after these terrorists with the full force of the law.

In response to detailed questions about these contributions, Melchi responded with an email that falsely suggested his comments might have been photoshopped, and concluded with direct threats.


Melchi wrote: “I suggest you don’t threaten combat veterans sweetheart, might get a little uncomfortable for ya big guy!”

Yeah, I believe it. Although, considering the size, equipment, manpower, and firepower at the disposal of the government, along with stricter security measures in place since 9/11, the country seems on a certain footing to defend against terrorism. Terrorists are still a threat and still dangerous, but we also (for right or wrong) have the apparatus to be able to meet that threat.

What seems a larger problem are internal weaknesses within the power structure itself. That seems to be the larger threat at present, since it could undermine the government's ability to handle internal dissension and disorder.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
Certainly, the law cannot simply divide people into groups,
& allow that whatever one gets away with, the other can.
Also the circumstances must be considered. If a cop
shoots someone in the course of carrying out the law
(even if the law is wrong), this differs from someone
shooting another for a nefarious reason, eg, shooting
a cop because they hate cops.
It would be wrong for cops to get away scot free for shooting innocent people, don't you agree?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
To determine what the finances and the forces of the US government should be aiming at.
Why rank Causes of Death (C.O.D.)? - Answer: to determine if funds (billions of dollars) should be channelled into research and treatment of cancer, or smoking, or obesity, or car safety, or poison ivy, etc....

Since right-wing home grown terrorists are the #1 greatest threat to the lives and security of US citizens, we now know that the largest portion of our police and military funding/strategy/tactics/actions...should be aimed directly at their skin-headed skulls, along with their financiers.
To rank according to location on a simplistic 1 dimensional
political spectrum won't achieve the resource allocation goals
you advocate. It would make more evaluate threats posed,
& rank according to threat level & ROI.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It would be wrong for cops to get away scot free for shooting innocent people, don't you agree?
I must elaborate on your question.
There is a spectrum....
- Unforeseeable accidents
- Foreseeable accidents.
- Recklessness
- Intentional harm

The above should see escalating levels of accountability & sanction.
Moreover, the victim's being either innocent or threat affects things.
 
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