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Why are people expected to dress nicely at church?

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
That said, I do have to ask why you talk like you'd be the right person to know what Jesus did and why he did it, since you're not a Christian? Why would you even care what Jesus said if you don't do what He says? I'd really like to know this from all non-Christians... except that some of them are obviously shills.
I look forward to the day when the tares are gathered to Armageddon.
I still know more about the Bible and church history than the average Christian, and have forgotten more about them than what most Christians will ever learn.
And I because I've had to use the Bible to defend myself against Christians who come knocking and ask my why this and why that and it's always a better answer to quote scripture to support my reasons for being opposed to it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I have the feeling that the chosen and faithful are like Job... Satan knew whom to make war upon, and whom not to waste his time with. Why do people persecute someone who already failed the test? No offense meant. Going to church as a child doesn't make someone a Christian. Keeping Jesus' Commandments does. Many people who go to church never really think about what Jesus meant by anything... that is, within the framework of the true nature of Jesus. They build up theories from whole cloth, about what they want Jesus to be, not who He really is.

Non-Christians don't need a lecture on Christian love. The love of the world is a very different thing than the love of the Father who loves us only because we love Jesus and keep His commandments. The world wants love to be unconditional, IMO. But that's not what Jesus says is the truth.
Of course. How so very Christian of you ti make assumptions And judge. You talk about keeping Christ's commandments, those did include judge not and ket he who is without sin cast the first stone. Because, of course, its so mich easier to just dent people where Christian to begin with than hear someone out and their complaints and grievances about the Church and Bible (very few Christians actually do refrain from judging me and do accept I had some serious problems instead of just denying I was ever Christian to begin with.
And you quote Job as is so typical, but never is the parable of the Prodigal Son mentioned.
You want to accuse me of basically being a culture Christian who never thought about things or learned things. You condemn me as you condemn yourself (Romans 2:1).
 

Mitty

Active Member
That is thoroughly repulsive.
What is repulsive about most people in civilized countries supporting same-sex marriage, including the head of the Anglican Church?

And what was repulsive about Jesus loving one of his disciples instead of a wife (John 19:26, 21:7) and asking his followers to accept that some men do not marry because they are so born from their mothers' wombs? And afterall David said that his love with Jonathon was more wonderful than with any of his wives and concubines (2Sam 1:26), given that David was even his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:7).

And what is repulsive about the bible saying nothing about female homosexuality?

And what is repulsive about biblical morality being just man-made, given that the ten commandments etc didn't apply to Abraham et al or their ancestors?
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I never understood this. It always struck me as a bit of vanity. I don't know where this started, either. I can't imagine God cares what you are wearing, and it shouldn't matter to people what you wear as long as it's reasonable. The first Christians were poor people and slaves so I can imagine that they were a dirty bunch wearing rags. But these were Jesus' best friends.

"1 My brothers and sisters, practice your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ by not favoring one person over another. 2 For example, two men come to your worship service. One man is wearing gold rings and fine clothes; the other man, who is poor, is wearing shabby clothes. 3 Suppose you give special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say to him, “Please have a seat.” But you say to the poor man, “Stand over there,” or “Sit on the floor at my feet.” 4 Aren’t you discriminating against people and using a corrupt standard to make judgments?

5 Listen, my dear brothers and sisters! Didn’t God choose poor people in the world to become rich in faith and to receive the kingdom that he promised to those who love him? 6 Yet, you show no respect to poor people. Don’t rich people oppress you and drag you into court? 7 Don’t they curse the good name of Jesus, the name that was used to bless you?" - 2 James 2:1-7
Maybe it comes from that sunday is church day and people wanted to dress a bit better to church then their normal workers clothes, and that tradition has stuck until today?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
What is repulsive about most people in civilized countries supporting same-sex marriage, including the head of the Anglican Church?

And what was repulsive about Jesus loving one of his disciples instead of a wife (John 19:26, 21:7) and asking his followers to accept that some men do not marry because they are so born from their mothers' wombs? And afterall David said that his love with Jonathon was more wonderful than with any of his wives and concubines (2Sam 1:26), given that David was even his god's begotten son (Psalm 2:7).

And what is repulsive about the bible saying nothing about female homosexuality?

And what is repulsive about biblical morality being just man-made, given that the ten commandments etc didn't apply to Abraham et al or their ancestors?
And we have Joseph, a Bronze Age metrosexual known for pencil his eyes, curling his hair, lifting his heel, and a cloak of diverse colors that is similar in description to the one worn by David's daughter. God didn't seem to mind that going on.
Or that Jesus healed the legionnaire's special friend who was probably his gay lover.
Paul, however, definitely had a problem with homosexuals.
 

Mitty

Active Member
Paul, however, definitely had a problem with homosexuals.
Which is why Liberace tried to deny his obvious homosexuality too even after his death, and presumably why Paul remained celibate after unsuccessfully trying to get rid of the "thorn in the flesh" from Satan (2Cor 12:7-8). And why Kenneth Williams had difficulty accepting his sexual orientation also, whereas Charles Hawtrey was comfortable with his sexual orientation. Carry On Camping - Wikipedia
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I never understood this. It always struck me as a bit of vanity. I don't know where this started, either. I can't imagine God cares what you are wearing, and it shouldn't matter to people what you wear as long as it's reasonable. The first Christians were poor people and slaves so I can imagine that they were a dirty bunch wearing rags. But these were Jesus' best friends.

"1 My brothers and sisters, practice your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ by not favoring one person over another. 2 For example, two men come to your worship service. One man is wearing gold rings and fine clothes; the other man, who is poor, is wearing shabby clothes. 3 Suppose you give special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say to him, “Please have a seat.” But you say to the poor man, “Stand over there,” or “Sit on the floor at my feet.” 4 Aren’t you discriminating against people and using a corrupt standard to make judgments?

5 Listen, my dear brothers and sisters! Didn’t God choose poor people in the world to become rich in faith and to receive the kingdom that he promised to those who love him? 6 Yet, you show no respect to poor people. Don’t rich people oppress you and drag you into court? 7 Don’t they curse the good name of Jesus, the name that was used to bless you?" - 2 James 2:1-7
I always wondered why nuns bathed while basically clothed in full-length, flimsy cotton robes. I heard it said that one responded that, while nobody could see her, there was always "God, up there -- he can see."

Which struck me as extremely odd, since if assume that God can peek down through 3 stories of the convent, into her bathroom, but then is stymied by her cotton robe --- well, no wonder I think most of it makes little sense. :rolleyes:
 

Prim969

Member
Obviously the world would be very different, but Christians are called to live as citizens of Heaven first.
Yes I’m sure the world be much different I’d probably be a pretty ballerina dancing amongst Ali Barbers harem and you would probably be reading the Koran especially if the Orthodox and Catholic Church faithful had followed such advice as yours Yes that’s true the church has always believed that our citizenship is heaven. But while upon this earth we have responsibilities to protect our Christian heritage as our Lord did say ( the kingdom of God has come unto you ) Saint Frankenstein the poor you have with you always even if Christendom gave all her possessions away that would not change the status of the poor for very long only that we all be much poor.
 

Prim969

Member
I always wondered why nuns bathed while basically clothed in full-length, flimsy cotton robes. I heard it said that one responded that, while nobody could see her, there was always "God, up there -- he can see."

Which struck me as extremely odd, since if assume that God can peek down through 3 stories of the convent, into her bathroom, but then is stymied by her cotton robe --- well, no wonder I think most of it makes little sense. :rolleyes:
Makes perfect sense God is perfect so he can admire the naked beauty of his creation anytime he likes.
 
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